HomeI have heard alot of complaining but no alternatives. Are there any? Feel free to lay them out here and make the case for the Republican alternative to the Iran deal.
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Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal?
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1 Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 9:18 am
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2 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 9:21 am
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Giving them the keys to the house isn't the answer either. Why are we entering agreements with people who say "Death to America", " We will trample America" etc? When they agree to already violate the terms of the agreement themselves?
3 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 9:23 am
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Appeasement isn't the answer either. Holding firm on sanctions works, enforcing red lines works, negotiating with liars and backstabbers does not work.
4 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 9:26 am
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The thread isn't titled "Can any republican make broad complaints against the Iran deal?"
I'm asking any republican voter to lay out the republican alternative to the Iran deal. I get that you do not support the current deal. OK. What policy do you support? Can you lay that out?
I'm asking any republican voter to lay out the republican alternative to the Iran deal. I get that you do not support the current deal. OK. What policy do you support? Can you lay that out?
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5 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 12:03 pm
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Walk away from the negotiation table and tell the rest of the world; especially Europe, Russia, China, and India; it's their problem.
That way the money we save, like the $50 billion that Obama wants to give Iran, can be used on infrastructure instead.
*****BOARDS THE IDIOT*****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA
That way the money we save, like the $50 billion that Obama wants to give Iran, can be used on infrastructure instead.
*****BOARDS THE IDIOT*****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA
6 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 12:17 pm
2seaoat
That way the money we save, like the $50 billion that Obama wants to give Iran, can be used on infrastructure instead.
The level of ignorance is often too much to process. You do realize the 50 billion is Iran's money frozen in the sanctions? So your solution is let the international community take care of Iran as we steal 50 billion of their assets......stunningly out of touch with reality. Why bother to comment if you do not even understand the problem, let alone the solution which is hardly a solution.
The level of ignorance is often too much to process. You do realize the 50 billion is Iran's money frozen in the sanctions? So your solution is let the international community take care of Iran as we steal 50 billion of their assets......stunningly out of touch with reality. Why bother to comment if you do not even understand the problem, let alone the solution which is hardly a solution.
7 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 12:27 pm
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The Man Comes Around wrote:Walk away from the negotiation table and tell the rest of the world; especially Europe, Russia, China, and India; it's their problem.
That way the money we save, like the $50 billion that Obama wants to give Iran, can be used on infrastructure instead.
*****BOARDS THE IDIOT*****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA
(sprays air freshener)
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8 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 12:42 pm
ZVUGKTUBM
The Iran deal upsets the apple cart for Poster PaceDog/KarRove/Demssuck/Guest. He wants war between Israel and Iran to occur for religious reasons. The sooner we have Armageddon, the better, according to all of the Evangelical end-times junk that gets preached to him from the pulpit by his pastor.
9 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 1:17 pm
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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Iran deal upsets the apple cart
It upsets the balance of the middle east... the other countries will be jockeying to gain the same nuclear status.
What could go wrong when ass backward suicide bomber theocracies have nuclear bombs and icbms?
Who cares... amiright?
10 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 1:42 pm
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So is that it then? There isn't one republican here who can lay out a realistic alternative to the Iran deal? The best submission out of the entire lot is to steal $50 billion from Iran and put that towards our infrastructure?
The term 'low information voter' comes to mind.
The term 'low information voter' comes to mind.
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11 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 1:56 pm
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http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/23/a-closer-look-at-the-parties-in-2012/
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by this. The audience that the republican party is targeting is very clear...
Yee-haw!!! Them republicans is cornering the market on dumb folk!!! Tapping in to that low information voter bank!!
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by this. The audience that the republican party is targeting is very clear...
Yee-haw!!! Them republicans is cornering the market on dumb folk!!! Tapping in to that low information voter bank!!
Lower-income and less educated whites also have shifted substantially toward the Republican Party since 2008. The GOP has largely erased the wide lead Democrats had among white voters with family incomes less than $30,000. And middle-income whites ($30,000-$74,999), who were split between the parties four years ago, now favor the GOP by 17 points. By contrast, there has been no shift among higher income whites, who favor the GOP by roughly the same margin today as in 2008.
Similarly, whites without a college degree now tilt decidedly toward the Republican Party – the GOP now holds a 54% to 37% advantage among non-college whites, who were split about evenly four years ago. The partisanship of white college graduates, by contrast, has not changed.
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12 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 2:35 pm
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boards of FL wrote:So is that it then? There isn't one republican here who can lay out a realistic alternative to the Iran deal? The best submission out of the entire lot is to steal $50 billion from Iran and put that towards our infrastructure?
The term 'low information voter' comes to mind.
The problem for the Repukes is that there is no realistic alternative.
They have no earthly idea how to put of positive spin on the prospect of war with Iran, nor can they provide a rational scenario whereby the United States could unilaterally apply enough pressure to force a regime change in Iran or abandonment of their nuclear ambitions.
So, you get idiocy like the word salad DE puked on this thread or random internet guy pretending that the goal of the agreement is the exact opposite of reality.
That's all they can muster.
13 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 2:42 pm
Guest
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Please show me where I've EVER supported war with ANY country.
14 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 2:42 pm
ZVUGKTUBM
PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Iran deal upsets the apple cart
It upsets the balance of the middle east... the other countries will be jockeying to gain the same nuclear status.
What could go wrong when ass backward suicide bomber theocracies have nuclear bombs and icbms?
Who cares... amiright?
I think you are mistaken. The 400 nuclear warheads possessed by Israel, with weapons systems that can deliver them to parts of the world where Israel has no enemies--now that is destabilizing as hell. I don't see any Republican indignation about this, nor about the threat posed by North Korea.
15 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 2:52 pm
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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Iran deal upsets the apple cart
It upsets the balance of the middle east... the other countries will be jockeying to gain the same nuclear status.
What could go wrong when ass backward suicide bomber theocracies have nuclear bombs and icbms?
Who cares... amiright?
I think you are mistaken. The 400 nuclear warheads possessed by Israel, with weapons systems that can deliver them to parts of the world where Israel has no enemies--now that is destabilizing as hell. I don't see any Republican indignation about this, nor about the threat posed by North Korea.
Israel has never threatened to use any type of nuclear weapon and almost never acts first. N.Korea on the other hand continuously acts proactively... and iran supports terrorist acts and is supporting numerous proxy wars and swears to annihilate israel, jews, and infidels. See the difference there? No? I'm not surprised.
You harbor some stark antisemitic bias... directly in line w iran. I'm no fan of israel and even I can easily see it.
16 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 3:25 pm
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PkrBum wrote:Please show me where I've EVER supported war with ANY country.
Perhaps you can clarify whatever policy it is that you do support?
Of course you can't.
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17 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 3:30 pm
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Whether the treaty fails or succeeds the effort had to made, it was the right thing to do. One thing about the mullahs in Iran you can count on - they will always be fist shaking anti-Americans because that's how they maintain their fanatical grip on that country. The "civilian" or more modern sector - not so much.
I also think it's laughable how some people state Israel having nukes is a destabilizing influence after over 30 years. And those same people refuse to address Pakistani nukes (nukes stored in an extremely unstable country busting at the seams with terrorists) so that tells me they are bigoted hypocrites. There have been several occasions when the Israelis could have used them and - like us - didn't.
I also think it's laughable how some people state Israel having nukes is a destabilizing influence after over 30 years. And those same people refuse to address Pakistani nukes (nukes stored in an extremely unstable country busting at the seams with terrorists) so that tells me they are bigoted hypocrites. There have been several occasions when the Israelis could have used them and - like us - didn't.
18 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 4:17 pm
ZVUGKTUBM
PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Iran deal upsets the apple cart
It upsets the balance of the middle east... the other countries will be jockeying to gain the same nuclear status.
What could go wrong when ass backward suicide bomber theocracies have nuclear bombs and icbms?
Who cares... amiright?
I think you are mistaken. The 400 nuclear warheads possessed by Israel, with weapons systems that can deliver them to parts of the world where Israel has no enemies--now that is destabilizing as hell. I don't see any Republican indignation about this, nor about the threat posed by North Korea.
Israel has never threatened to use any type of nuclear weapon and almost never acts first. N.Korea on the other hand continuously acts proactively... and iran supports terrorist acts and is supporting numerous proxy wars and swears to annihilate israel, jews, and infidels. See the difference there? No? I'm not surprised.
You harbor some stark antisemitic bias... directly in line w iran. I'm no fan of israel and even I can easily see it.
"...Israel has never threatened to use any type of nuclear weapon..." Truth. Nor has Iran, yet wingnuts everywhere claim Iran is a nuclear threat to Israel and the United States.
"...iran supports terrorist acts... ...and swears to annihilate israel, jews..." Where has Iran taken specific action to "annihilate' Israel/Jews? I think you are engaging in speculation again....
"...You harbor some stark antisemitic bias..." I want Congress to put U.S. interests before ANY AND ALL foreign interests, to include Israel's.
19 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 4:27 pm
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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Iran deal upsets the apple cart
It upsets the balance of the middle east... the other countries will be jockeying to gain the same nuclear status.
What could go wrong when ass backward suicide bomber theocracies have nuclear bombs and icbms?
Who cares... amiright?
I think you are mistaken. The 400 nuclear warheads possessed by Israel, with weapons systems that can deliver them to parts of the world where Israel has no enemies--now that is destabilizing as hell. I don't see any Republican indignation about this, nor about the threat posed by North Korea.
Israel has never threatened to use any type of nuclear weapon and almost never acts first. N.Korea on the other hand continuously acts proactively... and iran supports terrorist acts and is supporting numerous proxy wars and swears to annihilate israel, jews, and infidels. See the difference there? No? I'm not surprised.
You harbor some stark antisemitic bias... directly in line w iran. I'm no fan of israel and even I can easily see it.
"...Israel has never threatened to use any type of nuclear weapon..." Truth. Nor has Iran, yet wingnuts everywhere claim Iran is a nuclear threat to Israel and the United States.
"...iran supports terrorist acts... ...and swears to annihilate israel, jews..." Where has Iran taken specific action to "annihilate' Israel/Jews? I think you are engaging in speculation again....
"...You harbor some stark antisemitic bias..." I want Congress to put U.S. interests before ANY AND ALL foreign interests, to include Israel's.
“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury”.
“Iran can recruit hundreds of suicide bombers a day. Suicide is an invincible weapon. Suicide bombers in this land showed us the way, and they enlighten our future.”
Ahmadinijad
Our battalions are named Imam Ali, Imam Hussein and Bayt al-Maqdis [Jerusalem] to clarify our final destination to the Basiji. We will not abandon our [armed] struggle until the annihilation of Israel and until we will be able to pray in al-Aqsa mosque.”
Brig. Gen. Mohammad Reza Naqdi, Commander of the Basij militia
“The enemies are talking about the options [they have] on the table. They should know that the first option on our table is the annihilation of Israel.”
Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani, Lecturer at religious seminary in Qom
“We must spare no effort in liberating holy Jerusalem and cutting off the hands of the infidels from this holy site.”
Ayatollah Mohammad Reza Mahdavi Kani, Assembly of Experts Chairman
“The Zionist regime will soon be destroyed, and this generation will be witness to its destruction.”
Hojatoleslam Ali Shirazi, Supreme Leader’s representative in the Revolutionary Guards
“The issue of Palestine is an Islamic issue. The Islamic world must come together to destroy the false Israeli regime….If this happens, nothing will be left of Israel.”
Ayatollah Mohammed Ali Movahedi-Kermani, Tehran’s interim Friday Imam
“As the Supreme Leader has stated, if the Zionists cause any problems for Iran, Haifa and Tel Aviv will be annihilated.”
Maj. Gen. Yahya Rahim Safavi, Senior Military Adviser to the Supreme Leader
“Iran has long-range missiles that can reach 1,500 kilometers….The Supreme Leader maintained that ‘every combatant Palestinian group that fights the Zionist regime will receive the support of the Iranian regime.’”
Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami, Member of the Presidium of the Assembly of Experts
“The only way to subdue the enemies is by refusing to compromise on the goals of the resistance and to remain strong; the future of criminal nations such as the Zionists will be erased from the history books.”
Hojatoleslam Mohammad Hassan Akhtari, Hizbullah Operations Liaison, Former Ambassador to Syria
“If once the destruction and demise of occupying Israel was an impossible and unattainable dream, today thanks to the historic and intelligent actions of Imam Khomeini, it has become possible and is actually in the process of occurring.”
Iranian Ministry of Defense statement
“The day will come when the Islamic people in the region will destroy Israel and save the world from this Zionist base.”
Hojateleslam Alireza Panahian, Advisor to Office of the Supreme Leader in Universities
“The day is near in which the sword of resistance and Islamic Awakening will cut off the blood supply of the occupiers of the holy land of Palestine.”
Revolutionary Guards statement
“Every Muslim who does not want to fight Israel is violating religious law and essentially forgetting Israel’s crimes over the past 60 years on Islamic soil.”
Mohammad Dehghan, Member of the Majlis Executive Committee
“The only solution to the Palestine problem is the destruction of the Zionist regime….We view the wondrous resistance as the only way towards a victorious and inspiring battle against the false, illegitimate Zionist regime.”
Basij organization media outlet, Fars Province
“[The United States and Israel] should not make a mistake, because if they make even the smallest mistake, we will not remain silent and will annihilate Haifa and Tel Aviv.”
Esmail Kowsari, Deputy Chairman of the Majlis Foreign Policy Commission
“The destruction of Israel is the idea of the Islamic Revolution in Iran and is one of the pillars of the Iranian Islamic regime. We cannot claim that we have no intention of going to war with Israel!”
Ahmad Alamolhoda, Member of the Assembly of Experts
20 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 4:53 pm
Markle
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:PkrBum wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Iran deal upsets the apple cart
It upsets the balance of the middle east... the other countries will be jockeying to gain the same nuclear status.
What could go wrong when ass backward suicide bomber theocracies have nuclear bombs and icbms?
Who cares... amiright?
I think you are mistaken. The 400 nuclear warheads possessed by Israel, with weapons systems that can deliver them to parts of the world where Israel has no enemies--now that is destabilizing as hell. I don't see any Republican indignation about this, nor about the threat posed by North Korea.
Israel has never threatened to use any type of nuclear weapon and almost never acts first. N.Korea on the other hand continuously acts proactively... and iran supports terrorist acts and is supporting numerous proxy wars and swears to annihilate israel, jews, and infidels. See the difference there? No? I'm not surprised.
You harbor some stark antisemitic bias... directly in line w iran. I'm no fan of israel and even I can easily see it.
"...Israel has never threatened to use any type of nuclear weapon... " Truth. Nor has Iran, yet wingnuts everywhere claim Iran is a nuclear threat to Israel and the United States.
"...iran supports terrorist acts... ...and swears to annihilate israel, jews..."[/color][/b] Where has Iran taken specific action to "annihilate' Israel/Jews? I think you are engaging in speculation again....
"...You harbor some stark antisemitic bias..." I want Congress to put U.S. interests before ANY AND ALL foreign interests, to include Israel's.
LIE, Iran even has in their constitution to destroy Israel and push them into the sea.
When someone with the ability promises, no swears to annihilate you, you really should pay attention. See Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, cripples and anyone else not up to Adolph Hitler's "standards" leading up to and including WWII. Including prisoners of war.
We are in a WORLD ECONOMY now in the event you have not noticed. What happens in the world good or bad, is in the interest of the United States. If you do not grasp that concept, you are a danger to our country.
21 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 5:20 pm
boards of FL
So...still no alternative to the Iran deal?
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22 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 6:02 pm
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boards of FL wrote:So...still no alternative to the Iran deal?
How?
Semi-retired President Obama started the collapse when he took office and went on his world wide apology tour. Showing the world he was weak and ineffective.
Now he has gotten us to a point where our enemies don't respect or fear us and our supposed friends can't trust us.
Now President Obama has caved for Iran, Cuba and ISIS.
President Obama goes out of his way to circumvent the checks and balances dictated in our Constitution.
So why make any proposal. Like ObamaCare, let it crash and burn.
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23 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 6:34 pm
2seaoat
went on his world wide apology tour. Showing the world he was weak in ineffective.
Now he has gotten us to a point where our enemies don't respect or fear us and our supposed friends can't trust us.
You remind me of the big talker who is going to kick my asz. They always had the Donald Trump bluster......we will have the best army and nobody will mess with us because they know we can destroy them......blah blah blah......I am going to kick you asz because I am big and scary and you should fear me because I am telling you I am not weak and ineffective.......which usually followed with a single pop.......silence as the bluster retreated into the reality that strength is never measured by words alone, and respect or disrespect is earned not by bluster, but by performance, and the wussification of America with the likes of Ted "I am a better Eddie Munster than Ryan....and I engender fear"....or Butchmeup getting his panties in a wad......"ISIS is coming to kill us all", and Mr. Markle.......yea we need Ted or Lindsey to scare some people and get the respect of our allies........President Obama is a stud.....you are so wussified that you cannot even distinguish reality from this fantasy world that must have worked where you think you scared somebody in your past.....enough with the wussification.....I think I am growing a vagina.......oh yea.....Hillary has more gonads than the entire Republican field.....she is tough, smart, and strong, and can we finally put this Butchmeup phase in our rear view mirror......whiney weak men like Cruz, Butchmeup, Paul, and even Rubio cannot handle Hillary's gonads or strength and determination........Is there anybody in the Republican national scene who can lead, or at least move away from butchmeup hysteria?
Now he has gotten us to a point where our enemies don't respect or fear us and our supposed friends can't trust us.
You remind me of the big talker who is going to kick my asz. They always had the Donald Trump bluster......we will have the best army and nobody will mess with us because they know we can destroy them......blah blah blah......I am going to kick you asz because I am big and scary and you should fear me because I am telling you I am not weak and ineffective.......which usually followed with a single pop.......silence as the bluster retreated into the reality that strength is never measured by words alone, and respect or disrespect is earned not by bluster, but by performance, and the wussification of America with the likes of Ted "I am a better Eddie Munster than Ryan....and I engender fear"....or Butchmeup getting his panties in a wad......"ISIS is coming to kill us all", and Mr. Markle.......yea we need Ted or Lindsey to scare some people and get the respect of our allies........President Obama is a stud.....you are so wussified that you cannot even distinguish reality from this fantasy world that must have worked where you think you scared somebody in your past.....enough with the wussification.....I think I am growing a vagina.......oh yea.....Hillary has more gonads than the entire Republican field.....she is tough, smart, and strong, and can we finally put this Butchmeup phase in our rear view mirror......whiney weak men like Cruz, Butchmeup, Paul, and even Rubio cannot handle Hillary's gonads or strength and determination........Is there anybody in the Republican national scene who can lead, or at least move away from butchmeup hysteria?
24 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 6:44 pm
Guest
Guest
Hillary is every bit the warmonger as most of the pubs... including graham, mccain, bush2, cheney... etc.
I'll give you that point.
I'll give you that point.
25 Re: Can any republican lay out an alternative to the Iran deal? 7/21/2015, 7:25 pm
Markle
2seaoat wrote:went on his world wide apology tour. Showing the world he was weak in ineffective.
Now he has gotten us to a point where our enemies don't respect or fear us and our supposed friends can't trust us.
You remind me of the big talker who is going to kick my asz. They always had the Donald Trump bluster......we will have the best army and nobody will mess with us because they know we can destroy them......blah blah blah......I am going to kick you asz because I am big and scary and you should fear me because I am telling you I am not weak and ineffective.......which usually followed with a single pop.......silence as the bluster retreated into the reality that strength is never measured by words alone, and respect or disrespect is earned not by bluster, but by performance, and the wussification of America with the likes of Ted "I am a better Eddie Munster than Ryan....and I engender fear"....or Butchmeup getting his panties in a wad......"ISIS is coming to kill us all", and Mr. Markle.......yea we need Ted or Lindsey to scare some people and get the respect of our allies........President Obama is a stud.....you are so wussified that you cannot even distinguish reality from this fantasy world that must have worked where you think you scared somebody in your past.....enough with the wussification.....I think I am growing a vagina.......oh yea.....Hillary has more gonads than the entire Republican field.....she is tough, smart, and strong, and can we finally put this Butchmeup phase in our rear view mirror......whiney weak men like Cruz, Butchmeup, Paul, and even Rubio cannot handle Hillary's gonads or strength and determination........Is there anybody in the Republican national scene who can lead, or at least move away from butchmeup hysteria?
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