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1Bernie Empty Bernie 7/28/2015, 8:37 am

nadalfan



While the gop presidential candidates struggle to find the most outrageous things to say to get attention and get a piece of Trump's pie, democratic presidential candidates are presenting their ideas.
(still waiting for conservatives to let us know of any proposals the gop presidential candidates are promoting that would help the middle class)

Here's Bernie Sanders' 12 step agenda

Rebuilding Our Crumbling Infrastructure
Reversing Climate Change
Creating Worker Co-ops
Growing the Trade Union Movement
Raising the Minimum Wage
Pay Equity for Women Workers
Trade Policies that Benefit American Workers
Making College Affordable for All
Taking on Wall Street
Health Care as a Right for All
Protecting the Most Vulnerable Americans
Real Tax Reform

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/agenda/

2Bernie Empty Re: Bernie 7/28/2015, 8:50 am

Sal

Sal

Bernie has a fabulous populist agenda that should be wildly appealing to the electorate.

The problem is the "socialist" label he carries makes him unelectable, because too many Americans are ignorant regarding what the term means in the 21st Century.

Cue random internet guy.

The Republican field should inspire great confidence in me, but with Hillary's toxic relationship with the press and Bernie's aforementioned problem, I'm feeling a bit queasy about the whole prospect.

Where's Elizabeth Warren when we need her?

3Bernie Empty Re: Bernie 7/28/2015, 9:10 am

nadalfan



Snark Spigot wrote:Bernie has a fabulous populist agenda that should be wildly appealing to the electorate.

The problem is the "socialist" label he carries makes him unelectable, because too many Americans are ignorant regarding what the term means in the 21st Century.

Cue random internet guy.

The Republican field should inspire great confidence in me, but with Hillary's toxic relationship with the press and Bernie's aforementioned problem, I'm feeling a bit queasy about the whole prospect.

Where's Elizabeth Warren when we need her?

He's doing better than most people thought he would. I agree that he probably can't win, but he's getting enough attention to change the conversation...that's a great thing.
Despite the problems with Hillary, she's still very popular and compared to the alternative....well...that's the choice we'll have to deal with
In an interview, Lindsey Graham said she would be another Obama...I hope that message gets pushed and I expect when she gets the nomination, President Obama will do some hard campaigning for her.
Will she win? I can't imagine the other guys winning, but Bush did get elected to a second term, so I don't know. We still have a long way to go.

4Bernie Empty Re: Bernie 7/28/2015, 9:15 am

Guest


Guest

Atleast he's honest enough to call himself a socialist... even if he ignores the historical results like the rest of y'all.

5Bernie Empty Re: Bernie 7/28/2015, 9:19 am

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

nadalfan wrote:While the gop presidential candidates struggle to find the most outrageous things to say to get attention and get a piece of Trump's pie, democratic presidential candidates are presenting their ideas.
(still waiting for conservatives to let us know of any proposals the gop presidential candidates are promoting that would help the middle class)

Here's Bernie Sanders' 12 step agenda

Rebuilding Our Crumbling Infrastructure
Reversing Climate Change
Creating Worker Co-ops
Growing the Trade Union Movement
Raising the Minimum Wage
Pay Equity for Women Workers
Trade Policies that Benefit American Workers
Making College Affordable for All
Taking on Wall Street
Health Care as a Right for All
Protecting the Most Vulnerable Americans
Real Tax Reform

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/agenda/

Can he do all this with executive orders? Or are we counting on a republican congress to rubber stamp it for him?

6Bernie Empty Re: Bernie 7/28/2015, 9:31 am

Guest


Guest

If congress will rubberstamp a leftist community organizer to make international trade agreements... anything is possible.

7Bernie Empty Re: Bernie 7/28/2015, 9:38 am

nadalfan



interview with Ezra Klein

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9014491/bernie-sanders-vox-conversation

8Bernie Empty Re: Bernie 7/28/2015, 9:43 am

nadalfan



PkrBum wrote:Atleast he's honest enough to call himself a socialist... even if he ignores the historical results like the rest of y'all.
From the vox interview

Ezra Klein
Tell me what it means to be a socialist.

Bernie Sanders
A democratic socialist. What it means is that one takes a hard look at countries around the world who have successful records in fighting and implementing programs for the middle class and working families.

"I think absolutely that the cost of prescription drugs should be regulated"
When you do that, you automatically go to countries like Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, and other countries that have had labor governments or social democratic governments, and what you find is that in virtually all of those countries, health care is a right of all people and their systems are far more cost-effective than ours, college education is virtually free in all of those countries, people retire with better benefits, wages that people receive are often higher, distribution of wealth and income is much fairer, their public education systems are generally stronger than ours.

And by and large their governments tend to represent the needs of their middle class and working families rather than billionaires and campaign contributors. When I talk about being a democratic socialist, those are the countries that I am looking at, and those are the ideas that I think we can learn a lot from."

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