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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0P62MV20150626?irpc=932

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A batch of 15 newly disclosed Hillary Clinton emails appears to contradict her assertion last month that memos about Libya she received from an old friend while she was U.S. secretary of state were "unsolicited."

Clinton did not hand over the emails to the State Department last year when she provided the agency with what she said was a complete record of her work-related emails, the department said on Thursday night.

The disclosure that the record was incomplete, for reasons that remain unclear, has added to criticism of the favorite to become the Democratic Party's nominee for the 2016 presidential election.

Political opponents say Clinton side-stepped federal record-keeping and transparency laws by using a private email server in her home for work-related correspondence. The Republican Party said on Friday it was renewing its demands that Clinton relinquish the server to be examined.

2seaoat


Non story..........benghazi storytelling got the last challenger nowhere, and it appears that Gomer has not learned.....Colin Powell told them to pound on sand....he lost the data.....and everybody went......ok......why because there was NO law which did not allow an individual server, but to issue a subpoena and actually inspect the server......you need to wait three years until the general election.....utter politics with zero substance....Non Story.

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I have no delusion that anything would matter to diminish your adoration comrade.

http://causeofaction.org/usa-today-three-transparency-laws-hillary-may-have-violated-column/

First, she may have violated the Federal Records Act. Even in 2009, this law required Clinton to “ensure that Federal records sent or received” on her private email “are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.” Clinton claims to have fulfilled this law by turning over 55,000 pages of emails to the Department of State, but the full truth cannot be known until and unless investigators are able to access her private email server. The penalties for violating the Federal Records Act include fines, jail time or disqualification from holding any office under the United States.

The second law Clinton may have violated is Section 1924 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, which forbids federal employees from retaining classified information in an unauthorized manner — such as in a personal email. A 2009 Executive Order by President Barack Obama has a similar ban on such activity. Clinton has sought to address this problem by claiming that her emails never dealt with classified information, yet this is highly unlikely given her role as Secretary of State.

And finally, Clinton may have violated the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). By utilizing a private email server beyond the control of the State Department, her email records will never be subject to FOIA requests — the most basic tool in keeping Washington transparent. In fact, Clinton may have used a private email server precisely to evade FOIA.

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" Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps, the secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts....It’s a stunning record of secrecy and corruption, of cronyism run amok. It is everything our founders were afraid of, everything our Constitution was designed to prevent." Hillary 2007

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Lol... more than half of what comes out of her mouth are lies and half-truths. This is who you want as dear leader?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/apr/10/hillary-clinton-and-truth-o-meter/

Wordslinger

Wordslinger
PkrBum wrote:Lol... more than half of what comes out of her mouth are lies and half-truths. This is who you want as dear leader?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/apr/10/hillary-clinton-and-truth-o-meter/


The alternatives you offer -- like Huckabee -- promise to overturn Obamacare, the marriage equality act, and make sure that creative design is taught as a genuine science in public schools, and to send 12 million Mexican immigrants who have been working here and paying taxes back to the old country.

I think I'll vote for Hillary, like most of the electorate.

TEOTWAWKI

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PkrBum wrote:" Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps, the secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts....It’s a stunning record of secrecy and corruption, of cronyism run amok. It is everything our founders were afraid of, everything our Constitution was designed to prevent." Hillary 2007

And with the exception of the emails did your list start with J.Edgar Hoover or before?

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ppaca wrote:
PkrBum wrote:" Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps, the secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts....It’s a stunning record of secrecy and corruption, of cronyism run amok. It is everything our founders were afraid of, everything our Constitution was designed to prevent." Hillary 2007

And with the exception of the emails did your list start with J.Edgar Hoover or before?

Not sure if you're talking to me or her... lol. But she'll tell you whatever she thinks will get her elected...

literally anything... cause... "what does it matter?"

“Don't let anybody tell you that, you know, its corporations and businesses that create jobs."

KarlRove

KarlRove
She's a liar just Ike her husband was proven to be.

Markle

Markle
2seaoat wrote: Non story..........benghazi storytelling got the last challenger nowhere, and it appears that Gomer has not learned.....Colin Powell told them to pound on sand....he lost the data.....and everybody went......ok......why because there was NO law which did not allow an individual server, but to issue a subpoena and actually inspect the server......you need to wait three years until the general election.....utter politics with zero substance....Non Story.

Of COURSE! Don't you wish!

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She committed a criminal violation of the law... the only question is whether she will be treated as any of us would.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

http://harpers.org/blog/2008/01/the-emails-that-dick-cheney-deleted/

The Emails that Dick Cheney Deleted
By Scott Horton

Late last week, right after official White House spokesmen made a series of either evasive or completely false statements about the mysterious case of the vanishing, then reappearing, then perhaps no really vanished White House emails, Henry Waxman and his Oversight Committee announced some of the conclusions they had reached. Dan Eggen and Elizabeth Williamson published an account of it on Friday in the Washington Post:

The White House possesses no archived e-mail messages for many of its component offices, including the Executive Office of the President and the Office of the Vice President, for hundreds of days between 2003 and 2005, according to the summary of an internal White House study that was disclosed yesterday by a congressional Democrat.
The 2005 study — whose credibility the White House attacked this week — identified 473 separate days in which no electronic messages were stored for one or more White House offices, said House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.).

Waxman said he decided to release the summary after White House spokesman Tony Fratto said yesterday that there is “no evidence” that any White House e-mails from those years are missing. Fratto’s assertion “seems to be an unsubstantiated statement that has no relation to the facts they have shared with us,” Waxman said. The competing claims were the latest salvos in an escalating dispute over whether the Bush administration has complied with long-standing statutory requirements to preserve official White House records — including those reflecting potentially sensitive policy discussions — for history and in case of any future legal demands.

Waxman said he is seeking testimony on the issue at a hearing next month from White House counsel Fred F. Fielding, National Archivist Allen Weinstein and Alan R. Swendiman, the politically appointed director of the Office of Administration, which produced the 2005 study at issue.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has now posted a series of studies to help us zero in on just what’s missing. It will come as no surprise to most that the big offender is the man at the center of the most virulent scandals, and the missing email traffic relates just to those dates in which a federal prosecutor would have the most interest. Vice President Dick Cheney’s office destroyed its emails, in violation of the requirements of the federal records act and potentially criminal law, for the following days:

September 12, 2003: The day on which the headlines in the New York Times read “federal appeals court in Washington yesterday rejected the Bush administration’s effort to avoid releasing documents about Vice President Cheney Energy Task Force.”

October 1, 2003: The day on which the Solicitor General argued to the Supreme Court that Vice President Cheney was entitled to keep all the details concerning his meetings with oil executives and their influence in his formulation of national energy policy confidential, including the names of the participants.

October 2, 2003: The day on which senior Congressional Republicans began a rewrite of key energy legislation behind closed doors and without involvement of Democrats—but potentially with the involvement of Vice President Cheney and oil executives involved in his secret energy task force.

October 3, 2003: The Senate approved a requirement that all future contracts to rebuild Iraq be granted on an open and competitive basis after airing open criticism on the closed and controversial process that resulted in multi-billion dollar noncompetitive contract awards to subsidiaries of Halliburton, the company which Vice President Cheney headed before he assumed office, and from which, under a deferred compensation agreement, he continues to receive more compensation than he receives from the Treasury for his services as vice president.

October 5, 2003: Publication of the findings of a task force studying the development of the Iraqi oil industry and its potential for funding the costs of the occupation of Iraq.

January 29, 2004: David A. Kay, the former chief American weapons inspector in Iraq, called for an independent inquiry into pre-war intelligence about Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs as skepticism about the administration’s claims about Iraqi WMD grows.

January 30, 2004: President Bush opposes an independent investigation of intelligence failures surrounding Saddam Hussein’s alleged weapons of mass destruction stockpiles despite increasing demands for one by some U.S. lawmakers.

January 31, 2004: Press reports focus on building speculation that an independent commission will be created to look into the White House’s basis for claims that Iraq had WMDs, accusations which were consistently led by Vice President Cheney.

February 15, 2005: Citing the threat exemplified by 9/11, President Bush urges Congress to re-authorize the Patriot Act.

February 16, 2005: An appeals court orders that two reporters who have refused to testify about their conversations with confidential sources regarding the leak that exposed the identification of CIA agent Valerie Plame should be held in contempt. It would later be revealed that both had conversations with members of Vice President Cheney’s staff.

May 23, 2005: Calls mount for the resignation of Tom Delay pending the outcome of an investigation into ethical violations. The Congressional and criminal investigation into Jack Abramoff widens to include long-time associate and fellow architect of the Republican takeover of the capital, Grover Norquist. The White House continues to obstruct efforts to identify who Abramoff saw in his hundreds of visits to the White House.

The missing Cheney emails fit a pattern that suggests intentional rather than accidental destruction. They all occur on days on which, considering contemporaneous press reports, the Vice President or his staff members were in the news and would likely have been communicating on the subjects relating to the press coverage. The most persistent themes are the outing of Valerie Plame and Cheney’s secret dealings with a group of oil and gas executives who were directly influencing national energy policy. The Empty Wheel has some excellent analysis of these points.

I keep wondering: have they checked that man-sized safe in Cheney’s office? Maybe he kept some copies there.

And in the meantime, Blimp TV offers a promotional videotape for the administration’s proposed new petroleum-based coinage.

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Markle

Markle
PkrBum wrote:She committed a criminal violation of the law... the only question is whether she will be treated as any of us would.

Not a chance. This corrupt administration will cover, stonewall, delay and turn a blind eye in the fervent hope they can get her past the election.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/07/jeb-bush-scott-walker-hillary-clinton-private-emails

Jeb Bush and Scott Walker among 2016 hopefuls who have used private emails

Hillary Clinton is in good company when it comes to the use of unofficial email accounts in office, even as she faces criticism from potential rivals

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Remember this? Jeb decided to release emails from his time as governor...six years after the fact...and managed to release sensitive personal information of constituents, such as SS numbers, addresses and phone numbers.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jeb-bush-redacting-sensitive-information-mail-dump/story?id=28891052

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"Hillary Clinton withheld Benghazi-related emails from the State Department that detailed her knowledge of the scramble for oil contracts in Libya and the shortcomings of the NATO-led military intervention for which she advocated.

Clinton removed specific portions of other emails she sent to State, suggesting the messages were screened closely enough to determine which paragraphs were unfit to be seen by the public. …

Clinton selectively edited other portions of emails she declined to provide to the State Department.

For example, in July 2012, Clinton removed paragraphs from a Blumenthal memo that warned “simply completing the election…and fulfilling a list of proper democratic milestones may not create a true democracy.” Blumenthal also wrote — in sections that Clinton deleted before providing the document to State — that the government would likely be “founded on Sharia,” or Islamic laws.

The group advocating to implement Sharia, Ansar al-Sharia, is a designated terrorist group that played a role in the Benghazi attacks.

But Clinton hid how much she knew about that development."

gatorfan


HRC, hmmmm. Failed attempt to create health care reform, very little activity of substance while a Senator in her borrowed state, involved in many shaky deals while Bill was a Governor, lied about her email (while castigating State Dept employees for the same activity), becoming more apparent she has lied about Libya, can’t remember any accomplishments as SecState, a large percentage of Americans don’t feel she is “trustworthy”, she is tied at the hip to Wall Street where she has made mega bucks giving speeches, her association with Clinton Global and enormous amounts of money contributed by foreign concerns while she was SecState raises conflict of interest questions, etc.

What is the attraction if not strict party bias? It’s a sad state of affairs when a name and money controls voter preference instead of substance.

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This details one of the many conflicts of interest where she reversed position after monies flowed to her fund.

http://www.ibtimes.com/colombian-oil-money-flowed-clintons-state-department-took-no-action-prevent-labor-1874464

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/top-10-clinton-conflicts-of-interest/article/2564035

2seaoat


becoming more apparent she has lied about Libya,

After years of political committee hearings to determine the same, please show me where any committee has found that Hillary lied about Libya.  I will patiently wait.

suggesting the messages were screened closely enough to determine which paragraphs were unfit to be seen by the public. …

So are you suggesting when those folks who screen for national security content that the should not be done "closely"...........too funny.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/30/politics/election-2016-jeb-bush-business/

Jeb Bush missed red flags in Florida business scandal

Hillary did Not Turn Over Emails Required by Law 150318173548-innovida-gallery-5-exlarge-169

Harlan Waksal sat on InnoVida's board with Jeb Bush. He was busted in a Fort Lauderdale airport trying to smuggle 2 pounds of cocaine in his underpants and luggage, but the conviction was overturned after the court ruled he was illegally searched...

Miami (CNN)There were plenty of red flags surrounding the company Jeb Bush was planning to join: lawsuits, bad headlines, even previously convicted drug dealers in top positions.

But somehow Bush seemed to miss them all in 2007 as he prepared to join InnoVida as a $15,000-a month-consultant -- a position that would lead to board membership and stock options.

Just months out of the Florida governor's mansion, the consulting gig with InnoVida would help Bush replenish his bank account after eight years in public service. It was also a chance for him to lend the credibility that comes with being the son of a former president and the brother of a sitting one to a home state start-up making what promised to be a revolutionary new building material.

But in reality, Bush was getting caught up with a smooth-talking CEO who would ultimately be sent to prison for more than a decade for running a $40 million investment fraud. Bush's ties to InnoVida and chief executive Claudio Osorio are resurfacing as the former governor considers a White House run.

READ: Jeb Bush fundraising is a family affair

A CNN investigation uncovered a paper trail revealing a pattern of financial malfeasance allegations against Osorio and troubling accusations against his top lieutenants, raising questions about why Bush would associate with businessmen who have such disconcerting histories. Bush's work at the troubled company is all the more notable considering he's built a political career touting his business acumen, boasting to voters in Iowa recently that he's actually "signed the front side of a paycheck."

"It's hard to imagine any due diligence investigation that would have missed lawsuit after lawsuit against Osorio alleging fraud, misrepresentation and ethics violations," said Ken Boehm, the chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, an ethics watchdog group that reviewed public records with CNN. "Even if they were doing due-diligence lite, they would have found the lawsuits. These lawsuits weren't hidden. They were in his home county."

Elite circles
Osorio traveled in elite circles. At political fundraisers and events at his multimillion-dollar Miami mansion, he chatted up the rich and famous, persuading them to invest millions in his company. He had the look of a successful entrepreneur, complete with a Colorado mountain house and a Maserati.

He even tried talking his way into the Oval Office, but had to settle for a 2009 meeting with President Barack Obama's personal assistant, according to court filings.

Osorio recruited Bush to the company because the political heavyweight would, as the Securities and Exchange Commission's complaint put it, "add an air of legitimacy to InnoVida."

Bush has never been accused of wrongdoing. He paid back more than half the $470,000 InnoVida paid him over his three years as a consultant and maintains Osorio deceived him and other board members.

"It is now obvious that Mr. Osorio deliberately misled a board of prominent business leaders about his company's dealings and that is why he is now in jail," Bush spokeswoman Kristy Campbell told CNN in an email.

Campbell has previously told reporters that Bush vetted the company before signing on as a consultant, visiting its factories in Miami and Dubai. And she told CNN that Bush hired a former federal law enforcement agent to conduct a background check on Osorio, which found "no red flags indicating criminal or financial wrongdoing."

It's a confounding explanation considering the allegations of shady dealings that had dogged Osorio and his associates for years.

Checkered pasts
Several top InnoVida officials have checkered pasts. One of the company's owners was convicted of cocaine trafficking in 1990. A decade earlier, a future board member was busted, accused of trying to board a flight from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, with a pound of cocaine in his underwear and another pound in his bag.

Before Bush started working at the company, at least three lawsuits were filed against Osorio that accused the businessman of financial wrongdoing and unethical behavior.

The most high-profile suit against Osorio was a 1999 class action he faced as chief executive of a Fortune 500 company called CHS Electronics. Shareholders sued Osorio, alleging securities fraud after the company collapsed.

In a foreshadowing of InnoVida's collapse, shareholders sued CHS and its executives, accusing them of misleading investors, artificially inflating CHS' stock price, overstating profits and income and fraudulently reducing expenses. The suit accused Osorio of personally manipulating the company's financial statements to show a profit, a practice referred to internally as "Claudio's magic."

Osorio and other CHS executives settled the suit for almost $12 million, but admitted no wrongdoing...

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Read the rest...it gets much worse.

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Claudio Osorio

Jebbie, like all the Bush family, is nothing but a crook.

gatorfan


Floridatexan wrote:

Jebbie, like all the Bush family, is nothing but a crook.

Whatever, this thread is about HRC. Who cares about Bush except you? You are obsessed with that whole family......

gatorfan


2seaoat wrote:becoming more apparent she has lied about Libya,

After years of political committee hearings to determine the same, please show me where any committee has found that Hillary lied about Libya.  I will patiently wait.

suggesting the messages were screened closely enough to determine which paragraphs were unfit to be seen by the public. …

So are you suggesting when those folks who screen for national security content that the should not be done "closely"...........too funny.

Those hearings are not what I'm talking about. She had knowledge of Libyan oil discussions and favoritism, rebel activity, and a failing state that she hid/deleted/whatever. It was not in her interest to bring that information out since she advocated for action in Libya and nothing turned out quite like she thought it would.

What's really funny is your defense of an individual with so much baggage (going back MANY years) who also happens to be running for President. Be careful what you wish for, Hillary will be Bush III.......

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Bush4... Obama is bush3.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:

Jebbie, like all the Bush family, is nothing but a crook.

Whatever, this thread is about HRC. Who cares about Bush except you? You are obsessed with that whole family......

If you would delve into their background, as I have, you would find their fingerprints on every major scandal in this country, including the aborted Bay of Pigs and the murder of JFK...but you won't. Anyone with any sense at all saw this coming...Bill Clinton's presidency was characterized by one invented scandal after another. He left "Poppy" in the dust, and you don't leave "Poppy" in the dust.

gatorfan


Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:

Jebbie, like all the Bush family, is nothing but a crook.

Whatever, this thread is about HRC. Who cares about Bush except you? You are obsessed with that whole family......

If you would delve into their background, as I have, you would find their fingerprints on every major scandal in this country, including the aborted Bay of Pigs and the murder of JFK...but you won't.  Anyone with any sense at all saw this coming...Bill Clinton's presidency was characterized by one invented scandal after another.  He left "Poppy" in the dust, and you don't leave "Poppy" in the dust.

Why should I? I think you have me confused with someone who cares about the Bush clan, I'm also not one to wear foil hats. The seniors are no longer in office and it's seriously doubtful Jeb will go the distance. As I said YOU are the one obsessed with the shrubs.

Now, do you any comments that might be relevant to HRC?

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