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451PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/14/2022, 5:08 pm

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452PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/19/2022, 1:07 pm

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CDC could add COVID vaccine requirement for children to immunization list with 'no clinical data': Dr. Makary

The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is expected to announce the decision later this week

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cdc-could-add-covid-vaccine-requirement-children-immunization-list-no-clinical-data-dr-makary

The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) is expected to announce later this week that the COVID-19 vaccine will be added to the list of required childhood vaccines.

Johns Hopkins School of Medicine professor Dr. Marty Makary told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" Tuesday it will be the first vaccine added "with no clinical data."

"There has never been a vaccine added to the child immunization schedule without solid clinical evidence that it reduces disease significantly in the community," he said.

Makary added that the CDC only has data from eight mice on the effects of the Omicron vaccine in young people. White House Coronavirus Response coordinator Dr. Ashish Jha has seen the data on the vaccines' effects, according to Makary, but it is not publicly available.

"What are they hiding? Why can’t we see this information?" he questioned on "Tucker Carlson Tonight."

Makary said those who wanted to see the data were "basically told stop asking questions."

If the CDC's ACIP puts the COVID-19 vaccine on the child immunization schedule, children could be required to get it in order to attend school.

The Johns Hopkins professor told host Tucker Carlson, 1 in 5,000 vaccine doses result in a "severe adverse event."

Makary highlighted a case study in Israel where 283 people took the COVID vaccine and ended up getting myocarditis; one died and two were in the ICU.

"If thousands of people are going to get myocarditis from this indiscriminate vaccination in young and healthy people, we’re going to see some unintended harm. and my concern is that some schools may blindly accept this," he said.

Makary added that it will be up to states to implement the policy if the ACIP passes the vaccine requirement.

"That’s where I think parents have a right to say let’s see some clinical data before we force this as a requirement for school," he stressed.

453PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/20/2022, 7:37 am

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454PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/26/2022, 5:14 pm

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U.S. student test results show toll of pandemic lockdowns on learning

https://news.yahoo.com/u-student-test-results-document-143219286.html

455PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/27/2022, 8:09 am

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456PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/27/2022, 8:58 am

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U.S. student test results show toll of pandemic lockdowns on learning

https://news.yahoo.com/u-student-test-results-document-143219286.html

457PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/27/2022, 9:44 am

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458PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/28/2022, 11:06 am

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459PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/29/2022, 8:41 pm

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Lol... yet who is ignoring the inconvenient facts?

That ain't science fucktard.

460PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 10/29/2022, 11:12 pm

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Inconvenient facts? Like your long time drug addiction, dickwad? clown

461PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 11/1/2022, 8:48 am

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NOW they want a truce a week before the election.

Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/let-e2-80-99s-declare-a-pandemic-amnesty/ar-AA13zuTO

The Atlantic: In April 2020, with nothing else to do, my family took an enormous number of hikes. We all wore cloth masks that I had made myself. We had a family hand signal, which the person in the front would use if someone was approaching on the trail and we needed to put on our masks.  Once, when another child got too close to my then-4-year-old son on a bridge, he yelled at her “SOCIAL DISTANCING!”

These precautions were totally misguided. In April 2020, no one got the coronavirus from passing someone else hiking. Outdoor transmission was vanishingly rare. Our cloth masks made out of old bandanas wouldn’t have done anything, anyway. But the thing is: We didn’t know.

I have been reflecting on this lack of knowledge thanks to a class I’m co-teaching at Brown University on COVID. We’ve spent several lectures reliving the first year of the pandemic, discussing the many important choices we had to make under conditions of tremendous uncertainty.

Some of these choices turned out better than others. To take an example close to my own work, there is an emerging (if not universal) consensus that schools in the U.S. were closed for too long: The health risks of in-school spread were relatively low, whereas the costs to students’ well-being and educational progress were high. The latest figures on learning loss are alarming.  But in spring and summer 2020, we had only glimmers of information. Reasonable people—people who cared about children and teachers—advocated on both sides of the reopening debate.

[Derek Thompson: School closures were a failed policy]

Another example: When the vaccines came out, we lacked definitive data on the relative efficacies of the Johnson & Johnson shot versus the mRNA options from Pfizer and Moderna. The mRNA vaccines have won out. But at the time, many people in public health were either neutral or expressed a J&J preference. This misstep wasn’t nefarious. It was the result of uncertainty.

Obviously some people intended to mislead and made wildly irresponsible claims. Remember when the public-health community had to spend a lot of time and resources urging Americans not to inject themselves with bleach? That was bad. Misinformation was, and remains, a huge problem. But most errors were made by people who were working in earnest for the good of society.

Given the amount of uncertainty, almost every position was taken on every topic. And on every topic, someone was eventually proved right, and someone else was proved wrong. In some instances, the right people were right for the wrong reasons. In other instances, they had a prescient understanding of the available information.

The people who got it right, for whatever reason, may want to gloat. Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. All of this gloating and defensiveness continues to gobble up a lot of social energy and to drive the culture wars, especially on the internet. These discussions are heated, unpleasant and, ultimately, unproductive. In the face of so much uncertainty, getting something right had a hefty element of luck. And, similarly, getting something wrong wasn’t a moral failing. Treating pandemic choices as a scorecard on which some people racked up more points than others is preventing us from moving forward.

[Read: You were right about COVID, and then you weren’t]

We have to put these fights aside and declare a pandemic amnesty. We can leave out the willful purveyors of actual misinformation while forgiving the hard calls that people had no choice but to make with imperfect knowledge. Los Angeles County closed its beaches in summer 2020. Ex post facto, this makes no more sense than my family’s masked hiking trips. But we need to learn from our mistakes and then let them go. We need to forgive the attacks, too. Because I thought schools should reopen and argued that kids as a group were not at high risk, I was called a “teacher killer” and a “génocidaire.” It wasn’t pleasant, but feelings were high. And I certainly don’t need to dissect and rehash that time for the rest of my days.

Moving on is crucial now, because the pandemic created many problems that we still need to solve.

Student test scores have shown historic declines, more so in math than in reading, and more so for students who were disadvantaged at the start. We need to collect data, experiment, and invest. Is high-dosage tutoring more or less cost-effective than extended school years? Why have some states recovered faster than others? We should focus on questions like these, because answering them is how we will help our children recover.

Many people have neglected their health care over the past several years. Notably, routine vaccination rates for children (for measles, pertussis, etc.) are way down. Rather than debating the role that messaging about COVID vaccines had in this decline, we need to put all our energy into bringing these rates back up. Pediatricians and public-health officials will need to work together on community outreach, and politicians will need to consider school mandates.

The standard saying is that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. But dwelling on the mistakes of history can lead to a repetitive doom loop as well. Let’s acknowledge that we made complicated choices in the face of deep uncertainty, and then try to work together to build back and move forward.

462PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 11/1/2022, 11:21 am

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463PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 11/25/2022, 5:25 am

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https://www.msn.com/en-US/health/-news/vaccinated-people-now-make-up-a-majority-of-covid-deaths/ar-AA14sw71

https://insidemedicine.bulletin.com/are-repeat-coronavirus-infections-really-more-dangerous-than-the-first-one/

Are repeat coronavirus infections really more dangerous than the first one?

No, but a recent study has been misinterpreted by some as saying that.

464PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 11/26/2022, 2:33 pm

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I see that peckerhead has taken to hiding sources under the msn banner.

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465PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 11/26/2022, 5:42 pm

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The Washington Post and Inside Medicine which directly links to the studies and even a foia disclosure by the CDC. It must suck to be a brain dead old biddy..

466PANDUMBIC - Page 19 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 11/27/2022, 3:20 pm

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So tell us how much it sucks to be a card cheating, drug abusing, idiot form Michigan, Little Richard. Rolling Eyes

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