No Surprise. Iraq and Afghanistan Vets have no RESPECT for President Barack Hussein Obama but Strongly Admire President George Walker Bush

Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.

How many thousand have been killed in Afghanistan since President Barack Hussein Obama took office?

This thread is not about MY respect, or lack there of for President Obama but rather the respect our fighting hero's have for him.  Which, is like most of the world, precious little respect.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.

How many thousand have been killed in Afghanistan since President Barack Hussein Obama took office?

This thread is not about MY respect, or lack there of for President Obama but rather the respect our fighting hero's have for him.  Which, is like most of the world, precious little respect.

Our "fighting heroes" have lives misspent by a government wholly-owned by corporations who care little more about America doing what's right, than they do for whichever party dominates in Washington.  Reality!!

Veteran soldiers who think Bush was a great president are as confused about reality as they were when they were told they would be welcomed by the people of Iraq.

The truth Herr Markle is that creeps like you are free to destroy our freedom -- for money.

You should be so proud of yourself ...

Karma wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.

How many thousand have been killed in Afghanistan since President Barack Hussein Obama took office?

This thread is not about MY respect, or lack there of for President Obama but rather the respect our fighting hero's have for him.  Which, is like most of the world, precious little respect.

Our "fighting heroes" have lives misspent by a government wholly-owned by corporations who care little more about America doing what's right, than they do for whichever party dominates in Washington.  Reality!!

Veteran soldiers who think Bush was a great president are as confused about reality as they were when they were told they would be welcomed by the people of Iraq.

The truth Herr Markle is that creeps like you are free to destroy our freedom -- for money.

You should be so proud of yourself ...

who do you think you are to pretend to know what soldiers are thinking or confused about?

facts are this generations military by the majority HATE Obama. And they respected bush because he made them feel like they had value, purpose and pride. now under Obama they are made to feel the lowest of scum, demoralized as the world laughs at our weakness. this has sent the suicide rates in the military higher than ANY TIME IN OUR HISTORY. The left should be so proud of its self.

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.

Don't confuse Markle with facts, Wordslinger. He even has a narrative (one of his famous cut-and-pastes [eyes rolling]) that somehow manages to blame Dubya's failure on 9/11 on Bill Clinton. Markle always finds a way to allow his fellow Republicans to weasle-out from any fault.

Here you go.  Once again for my Progressive good friends and your consternation.  PLEASE, instead of your childish games, prove what is NOT true in my post.  Grow up.  Try hard now.  Wordslinger has never even tried either.  He too just comes back with more childish name calling too.

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we had since?

Keep up the good work!  Wordslinger, God bless him, is on drugs but what's your excuse?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The headline's what you wrote Herr Markle.  Ones an "act of war."  The other's an attack of which "we had warning."

You want to run that by us again?  The Saudi terrorists committed an "act of war" when they took out the Twin Towers, yet it's somehow different with the terrorists who attacked our embassy in Benghazi.  But the aftermath sure looked a lot like war!

9-11 Occurred on Bush's watch.  Benghazi did on Obama's. Irrefutable facts.

The inferred implication is, of course, the failure to deter the 9-11 attack was Bush's fault, and the failure of our government's inability to protect the Benghazi embassy, is Obama's.

In one we've lost 3,000 or more Americans.  In the other we lost 4.

By these standards, Obama seems a helluva lot better for our country than Dubya.

Don't confuse Markle with facts, Wordslinger. He even has a narrative (one of his famous cut-and-pastes [eyes rolling]) that somehow manages to blame Dubya's failure on 9/11 on Bill Clinton. Markle always finds a way to allow his fellow Republicans to weasle-out from any fault.

Here you go.  Once again for my Progressive good friends and your consternation.  PLEASE, instead of your childish games, prove what is NOT true in my post.  Grow up.  Try hard now.  Wordslinger has never even tried either.  He too just comes back with more childish name calling too.

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we had since?

Keep up the good work!  Wordslinger, God bless him, is on drugs but what's your excuse?

Karma wrote:Sorry word and bob the truth does hurt the troops moral was higher under bush. All you need to do is look at the suicide rate now

I'm sure pacedog can give you insight as well since he is still in the military and my son got put last year and that was the deal

Karma wrote:Sorry word and bob the truth does hurt the troops moral was higher under bush. All you need to do is look at the suicide rate now

I'm sure pacedog can give you insight as well since he is still in the military and my son got put last year and that was the deal

Karma wrote:I was posting from my cell phone. My son got out of the military last year after serving his term. The military hates Obama. sure they all hate these wars too. but Obama sucks. he has been purging the military of its leaders and cutting and cutting and worse than that, they know he hates them. he changed the rule of engagement and made them sitting target practice for terrorist. He had done so early on and then again just recently.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/5/increase-in-battlefield-deaths-linked-to-new-rules/?page=all

suicide rates among the military is huge and it has increased under Obama.

and why wouldn't it? its bad enough to be sent into a war you may not agree with, but to not be able to win it or fight back is probably too much. then they took aim at not allowing them to have Christian faith.
and like it or not but a lot of people who serve in the military come from families that are Christian and patriotic. but now youre a threat if your Christian and patriotic. the list goes on.

not sure why you care anyway. you claim to hate both left and right oh wait, youre a liar and a socialist. so obubba is your booty boy too lol suck suck

Wordslinger wrote:

Karma wrote:I was posting from my cell phone. My son got out of the military last year after serving his term. The military hates Obama. sure they all hate these wars too. but Obama sucks. he has been purging the military of its leaders and cutting and cutting and worse than that, they know he hates them. he changed the rule of engagement and made them sitting target practice for terrorist. He had done so early on and then again just recently.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/5/increase-in-battlefield-deaths-linked-to-new-rules/?page=all

suicide rates among the military is huge and it has increased under Obama.

and why wouldn't it? its bad enough to be sent into a war you may not agree with, but to not be able to win it or fight back is probably too much. then they took aim at not allowing them to have Christian faith.
and like it or not but a lot of people who serve in the military come from families that are Christian and patriotic. but now youre a threat if your Christian and patriotic. the list goes on.

not sure why you care anyway. you claim to hate both left and right oh wait, youre a liar and a socialist. so obubba is your booty boy too lol suck suck

I care more about the direction of our sick, dysfunctional government than you do, evidently.

And since you have no history perspective, let me tell you that Vietnam's war vets faced the same issues:  They had to get permission to fire, they weren't allowed to win, etc. etc.

Nothing new here Karma.  Nothing at all.  And I don't give a damn whether our leaders are republican or democrat.  If they act to appease the MIC instead of real American defense objectives, I'll toss as much feces as I can their way.

Concerning our military and Christianity, you couldn't be more wrong.  Several generals profess to be Born Again Superheroes, and a few of them compared our troops in Iraq to Crusaders.  What utter bullshit and nonsense!

The Air Force has been cited as a bastion of whacko right wing Christian conservatism and several lawsuits were filed to curtail their madcap Christian proselytizing at the Air Force academy in Denver.

You couldn't be more wrong about our military or the government  "not allowing them to have Christian faith."

If I had my way, there would be no Christianity, Judaism, Catholicism or Islam.  
Religious nuts don't make good soldiers, never did.

You're right, I am a socialist.  Show me where I'm a liar big mouth, or shut the fuck up.

Karma wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Karma wrote:I was posting from my cell phone. My son got out of the military last year after serving his term. The military hates Obama. sure they all hate these wars too. but Obama sucks. he has been purging the military of its leaders and cutting and cutting and worse than that, they know he hates them. he changed the rule of engagement and made them sitting target practice for terrorist. He had done so early on and then again just recently.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/5/increase-in-battlefield-deaths-linked-to-new-rules/?page=all

suicide rates among the military is huge and it has increased under Obama.

and why wouldn't it? its bad enough to be sent into a war you may not agree with, but to not be able to win it or fight back is probably too much. then they took aim at not allowing them to have Christian faith.
and like it or not but a lot of people who serve in the military come from families that are Christian and patriotic. but now youre a threat if your Christian and patriotic. the list goes on.

not sure why you care anyway. you claim to hate both left and right oh wait, youre a liar and a socialist. so obubba is your booty boy too lol suck suck

I care more about the direction of our sick, dysfunctional government than you do, evidently.

And since you have no history perspective, let me tell you that Vietnam's war vets faced the same issues:  They had to get permission to fire, they weren't allowed to win, etc. etc.

Nothing new here Karma.  Nothing at all.  And I don't give a damn whether our leaders are republican or democrat.  If they act to appease the MIC instead of real American defense objectives, I'll toss as much feces as I can their way.

Concerning our military and Christianity, you couldn't be more wrong.  Several generals profess to be Born Again Superheroes, and a few of them compared our troops in Iraq to Crusaders.  What utter bullshit and nonsense!

The Air Force has been cited as a bastion of whacko right wing Christian conservatism and several lawsuits were filed to curtail their madcap Christian proselytizing at the Air Force academy in Denver.

You couldn't be more wrong about our military or the government  "not allowing them to have Christian faith."

If I had my way, there would be no Christianity, Judaism, Catholicism or Islam.  
Religious nuts don't make good soldiers, never did.

You're right, I am a socialist.  Show me where I'm a liar big mouth, or shut the fuck up.

facts are on this subject we agree. moral was better under bush. you agree with the topic and have professed that. anything else other than that is crap.

I care deeply for this country, to make the claim I don't is a lie.  Then do something to keep us out of meaningless, wasteful and un-winnable wars!

our country is being ruined form within by socialist like yourself.  Really?  You mean people like me are ruining the country, but big war-manufacturers who buy off our legislators democrat and republican are helping Amerika?  You've got to be kidding.

and yes, Im a big mouth