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I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night

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The Dude
TEOTWAWKI
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knothead
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The Dude

The Dude

Bob wrote:I just started reading it and it's already torture.  These people are about half literate.

Omg thats funny!

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

By the way,  if anyone else is masochistic enough to want to do this,  here it all is.

http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html

knothead

knothead

My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations. That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .

The Dude

The Dude

Bob wrote:By the way,  if anyone else is masochistic enough to want to do this,  here it all is.

http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html

Readings along interesting you. Throw  out the absurd accounts.

.".. he stopped and when he stopped, he didn't get on the ground or anything. He turned around and he did some type of movement. I never seen him put his hands up or anything. I can't recall the movement that he did. I'm not sure if he pulled his pants up or whatever he did, but I seen some type of movement and he started charging toward the police officer. The police officer returned fire, well, not returned fire, opened fire on Mr. Brown. If I had to guess the shots and the distance between him and Mr. Brown, it would have to be five to ten yards and the shots that were fired was four, five to six shots fired. Mr. Brown was still sanding up. My thoughts was ... is he hitting him? Because Mr. Brown, there was no reaction from him to show that he was hit.

After that Mr. Brown paused.

He stopped running and when he stopped running the police officer stopped firing. And then Mr. Brown continued, started again to charge towards him and after that the police officer ... I'm seeing him coming at an aggressive speed and just in charge mode toward the police officer ... I feel like the police officer he didn't have time to really react and holster his weapon and then reholster with a taser ..."



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The Dude

The Dude

knothead wrote:My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations.  That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .

I have never heard anyone who was in combat say they were not afraid even career Marine and special ops. Does that mean they were in the wrong business

The Dude

The Dude

Btw this witness account is 100 percent consistent with the police account

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

knothead wrote:My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations.  That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .


Oh please, that is the most ridiculous statement yohave ever made.....anyone involved in a life or death situation would fear for their own safety and their life.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-george-stephanopoulos-interviews-police-officer-darren-wilson/story?id=27173861

Sal

Sal

No remorse.

No regrets.

No conscience.

No justice, no peace.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/25/michael-brown-s-mother-speaks-after-verdict.html

Guest


Guest

The Dude wrote:Thats fucking absurd this kid/thug was only a victim of his. Own actions and decisions so ban me.

The thugs in Ferguson are no different than the thugs here who looted downtown after Ivan. The only thing after Ivan that stood between my buildings etc and them were loaded shotguns, it  is all they understand and if you don't think so you are one more fool

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGW42ntLymZhHHANuURkklNJSDJZTlKRFQU6Z72wO03Jnr1FoY

This was the point I was attempting to make with Seaoat on the subject of the embassy in Benghazi when I suggested that he open a store in Ferguson MO and provide no security. Of course he deemed not to respond to my suggestion by doing so.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOuUYcenW0

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The Dude

The Dude

And you snatch your rattling last breaths
with deep-sea-diver sounds,
and the flowers bloom like
madness in the spring.

Guest


Guest

knothead wrote:My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations.  That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYfkltMKQJZzJ2OPpS781ASvK4UFFqxewF3oPN9FVU2u0rsmZP

I see... So unless the police are all built like pro wrestlers and can whip most anyone's butts they're in the wrong kind of work and should seek other employment.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ljy6PTbX9I

Smile

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Damaged Eagle wrote:
knothead wrote:My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations.  That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYfkltMKQJZzJ2OPpS781ASvK4UFFqxewF3oPN9FVU2u0rsmZP

I see... So unless the police are all built like pro wrestlers and can whip most anyone's butts they're in the wrong kind of work and should seek other employment.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ljy6PTbX9I

Smile

Pray tell what about the cop girls.

Guest


Guest

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
knothead wrote:My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations.  That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .


I see... So unless the police are all built like pro wrestlers and can whip most anyone's butts they're in the wrong kind of work and should seek other employment.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ljy6PTbX9I

Smile

Pray tell what about the cop girls.

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlp98gVmyrBM4pMxkywxGwEuzeZ7-0MwlNIWBgvuOx3KvvH09C9g

There be girls in pro wrestling... I seen em'!

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkC1Nze-1CA

Smile

Guest


Guest

The Dude wrote:And you snatch your rattling last breaths
with deep-sea-diver sounds,
and the flowers bloom like
madness in the spring.

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSudw2cXgbj4GKSn90cYOIPert-1x3V785VI8nlug108CdtasOY_A

Yep!

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7-EEGiABBU

Very Happy

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Damaged Eagle wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
knothead wrote:My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations.  That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .


I see... So unless the police are all built like pro wrestlers and can whip most anyone's butts they're in the wrong kind of work and should seek other employment.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ljy6PTbX9I

Smile

Pray tell what about the cop girls.

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlp98gVmyrBM4pMxkywxGwEuzeZ7-0MwlNIWBgvuOx3KvvH09C9g

There be girls in pro wrestling... I seen em'!

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkC1Nze-1CA

Smile

Wow look at those muscles

The Dude

The Dude

Damaged Eagle wrote:
The Dude wrote:And you snatch your rattling last breaths
with deep-sea-diver sounds,
and the flowers bloom like
madness in the spring.

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSudw2cXgbj4GKSn90cYOIPert-1x3V785VI8nlug108CdtasOY_A

Yep!

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7-EEGiABBU

Very Happy

That's f----g poetry there!

Guest


Guest

The Dude wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
The Dude wrote:And you snatch your rattling last breaths
with deep-sea-diver sounds,
and the flowers bloom like
madness in the spring.



Yep!

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7-EEGiABBU

Very Happy

That's f----g poetry there!

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNir_aLathRNBvclVsrwS1ivE8PXJC51mU7KDES4sZ9-5mSpPH_A

I enjoy it!

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlpjL8PB-eI

Wink

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

I said a curse word when OJ got off..does that make me a bad white person ?

Guest


Guest

TEOTWAWKI wrote:I said a curse word when OJ got off..does that make me a bad white person ?

I am greatly disappointed that the Grand Jury decision to not indict was released at night - Page 5 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ03njKk_z5dp12KVeLkhcy8ZgOUd9fJfW0EtUNSQTDtLs52D7EMg

You're not the only one who doesn't have the progressive point of view. Just remember that when similar incidents are inverted that "there is no comparison" according to FT (post #13)....

https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t17409-brown-s-troubles-are-over-wilson-s-have-just-begun

So when they come to light your fires that's just the way it is...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_aMnV1uaCY

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Bob wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side/in/7041840

Officer Darren Wilson's story is unbelievable. Literally.

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/24/7175967/darren-wilson-charges-michael-brown-ferguson

Why Darren Wilson wasn't charged for killing Michael Brown

If only four of the grand jurors agreed that there wasn't enough evidence to indict, there would be no indictment.

Police have wide latitude when deciding whether a threat of force exists...it's up to the discretion of the officer.

"...McCulloch, the St. Louis County prosecutor, had a lot of discretion when it came to how to handle this case, and he used it in ways that experts said could have made an indictment less likely.


Instead of telling the grand jury what charges Wilson should face and letting the jurors hear from a detective or a couple of main witnesses, McCulloch chose to present them with every single piece of available evidence and hear every single witness — "every scrap of evidence," as he put it — and let them decide for themselves.

Alex Little, a former federal prosecutor who spent six years trying violent crimes, including homicides, told Vox's Amanda Taub in August that the strategy raised concerns about McCulloch's commitment to seeking justice in the case:

So when a District Attorney says, in effect, "we'll present the evidence and let the grand jury decide," that's malarkey. If he takes that approach, then he's already decided to abdicate his role in the process as an advocate for justice. At that point, there's no longer a prosecutor in the room guiding the grand jurors, and — more importantly — no state official acting on behalf of the victim, Michael Brown...


Then, when you add to the mix that minorities are notoriously underrepresented on grand juries, you have the potential for nullification — of a grand jury declining to bring charges even when there is sufficient probable cause. That's the real danger to this approach.

Kevin Curran, president of the Missouri Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, told Vox that the choice to use this tactic instead of presenting "an advocate's case" — which McCulloch could have done by arguing for one ore more specific charges against Wilson using a few key witness statements — made an indictment much less likely..."

"...And the sheer volume of evidence they heard made it more likely that they'd be left to grapple with the type of conflicting statements that could lead them to conclude that there was not probable cause that a crime had occurred, Curran said.

In an interview Vox's Amanda Taub conducted with David Rudovsky, an expert in police prosecutions, he explained that various stages of the criminal justice process — from being investigated by police peers, to being prosecuted by attorneys who work closely with police, to natural jury bias toward law enforcement — makes it rather rare for cops to go to jail for misconduct on the job. This plays out not just in Ferguson, but across the nation.

**********

(read the rest at site)





All we've ever heard about Grand Juries is that they will do anything a prosecutor wishes them to do which makes them an unnecessary exercise in rubber stamping whatever the prosecutor wants the outcome to be.

And now,  when a prosecutor presents ALL the potential testimony and evidence and actually lets a panel of citizens be the judge,  we're told the prosecutor SHOULD HAVE instead made the Grand Jurors be his rubber stamp.

This is all so surreal.  lol


Ever heard of a doc dump?

Vikingwoman



knothead wrote:My last post on this topic I SWEAR!

I want to say that many of our LEOs are not up to the task because of physical limitations.  That said, Officer Wilson stated he feared for his life and consequently took action that was fatal for what? Because he was scared?
Wilson chose the wrong line of work . . . .

If you're not scared then you're not human. Every officer is scared on those streets where anything can happen. The one's who not are scared are the one's who take chances and lose their life.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Floridatexan wrote:

Ever heard of a doc dump?  

Yes I have.  In fact last night I started to read the document dump.  But I didn't get far into it before my eyes started to bleed.  
So rather than keep reading it,  I will defer to bds on the witness testimony.  

I'm getting burned out with the tv coverage.  It's nonstop.  Time for me to move on to something else. Something which hopefully has nothing to do with race. I'm really sick of hearing about race.

nadalfan



Bob wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:

Ever heard of a doc dump?  

Yes I have.  In fact last night I started to read the document dump.  But I didn't get far into it before my eyes started to bleed.  
So rather than keep reading it,  I will defer to bds on the witness testimony.  

I'm getting burned out with the tv coverage.  It's nonstop.  Time for me to move on to something else.  Something which hopefully has nothing to do with race.  I'm really sick of hearing about race.

"“I guarantee you that every person of color in this country has faced an indignity, from the ridiculous to the grotesque to the sometimes fatal, at some point in their … I’m going to say last couple of hours.

Race is there, and it is a constant. You’re tired of hearing about it?

Imagine how ****ing exhausting it is living with it.”

Jon Stewart

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