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Obamacaid Co-ops Failing

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1Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 11/30/2015, 6:46 pm

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I think ppaca made a thread on this topic a few weeks ago. It didn't get much interest... but I've been looking it up once a week. The lack of interest here didn't surprise me... but I noticed how little press it's gotten at all... particularly leftist and msm.

Today's google news search:

More Than Half of Obamacare's Co-Ops Have Now Failed -- Here's ... Motley Fool - Nov 15, 2015 Healthcare cooperatives, or co-ops, are nonprofit health organizations created as an alternative to ... Obamacare Continues To Circle The Drain Daily Caller Even If You Like Your Obamacare Co-Op Insurance, You Probably ... National Journal Health Republic: Why it failed Poughkeepsie Journal LifeZette

Motley Fool

GOP piles on after nearly half of Obamacare's co-ops fail Washington Times - Nov 2, 2015 A pair of House hearings this week will delve into the failure of co-ops in in Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, ... Nearly Half of Obamacare Co-Ops Have Failed Washington Free Beacon Overnight Healthcare: ObamaCare co-ops under fire The Hill Hatch, Alexander Press Administration on Failed Obamacare CO ... Utah Policy

Washington Times

Another Obamacare Failure: $1.23 Billion Taxpayer Funds Sunk in ... Washington Free Beacon - Nov 9, 2015 Experts and congressmen say the co-ops failed because of artificially low premiums, strict ... touts the number of individuals who have gained coverage under the Affordable Care Act, ... Bush has thoughtful plan to replace Obamacare Philly.com ObamaCare Cancer Patients Losing Hospital Coverage Daily Caller ACA CO-OP Failures Disappoint, Don't Surprise Somewhat Reasonable -Heartland Institute (blog) Texas Insider - Becker's Hospital Review

Washington Free Beacon

Lawmakers sound alarm over failing ObamaCare co-ops Fox News - Nov 3, 2015 To date, nearly half of the 23 co-ops established under the Affordable Care Act have gone or are ... More than half of Obamacare co-ops go belly up Washington Times Were Affordable Care Act Co-ops Doomed To Fail? As Insurers Fold ... International Business Times Obama Administration Cuts Its Losses with Crumbling Health Care ... The Fiscal Times Christian Broadcasting Network - Syracuse.com

International Business Times

Ben Sasse Demands 'Full Accounting' on Failure of Obamacare Co ... Daily Signal - Nov 5, 2015 “The tumultuous failure of the ACA's co-ops began in my own backyard,” Sasse said in his testimony ... Daily Signal

Despite 52% Failure Rate of ObamaCare Healthcare Co-ops, Md.'s ... Southern Maryland Online - Nov 8, 2015 WASHINGTON -- Amidst rising concerns surrounding health co-ops shutting down in various parts of ... Congress continues probe into failing Obamacare co-ops Ames Tribune Maryland healthcare co-op is strong, experts say The Star Democrat

The Star Democrat

Fate of ObamaCare co-ops uncertain after half collapse Fox News - 2 days ago According to Haislmaier, it is possible other co-ops fail in the near term, but he doesn't expect more ... Health Co-Ops Established Under Obamacare Already Failing Newsmax IMPENDING FAILURE? Fate of ObamaCare co-ops unclear after ... Bayoubuzz

Fox News

Why Obamacare Co-Ops Keep Failing Reason (blog) - 4 days ago Credit: White House / Flickr.comIt's been a no good, very bad month for the Affordable Care Act.

Reason (blog)

Gov Cuomo Blames Obama Administration for New York's Failed ... Breitbart News - Nov 6, 2015 Primarily non-profit insurers, Obamacare co-ops offer ... He's to blame for the entire aca debacle. Wanted: Cuomocare for failed Health Republic New York Daily News

2Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 11/30/2015, 8:26 pm

dumpcare



With the coming of the big 4 next year, which I believe they are positioning themselves up for the eventual single payer or Medicare for all. They will rule the health insurance in this nation.

3Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 10:44 am

gatorfan



It would have been more realistic and cost-effective to expand Medicare to anyone who can't afford or qualify for conventional health insurance.

4Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 11:09 am

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Guest

Or just set up govt clinics and hospitals... perhaps fold vets, mcare, mcaid into that... a completely separate system.

If you want govt healthcare... enjoy the system comrades. Private systems have subsidized it all along.

5Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 4:47 pm

gatorfan



"UnitedHealth CEO regrets entering ObamaCare"

By Sarah Ferris - 12/01/15 11:05 AM EST
"The CEO of UnitedHealthCare on Tuesday said he regretted the decision to enter the ObamaCare marketplace last year, which the company says has resulted in millions of dollars in losses.

“It was for us a bad decision,” UnitedHealth CEO Stephen Hemsley said at an investor’s meeting in New York, according to Bloomberg Business.

UnitedHealth, the country’s largest insurer, announced last month that it would no longer advertise its ObamaCare plans over the next year and may pull out completely in 2016 — a move that sent shockwaves across the healthcare sector.

Hemsley’s remarks double down on his earlier warning that the ObamaCare exchanges remain weaker than expected after two years and that it will take far longer for insurers to profit from the millions of new enrollees.

The company had already eyed ObamaCare’s federal marketplace cautiously since it launched in 2013. UnitedHealth only began selling plans on the exchanges last year.

Now, UnitedHealth officials have said that move will result in a half-billion dollars in losses over two years.

Hemsley said it was smart to sit out of the exchanges for the first year, but that the company should have held out another year.

“In retrospect, we should have stayed out longer,” he said, adding that he believes the marketplace will take more than “a season or two” to develop.

“We did not believe it would form this slowly, be this porous, or become this severe,” he said."

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/261617-unitedhealth-ceo-regrets-entering-obamacare-marketplace

6Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 5:16 pm

Sal

Sal

This is all the result of Republicans insisting destructive measures be crammed into the 2014 Cromnibus bill which was necessary to keep the government from shutting down.

This is not failure on the part of the ACA, it is intentional sabotage by the GOP.

Designed to fail, indeed.


http://acasignups.net/15/10/08/my-half-assed-attempt-explain-risk-corridor-brouhaha

7Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 5:32 pm

gatorfan



Salinsky wrote:This is all the result of Republicans insisting destructive measures be crammed into the 2014 Cromnibus bill which was necessary to keep the government from shutting down.

This is not failure on the part of the ACA, it is intentional sabotage by the GOP.

Designed to fail, indeed.


http://acasignups.net/15/10/08/my-half-assed-attempt-explain-risk-corridor-brouhaha

So the crooked R’s ruined the best deal ever for insurers by demanding a revenue neutral option – most businesses operate that way. BTW, the “Cromnibus” was supported by Senate Dems and Obama so what’s your real problem with making insurers succeed or fail on their own merits?
Also, 18 R’s and 21 D’s in the Senate voted NO. That’s hardly a partisan line there sport.

8Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 6:33 pm

Markle

Markle

gatorfan wrote:It would have been more realistic and cost-effective to expand Medicare to anyone who can't afford or qualify for conventional health insurance.

Really HOW. Specifically HOW.

How is it going to be paid?

TODAY, as you should know, the unfunded liability for Medicare is $27.6 TRILLION and the unfunded liability for Social Security is $14.5 TRILLION. Add to that our National Debt, which has grown in SEVEN YEARS from $10 TRILLION to $18.8 TRILLION and tell us we have plenty of money to pay TRILLIONS more.

FROM WHERE?

9Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 7:24 pm

Guest


Guest

Take the monies for the va health services, medicaid, medicare, and obamacaid subsidies... make a socialist system.

It'll provide what it's able. Don't worry... there will still be long delays, rationing and death panels. Good luck comrades.

10Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/1/2015, 7:24 pm

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

I'm not a fan of everything Marco Rubio stands for, but one point in his favor is you can thank him for leading the charge in preventing a taxpayer bailout of the companies selling insurance on the public exchanges.

I won't bother with links .... google it if you want to know about it.

11Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/2/2015, 1:07 am

Markle

Markle

Salinsky wrote:This is all the result of Republicans insisting destructive measures be crammed into the 2014 Cromnibus bill which was necessary to keep the government from shutting down.

This is not failure on the part of the ACA, it is intentional sabotage by the GOP.

Designed to fail, indeed.

http://acasignups.net/15/10/08/my-half-assed-attempt-explain-risk-corridor-brouhaha

How did Republicans do anything? It passed without a single Republican vote in either he house or senate. Although it took numerous bribes, payoffs and probably blackmail to get all the Democrats in line.

You OWN IT.

12Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/2/2015, 8:11 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:Take the monies for the va health services, medicaid, medicare, and obamacaid subsidies... make a socialist system.

It'll provide what it's able. Don't worry... there will still be long delays, rationing and death panels. Good luck comrades.

Mr Pkrbum loves lying about things like this. No delays, no rationing and no death panels in Scandinavia -- which Bernie Sanders holds up as the best health system in the world today -- and one he hopes to deliver here if elected. Go Bernie, Go!

13Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/2/2015, 8:30 am

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Take the monies for the va health services, medicaid, medicare, and obamacaid subsidies... make a socialist system.

It'll provide what it's able. Don't worry... there will still be long delays, rationing and death panels. Good luck comrades.

Mr Pkrbum loves lying about things like this.  No delays, no rationing and no death panels in Scandinavia -- which Bernie Sanders holds up as the best health system in the world today -- and one he hopes to deliver here if elected.  Go Bernie, Go!

Wait a minute, it is semi-retired President Obama's Chieft Medical Adviser who shouted out to Britain's that he LOVES THEIR SYSTEM. That same system is failing in Great Britain along with their having death panels.

All three Scandinavian countries have massive taxes massive natural resources. They also accept that once born, they are in their class and they have no aspirations of getting ahead. Much like semi-retired President Obama is doing to America. Born into poverty and that's where you stay.

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14Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/2/2015, 8:33 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Take the monies for the va health services, medicaid, medicare, and obamacaid subsidies... make a socialist system.

It'll provide what it's able. Don't worry... there will still be long delays, rationing and death panels. Good luck comrades.

Mr Pkrbum loves lying about things like this.  No delays, no rationing and no death panels in Scandinavia -- which Bernie Sanders holds up as the best health system in the world today -- and one he hopes to deliver here if elected.  Go Bernie, Go!

Wait a minute, it is semi-retired President Obama's Chieft Medical Adviser who shouted out to Britain's that he LOVES THEIR SYSTEM.  That same system is failing in Great Britain along with their having death panels.

All three Scandinavian countries have massive taxes massive natural resources.  They also accept that once born, they are in their class and they have no aspirations of getting ahead.  Much like semi-retired President Obama is doing to America.  Born into poverty and that's where you stay.

Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 4179d5af-8e07-40f4-a4fd-7635bb941446_zpsbyhpludp

More utter bullshit from the Prince of Doodoo. Studies show the citizens of the Scandinavian countries are the most satisfied and happiest populations in the world today. Free education. Free healthcare, no wars. Reality.

15Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/2/2015, 8:36 am

Guest


Guest

Free ain't cheap comrade. You're using a poor equivalence... no matter how many times it's debunked.

16Obamacaid Co-ops Failing Empty Re: Obamacaid Co-ops Failing 12/2/2015, 8:48 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:Free ain't cheap comrade. You're using a poor equivalence... no matter how many times it's debunked.


Debunked, my ass. Tax the ultra rich and the biggest bloodsucking corporations at rates that equal those now charged the middle class, and stop playing policeman of the world, and you've got more than you need to fund free healthcare, free college education, and and provide a sense of satisfaction, instead of apprehension, and the daily fear our country has failed.

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