Why is gas in Pensacola 1.90 when it is 1.70 in most of the country

I think they figure they can blame Obama in SEC country.

Taxes are a big part of it.

http://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Statistics/Gasoline-Tax-Map.pdf

Taxes are only a small part of the answer and cannot explain why Alabama has gas prices twenty cents over Illinois. There is a logical answer I have not disclosed, and it is important that people start asking questions. For the last thirty years the inverse has been true. Who on this forum will get the answer, and therein lies the answer to American energy independence. I will await for the cleverest of our forum members to get the answer. There is no entirely right answer, but there is a mostly right answer which has not been given and is not a choice in the poll.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/US


Gas is actually cheaper on average in Alabama than it is in Illinois.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/US

$1.81 in AL versus $1.94 in IL:  A difference of $0.13.


Gas taxes are higher in Illinois than in Alabama.

http://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Statistics/StateMotorFuel-OnePagers-October-2015.pdf

$0.52 in IL versus $0.39 in AL:  Coincidentally, a difference of $0.13.



I think I'll stick with my original answer.

I can only speak of the last two months. I clearly said the inverse has been true for thirty years. You still have not got the answer. Why for sixty days has gas in Illinois been cheaper than Alabama and Florida? Illinois taxes are only part of the tax story. Local counties can add significant gas taxes and they do.

I will help with some redirection. When oil prices drop almost 80 bucks a barrel on the international market, why have gas prices been slow to drop in America. Historically, we have had much cheaper gas than most advanced western nations, but why has the pump price not reflected this huge drop in the price of oil? Why does a place like Pensacola who could actually have quantities of refined gasoline being delivered by ship from other countries at significant price drops from other American cities which do not have a port not happened?

2seaoat wrote:Historically, we have had much cheaper gas than most advanced western nations, but why has the pump price not reflected this huge drop in the price of oil?  

Because the ratio between the price of oil and the price of products produced by oil is not 1:1. People day trade, short sale, buy options, futures, ETF's, etc. in oil as a commodity. In the world of retail, price is much more sticky.

I think with the other leg of the Keystone pipeline being rejected, the midwest refineries now have a choke hold on the oil producers which pump most of their product in the first leg of the pipeline which goes to Illinois. Big oil can play games with the tankers and refineries by adding cost to the transmission from the well heads in the middle east......no such luck when the region is full of high efficiency vehicles. Downtown Chicago has every sixth vehicle a prius. The majority of cabs are prius. So big oil figures lets drive the price so low that people in the midwest who have historically had the highest gas pump prices will make alternative choices on vehicle purchases. They even this out by keeping the price high in other states with lots of pick up trucks and few energy efficient vehicles. The pick up trucks are happy as pigs in chit with below two dollars and the prius owners are thinking about other vehicles when you have a buck sixty nine gas........this is so obvious. Thirty years with the exact opposite ratios and boom.....Pensacola is paying more than Illinois.....its not right, but who is going to stop them.

2seaoat wrote:I think they figure they can blame Obama in SEC country.

That is not even close to the price range. Why not post the truth?
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/

Not one of the radical Progressives here come close, aside from taxes, to what causes the difference.

Anyone wish to venture a guess?

Sorry Mr. Markle that is the price. I paid at the pump three weeks ago and it was cheaper in Illinois, and I paid 1/69 in Effingham Illinois three days ago. Saw that price in Il and KY......got to Alabama 1.90 Florida 1.90 It has always been just the opposite. Sorry, I do not need to lie. I fifty years I have NEVER bought gas in Illinois for less than what I bought it in Florida or Alabama. NEVER.

So you can post whatever source you want, I will later tonight use the phone to capture an image of a gas receipt......and then call me a liar. As usual you are lost.

If you remember Bob's post about a dispute while driving with somebody he posted the low prices and that was at least three weeks ago. These prices have been happening since the pipeline was rejected......happenstance.....maybe, but why after fifty years do gas price flip like this?

2seaoat wrote:I think with the other leg of the Keystone pipeline being rejected, the midwest refineries now have a choke hold on the oil producers which pump most of their product in the first leg of the pipeline which goes to Illinois.  Big oil can play games with the tankers and refineries by adding cost to the transmission from the well heads in the middle east......no such luck when the region is full of high efficiency vehicles.  Downtown Chicago has every sixth vehicle a prius.  The majority of cabs are prius.  So big oil figures lets drive the price so low that people in the midwest who have historically had the highest gas pump prices will make alternative choices on vehicle purchases.   They even this out by keeping the price high in other states with lots of pick up trucks and few energy efficient vehicles.   The pick up trucks are happy as pigs in chit with below two dollars and the prius owners are thinking about other vehicles when you have a buck sixty nine gas........this is so obvious.   Thirty years with the exact opposite ratios and boom.....Pensacola is paying more than Illinois.....its not right, but who is going to stop them.

Average Price today in Pensacola:
Pensacola, FL Regular Gas Price
Average: $2.02 Lowest: $1.90 Highest: $2.33

Average Price in Chicago:
Chicago, IL Regular Gas Price
Average: $2.44 Lowest: $1.89 Highest: $3.20

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/

2seaoat wrote:Sorry Mr. Markle that is the price.  I paid at the pump three weeks ago and it was cheaper in Illinois, and I paid 1/69 in Effingham Illinois three days ago.   Saw that price in Il and KY......got to Alabama 1.90   Florida 1.90   It has always been just the opposite.   Sorry, I do not need to lie.   I fifty years I have NEVER bought gas in Illinois for less than what I bought it in Florida or Alabama.  NEVER.

So you can post whatever source you want, I will later tonight use the phone to capture an image of a gas receipt......and then call me a liar.  As usual you are lost.

If you remember Bob's post about a dispute while driving with somebody he posted the low prices and that was at least three weeks ago.   These prices have been happening since the pipeline was rejected......happenstance.....maybe, but why after fifty years do gas price flip like this?

Flat out not true that gas is $1.70 in "MOST" of the country. If you want a discussion about something, wouldn't posting the truth in the beginning be helpful?

Once again:

Not one of the radical Progressives here come close, aside from taxes, to what causes the difference.

Anyone wish to venture a guess?

Again, for the hard to understand cook county has a huge gasoline tax of state, county, and city of 48.4 cents. I am not talking about Escambia County where they add the public transportation tax on gasoline.....I am talking about Santa Rosa County which is 36.7. I am talking about traveling in rural Illinois where 1.69 total cost per gallon of gas was on our trip down. Saw the same price in KY. Saw 1.90 or higher in Alabama and Florida. Again never......not even for a day have I seen a gallon of gas ANYWHERE in Illinois cost less than Alabama, or Florida......never.

This change now has been going on four weeks. Bob traveled four weeks ago through Illinois and he can confirm what I am saying. Something major has changed. What happen a month or so ago?

http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/

When do I get an apology. They are now down to a buck fifty in most of the state of Illinois. I have never in my lifetime seen anything like this.......again NEVER with family in Alabama and just finishing up my mom's burial have I seen gas prices in Alabama higher than Illinois.....and not just a little bit higher but almost forty cents.........ok Mr. Markle start with the apology and give me your explanation why this is happening.

I just checked the price in my town which was 1.74 which is always a dime more than the towns eight miles away. I left and the bigger town was 1.69. Up and down Illinois the price is at least twenty cents less than Alabama but as much as forty cents. Never seen this.....Never.

2seaoat wrote:http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/

When do I get an apology.  They are now down to a buck fifty in most of the state of Illinois. I have never in my lifetime seen anything like this.......again NEVER with family in Alabama and just finishing up my mom's burial have I seen gas prices in Alabama higher than Illinois.....and not just a little bit higher but almost forty cents.........ok Mr. Markle start with the apology and give me your explanation why this is happening.

You were saying Chicago, then when I showed prices in Chicago, you switched to Illinois whose AVERAGE is still far above $1.50 in most of the state.

You then chose towns 150 miles from Chicago. Here is the location of the first town on the site for which you provided a link. I lived in Chicago, I know Chicago...THIS IS NOT CHICAGO.

http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/

http://www.alabamagasprices.com/




The biggest single factor is taxes. The tax on a gallon of gasoline in Illinois is 25 cents higher than in Wyoming, while the California tax is 35 cents higher.

Please show me anywhere in this thread where I said anything about Chicago except in response to Boards and taxes. I always said Illinois. Also, why would I travel to Chicago from Northwestern Illinois to go to Birmingham, and then Santa Rosa County? I await your answer.

http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx

My first fill up in the Prius.......exactly what I said.

http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx
second partial fill up and bathroom break.

lunch and partial fill up
http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx

Now tell me why the midwest getting gas from the Indiana refineries are paying so little for gas and Alabama and Florida are paying so much.

Now santa rosa florida
http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx


NEVER IN MY LIFE HAS THIS HAPPENED>

From the very page YOU provided with your link. Here is the Illinois AVERAGE PRICES today.

Again no reference to Chicago, I only spoke of rural Illinois gas prices because that is where I traveled. Again, I have never seen Illinois gas prices less than Alabama or Florida......Never. You have nothing as I expected. No explanation, and nothing to counter the truth which I have shown you by town we stopped. The question is why?

It's obama's fault.

2seaoat wrote:Please show me anywhere in this thread where I said anything about Chicago except in response to Boards and taxes.   I always said Illinois.  Also, why would I travel to Chicago from Northwestern Illinois to go to Birmingham, and then Santa Rosa County?  I await your answer.

Yes, you said the price in most of Illinois is $1.50 per gallon and I proved you wrong.

You searched for the LOWEST price in Illinois. Now post your search for the highest prices.

No one has yet to provide the reason gas prices vary so much across the country. This is because PROGRESSIVES live in denial?

From YOUR site, lowest price in Rockford, IL which is NW of Chicago.

Lowest price in Rockford today is $1.78 per gallon.

Highest price in Rockford today is $1.95 per gallon.

http://www.illinoisgasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx

Energy Transfer Partners plans to build a 1,100-mile crude pipeline between North Dakota oil fields and the oil hub in Patoka, Illinois. From there, it could move 320,000 barrels a day to refineries in the Midwest,

It has been built for years, but why no change in prices? Also here is Patoka Illinois.....I have never been there.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Patoka,+IL+62875/@38.7561546,-91.3372353,7z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8874220ac48cb4bf:0x39e2e96cbf7ffda


About sixty miles northwest of St. Louis........all around this area are super low gas prices.....why?

President Obama rejection of the Keystone was when? Where is President Obama from.....? Who seems to benefit from no xl pipeline......interesting.

Mr. Markle you really are challenged. I said the prices were twenty cents less on my trip from Illinois to Alabama, and then Florida. You called me a liar. I then went town by town in Illinois, Ky, and TN where we got gas and where gas is refined at the midwest refineries, and I proved that I was not a liar. Now you are trying to prove that I only was trying to show you the lowest prices in Illinois which happen to be clustered around where I traveled. Now again, why are the prices in Alabama and Florida twenty cents more?

This is not hard.....try to think and use that brain before sundowner syndrome sets in......

2seaoat wrote:Sorry Mr. Markle that is the price.  I paid at the pump three weeks ago and it was cheaper in Illinois, and I paid 1/69 in Effingham Illinois three days ago.   Saw that price in Il and KY......got to Alabama 1.90   Florida 1.90   It has always been just the opposite.   Sorry, I do not need to lie.   I fifty years I have NEVER bought gas in Illinois for less than what I bought it in Florida or Alabama.  NEVER.

So you can post whatever source you want, I will later tonight use the phone to capture an image of a gas receipt......and then call me a liar.  As usual you are lost.

If you remember Bob's post about a dispute while driving with somebody he posted the low prices and that was at least three weeks ago.   These prices have been happening since the pipeline was rejected......happenstance.....maybe, but why after fifty years do gas price flip like this?

But you did when you posted this as a headline.

Why is gas in Pensacola 1.90 when it is 1.70 in most of the country