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Bernie is a Snowflake

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1Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Bernie is a Snowflake 4/15/2019, 8:03 am

Sal

Sal

Bernie Sanders Attacks ThinkProgress, a Liberal Blog Launched by His Campaign Manager

https://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-goes-after-thinkprogress-liberal-blog-launched-by-his-campaign-manager/

2Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/15/2019, 9:14 am

zsomething



When ya go too far left, the "purity" gets so obsessive that the folks there turn on each other really easily. One imperfection (and there's always an imperfection in dealing with humans) and they'll completely dismiss each other. That's one reason I never like dealing with 'em... and one reason Bernie's so toxic. He taps into that group. His hardcore cultists decided he's the "pure one" and they'll do their best to slaughter anyone who threatens his ascension. And they'll even turn on each other in a competition to see who's the purest of the all.

That's really all that Bernie brings to the table -- in-fighting and disunity. Even his own group fractures into sects. And that's just one of the reasons I wish something would get him out of this race before he can do much more damage. The longer he's in, the more toxins get released among Democrats. He did it last time, and he's doing it again. The fucker is not a positive force. He's basically just the lefty version of Trump's personality... it's just harder to see because what he's saying is "nice" instead of hateful. Bernie's intentions are better... but his personal drawbacks are in the same ballpark; narcissism, prideful ignorance, short temper, vainglory.

3Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/15/2019, 11:00 am

RealLindaL



All appears too true, I'm afraid, and I, too, keep hoping for some major slip-up or revelation to pull him out of contention. This election is far too crucial to have Bernie and friends screwing it up!!!

OT: Sorry to hear about the storms in MS, z. You and yours all OK, I hope? Yeah, I know it's a big state. Still, had you on my mind.

4Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/15/2019, 11:06 am

zsomething



RealLindaL wrote:All appears too true, I'm afraid, and I, too, keep hoping for some major slip-up or revelation to pull him out of contention.   This election is far too crucial to have Bernie and friends screwing it up!!!  

OT:  Sorry to hear about the storms in MS, z.  You and yours all OK, I hope?   Yeah, I know it's a big state.  Still, had you on my mind.


Thanks! Yeah, everything's fine. A few trees got knocked down in town, but mostly things are okay at my end. I had a lot of thunder and rain but that's about all, fortunately. There were a few small dead limbs down in the driveway, but nothing I couldn't toss out of the way easily enough. Smile A friend's mom's yard sale got ruined, but that's as close as anyone I know got to any kind of tragedy.

5Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/15/2019, 1:05 pm

Telstar

Telstar

zsomething wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:All appears too true, I'm afraid, and I, too, keep hoping for some major slip-up or revelation to pull him out of contention.   This election is far too crucial to have Bernie and friends screwing it up!!!  

OT:  Sorry to hear about the storms in MS, z.  You and yours all OK, I hope?   Yeah, I know it's a big state.  Still, had you on my mind.


Thanks!   Yeah, everything's fine.  A few trees got knocked down in town, but mostly things are okay at my end.  I had a lot of thunder and rain but that's about all, fortunately.   There were a few small dead limbs down in the driveway, but nothing I couldn't toss out of the way easily enough. Smile  A friend's mom's yard sale got ruined, but that's as close as anyone I know got to  any kind of tragedy.





6Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/15/2019, 4:49 pm

RealLindaL



zsomething wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:All appears too true, I'm afraid, and I, too, keep hoping for some major slip-up or revelation to pull him out of contention.   This election is far too crucial to have Bernie and friends screwing it up!!!  

OT:  Sorry to hear about the storms in MS, z.  You and yours all OK, I hope?   Yeah, I know it's a big state.  Still, had you on my mind.


Thanks!   Yeah, everything's fine.  A few trees got knocked down in town, but mostly things are okay at my end.  I had a lot of thunder and rain but that's about all, fortunately.   There were a few small dead limbs down in the driveway, but nothing I couldn't toss out of the way easily enough. Smile  A friend's mom's yard sale got ruined, but that's as close as anyone I know got to  any kind of tragedy.

Well heck, a ruined yard sale's tragedy enough, but I'm glad to hear it wasn't any worse, z.   Thanks for the recap.  Fingers crossed for all of us for the duration of spring's unstable weather.

7Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/16/2019, 5:11 am

Telstar

Telstar

This is just weird but I like it when he tells them to get Donald Trump and ask him how much he pays in taxes. I think he came off pretty well and the Fox crowd seemed to support him. Go Bernie, for now anyway.






8Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/16/2019, 8:42 am

zsomething



Telstar wrote:This is just weird but I like it when he tells them to get Donald Trump and ask him how much he pays in taxes. I think he came off pretty well and the Fox crowd seemed to support him. Go Bernie, for now anyway.


FOX has always been supportive of Bernie. That's because they're trying to pick their opponent, and they want the weakest one. They've got a stockpile of weapons-grade opposition material on Bernie ready to unload if we're foolish enough to make this clod our nominee and they're hoping they get to use it. He's the most easily-beatable candidate the Dems have, especially since Trump's ties to the Russians is one of his weakest points. Bernie has so many entanglements with Russia that it'd completely negate that and help Trump sail right in. Until the Dems actually nominate this fool, you'll rarely hear FOX say anything negative about him. That should make you suspicious...

9Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/16/2019, 2:15 pm

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

It's easy to imagine Bernie in campaign mode because that's what he does but I have trouble envisioning him behind the desk in the Oval Office. Can't quite see who might be in his cabinet, etc.

We watched him on Fox yesterday and didn't think he tanked but also didn't think he really answered many of the questions. Like most professional politicians, he managed to get his talking points out no matter what the original question was.

I hope some other dem candidate will capture the imagination of people who are currently following him.

10Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/16/2019, 6:25 pm

Telstar

Telstar

zsomething wrote:
Telstar wrote:This is just weird but I like it when he tells them to get Donald Trump and ask him how much he pays in taxes. I think he came off pretty well and the Fox crowd seemed to support him. Go Bernie, for now anyway.


FOX has always been supportive of Bernie.  That's because they're trying to pick their opponent, and they want the weakest one.   They've got a stockpile of weapons-grade opposition material on Bernie ready to unload if we're foolish enough to make this clod our nominee and they're hoping they get to use it.  He's the most easily-beatable candidate the Dems have, especially since Trump's ties to the Russians is one of his weakest points.  Bernie has so many entanglements with Russia that it'd completely negate that and help Trump sail right in.   Until the Dems actually nominate this fool, you'll rarely hear FOX say anything negative about him.  That should make you suspicious...



Hey I'm not saying I'm a Berniebot yet, I'm still with Harris so far, just saying it was nice to see a lefty go on Fox Snews and treat their blond bimbo conservative co-host as if she is a ...blond bimbo conservative co-host. Was hoping they cried for Bernie to put down the whip and chair because even they know that Fox News bites. I hope more lefties take on this crisp new attitude on Fox. Maybe Fox is just trying to ease the exodus of their sponsors due to frequent boycotts. It's just nice to see someone on Fox News pissing all over their hosts and the Russian plant in our house who considers it a friend. Just saying.

11Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/18/2019, 10:05 am

zsomething



I went round and round with some Bernie cultists yesterday and have determined that some-a them chillun is completely insane. And so naive that they're likely excited about the Easter Bunny right now. He is, after all, a socialist (free eggs!).

First, the Bernie cult is praising Bernie's FOX News town hall... never questioning why it was offered to him in the first place. Now, really, think about it: knowing what we all know about FOX News, are they gonna do anything that might help a Democrat unless it benefits Trump even more? Why would FOX give Bernie free airtime? Take a minute and think about it. I'll wait.



Did you come up with "Because they're trying to pick Trump's opponent and think Bernie would be the easiest to beat?" Me too. They want to help Bernie be the front-runner. O' course, the Bernie cult is claiming, "Ha ha, Bernie fooled them and kicked ass!" Well, of course he did. Would you bring your chosen-opponent on your propaganda channel and then just crush him? FOX is evil, and they're crafty; ya don't think they didn't pack that audience with Bernie-friendly folks to make him look good? They want him to look good. Because they want us to fuck up and make him our nominee. Then, and only then, will they start really being hostile to Bernie. Right now it's just enough token hostility to make the ruse look good.

Ever wonder why things like thisand this and this exist and they aren't being aired on FOX News all the time? It's because FOX News doesn't want to really damage Bernie... YET. They want to wait until we're locked in and married to this guy as our nominee, and then you'll see those clips in heavy rotation every damn day, and worse ones that they haven't even let leak to the public yet, too. You'll be seeing them like it's 1978 and you've got your radio on and those clips are "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees.

Until we pick Bernie, though, you're not gonna hear much worse than the occasional "Crazy Bernie" from Hannity, just to make it look good. They want Bernie to kick ass in the primary. They even want to make it look like Bernie got one over on 'em, so his supporters will become even more convinced that he's the golden child.

If you mention this to them, they claim it's a "conspiracy theory," but... what other logical reason would FOX, a.k.a. Trump's state-run propaganda organ, have for giving Bernie free airtime? If they'd wanted to embarrass him, they'd have given him an audience that would be hostile.

Suddenly, because they think it's making Bernie look good, Bernie's cult is willing to assume that FOX played fair. And that they're soooooo stupid that they let Bernie hoodwink 'em by "winning them over."

Now, they're also crowing that the ratings for Bernie's town hall were ammmaaaaaazzzzing. In actuality, ratings were down for that time slot from the usual by about a million viewers, but, whatever... the Bernie cult is just absolutely certain that Bernie got their message through, in the lion's den.

Again, I hate to be pesky and logical and all that inconvenient shit, but... once again, really think about this for a minute.

Isn't it likely that the ratings are as good as they are because Bernie has a pretty sizeable following who won't miss anything he does? So they were watching FOX that night? That the choir showed up to be preached to, and not a bunch of new converts came seeking Bernie's enlightenment?

Nope, they really think FOX viewers were watching Bernie. Again, think about it: if you watch, say, MSNBC, which leans left, and they decided to give Trump an hour of airtime to do one of his crazy rants... are you gonna sit there and watch it just because MSNBC's the channel you usually watch? Or are you gonna say, "Oh god, it's that idiot asshole!" and change the channel, see if you can find a Gomer Pyle re-run or something to watch instead? Do you really think that FOX viewers would subject themselves to Bernie just because he was on FOX? Maybe a few did because their remote was lost under the drift of Cheeto bags, but isn't it a lot more likely that they went elsewhere until Hannity came on?

I know Bernie's followers love his message (and it's not a bad message -- I just don't think he has any capacity whatsoever to make good on any of it), but it's pure hippie fantasy to think that all hardcore FOX viewers have to do is hear him and suddenly they'll turn into liberal socialists writing their congressmen and saying "Please tax me more so minority kids can go to college for free!"

Hippies love this idea that they're only rejected because people don't know what their ideas are, and if only they were listened to for ten minutes or so that people would embrace them, even idolize them. Remember in Billy Jack, where the kids from the Freedom School win over the conservative townspeople by singing a few folk songs and doing some silly skits? Soon all the people who hated 'em are going, "What a bunch of great kids, what a great school, how could we have been so wrong? Right on! And bring the boys home from 'Nam!" It's total fantasy.

Anyway, I went round and round about this (mostly because they were attacking every other Democratic candidate who could be a threat to Bernie's coronation, and it was getting too obnoxious to take), and other lunacy started coming out.

One guy actually said that highways were a capitalist scheme to make people buy cars and increase pollution, rather than ride buses.

Not sure what gizmo thought those buses were gonna get around on if we didn't have those wicked evil highways, but... there I go, trying to be logical and sensible again.

And today Bernie's attacking The Center For American Progress for not favoring him enough over other Democratic candidates. Which is kinda funny since Bernie's not even a Democrat until it suits his own purposes to slum with us, but, there ya go.

Dude's a divisive force, weakening us. Trump and his backers know it, and that's why they're playing him up. People can complain that I'm too tough on poor fuckin' Bernie, but... this is why. We have to beat Trump, just to shut down the white-power nationalist scumbags he's emboldening if nothing else. Bernie's in the way of that, rather than helping with it. So, there's no way I'll let up on him... until and unless we're stupid enough to make him our nominee. Then I'll vote for him if I have to. Still won't like him, but, I'll root for anybody who's against Trump. It'll be futile, though. They've got so much ammo to use against Bernie that they're even willing to promote him. Even the Koch brothers have bought pro-Bernie ads, and the Russians have tried helping him, hoping to make him our nominee so they can then tear into him.

But you try to tell the Bernie cult that and they'll bring the knives out for ya. Rolling Eyes They aren't gonna listen. Dupes...





12Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/18/2019, 11:13 am

Telstar

Telstar

zsomething wrote:I went round and round with some Bernie cultists yesterday and have determined that some-a them chillun is completely insane.   And so naive that they're likely excited about the Easter Bunny right now.  He is, after all, a socialist  (free eggs!).

First, the Bernie cult is praising Bernie's FOX News town hall... never questioning why it was offered to him in the first place.   Now, really, think about it:  knowing what we all know about FOX News, are they gonna do anything that might help a Democrat unless it benefits Trump even more?   Why would FOX give Bernie free airtime?  Take a minute and think about it.  I'll wait.



Did you come up with "Because they're trying to pick Trump's opponent and think Bernie would be the easiest to beat?"   Me too.  They want to help Bernie be the front-runner.   O' course, the Bernie cult is claiming, "Ha ha, Bernie fooled them and kicked ass!"   Well, of course he did.  Would you bring your chosen-opponent on your propaganda channel and then just crush him?  FOX is evil, and they're crafty;  ya don't think they didn't pack that audience with Bernie-friendly folks to make him look good?  They want him to look good.   Because they want us to fuck up and make him our nominee.   Then, and only then, will they start really being hostile to Bernie.  Right now it's just enough token hostility to make the ruse look good.  

Ever wonder why things like thisand this and this exist and they aren't being aired on FOX News all the time?   It's because FOX News doesn't want to really damage Bernie... YET.   They want to wait until we're locked in and married to this guy as our nominee, and then you'll see those clips in heavy rotation every damn day, and worse ones that they haven't even let leak to the public yet, too.  You'll be seeing them like it's 1978 and you've got your radio on and those clips are "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees.  

Until we pick Bernie, though, you're not gonna hear much worse than the occasional "Crazy Bernie" from Hannity,  just to make it look good.   They want Bernie to kick ass in the primary.  They even want to make it look like Bernie got one over on 'em, so his supporters will become even more convinced that he's the golden child.

If you mention this to them, they claim it's a "conspiracy theory," but... what other logical reason would FOX, a.k.a. Trump's state-run propaganda organ, have for giving Bernie free airtime?   If they'd wanted to embarrass him, they'd have given him an audience that would be hostile.  

Suddenly, because they think it's making Bernie look good, Bernie's cult is willing to assume that FOX played fair.   And that they're soooooo stupid that they let Bernie hoodwink 'em by "winning them over."

Now, they're also crowing that the ratings for Bernie's town hall were ammmaaaaaazzzzing.   In actuality, ratings were down for that time slot from the usual by about a million viewers, but, whatever... the Bernie cult is just absolutely certain that Bernie got their message through, in the lion's den.

Again, I hate to be pesky and logical and all that inconvenient shit, but... once again, really think about this for a minute.

Isn't it likely that the ratings are as good as they are because Bernie has a pretty sizeable following who won't miss anything he does?   So they were watching FOX that night?  That the choir showed up to be preached to, and not a bunch of new converts came seeking Bernie's enlightenment?

Nope, they really think FOX viewers were watching Bernie.  Again, think about it:  if you watch, say, MSNBC, which leans left, and they decided to give Trump an hour of airtime to do one of his crazy rants... are you gonna sit there and watch it just because MSNBC's the channel you usually watch?    Or are you gonna say, "Oh god, it's that idiot asshole!" and change the channel, see if you can find a Gomer Pyle re-run or something to watch instead?   Do you really think that FOX viewers would subject themselves to Bernie just because he was on FOX?   Maybe a few did because their remote was lost under the drift of Cheeto bags, but isn't it a lot more likely that they went elsewhere until Hannity came on?

I know Bernie's followers love his message (and it's not a bad message -- I just don't think he has any capacity whatsoever to make good on any of it), but it's pure hippie fantasy to think that all hardcore FOX viewers have to do is hear him and suddenly they'll turn into liberal socialists writing their congressmen and saying "Please tax me more so minority kids can go to college for free!"  

Hippies love this idea that they're only rejected because people don't know what their ideas are, and if only they were listened to for ten minutes or so that people would embrace them, even idolize them.  Remember in Billy Jack, where the kids from the Freedom School win over the conservative townspeople by singing a few folk songs and doing some silly skits?   Soon all the people who hated 'em are going, "What a bunch of great kids, what a great school, how could we have been so wrong?  Right on!  And bring the boys home from 'Nam!"  It's total fantasy.  

Anyway, I went round and round about this (mostly because they were attacking every other Democratic candidate who could be a threat to Bernie's coronation,  and it was getting too obnoxious to take), and other lunacy started coming out.

One guy actually said that highways were a capitalist scheme to make people buy cars and increase pollution, rather than ride buses.

Not sure what gizmo thought those buses were gonna get around on if we didn't have those wicked evil highways, but... there I go, trying to be logical and sensible again.

And today Bernie's attacking The Center For American Progress for not favoring him enough over other Democratic candidates.  Which is kinda funny since Bernie's not even a Democrat until it suits his own purposes to slum with us, but, there ya go.  

Dude's a divisive force, weakening us.   Trump and his backers know it, and that's why they're playing him up.   People can complain that I'm too tough on poor fuckin' Bernie, but... this is why.   We have to beat Trump, just to shut down the white-power nationalist scumbags he's emboldening if nothing else.   Bernie's in the way of that, rather than helping with it.  So, there's no way I'll let up on him... until and unless we're stupid enough to make him our nominee.  Then I'll vote for him if I have to.  Still won't like him, but, I'll root for anybody who's against Trump.  It'll be futile, though.  They've got so much ammo to use against Bernie that they're even willing to promote him.  Even the Koch brothers have bought pro-Bernie ads, and the Russians have tried helping him, hoping to make him our nominee so they can then tear into him.

But you try to tell the Bernie cult that and they'll bring the knives out for ya.   Rolling Eyes  They aren't gonna listen.  Dupes...









Sounds good to me. Twisted Evil

13Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/18/2019, 12:06 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Zsomething, I think you've been conditioned to accept the status quo, which is one reason you view Bernie's proposals as radical. They're not, and he's been an elected official long enough to know how the process works. He won't be proposing anything without funding. He has called for a 52% tax on incomes above $250,000 and a reinstatement of the estate tax. That doesn't sound out of the question to me, nor does medicare for all. It's been 40 years since Reagan...and every time a Republican is in office, the economy has sucked. We need a candidate who really will push back against what has become the new status quo, not by half-measures but through a reversal of regressive policies that are hurting the middle class and the poor.

And, Sal, the washington free beacon is not a reliable source.



14Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/18/2019, 12:59 pm

zsomething



Floridatexan wrote:
Zsomething, I think you've been conditioned to accept the status quo, which is one reason you view Bernie's proposals as radical.  They're not, and he's been an elected official long enough to know how the process works.  He won't be proposing anything without funding.  He has called for a 52% tax on incomes above $250,000 and a reinstatement of the estate tax.  That doesn't sound out of the question to me, nor does medicare for all.  It's been 40 years since Reagan...and every time a Republican is in office, the economy has sucked.  We need a candidate who really will push back against what has become the new status quo, not by half-measures but through a reversal of regressive policies that are hurting the middle class and the poor.  

And, Sal, the washington free beacon is not a reliable source.  

 


Nope, I'm not "conditioned to accept the status quo." Nor do I think his proposals are necessarily unworkable... I just think that he wouldn't be able to work them in a million years. Bernie doesn't have tools to get much done. He just says the same things over and over like a See 'n' Say, and when pushed for actual plans they're always some ridiculous magical-mojo shit rather than details. The man has a long history of doing nothing. He's a horrible consensus-builder and his biggest accomplishments in the Senate have been getting post-offices named. He has nice ideas, which some other candidate with actual plans (such as Elizabeth Warren, among others) may be able to get some movement on... but Bernie is a nothing. That's not "status quo," that's just brutal examination of facts. He's an awful candidate. If we nominate him, WE. WILL. LOSE. Mark it.

15Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/18/2019, 2:26 pm

gatorfan



Floridatexan wrote:
 

And, Sal, the washington free beacon is not a reliable source.  

 


Yeah, unlike YOUR oft-quoted Daily Kos that is actually a blog, right? Too funny....

16Bernie is a Snowflake Empty Re: Bernie is a Snowflake 4/19/2019, 1:49 am

RealLindaL



zsomething wrote:If we nominate him, WE.  WILL.  LOSE.   Mark it.

I'm terribly afraid that you're 100% right, zs. And yes - mark his words, folks. Bernie will be a disaster, giving us another four years of the absolutely hideous human (is he even??) we currently have in the Oval Office.

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