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Why not clean up Chesapeake Bay? Rick Scott joins lawsuit to block clean water plan...

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

The state of Florida has joined a lawsuit aimed at blocking a massive cleanup plan for Chesapeake Bay.

The Chesapeake Bay.

And, no, you can’t make this stuff up.

Last week, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi filed a brief — paid for with your taxes — attacking the legality of the Chesapeake Bay Clean Water Blueprint.

The plan was devised by six bay area states, the District of Columbia and the federal government. Its mission is to improve water quality in the rivers, streams and estuaries of the Chesapeake region.

A federal judge upheld the terms of the so-called blueprint, which will limit the amount of pollution being dumped, but the ruling is being appealed.

Why would the state of Florida try to obstruct the cleanup of public waters hundreds of miles away from our own? Because Bondi and Gov. Rick Scott are complete tools.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/08/3920357/muddying-the-waters-far-from-home.html?fb_action_ids=10202964592338925&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[269797446516738]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]#storylink=cpy

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Guest

they are suing because they are trying to stop the establishment of a new law about 'total daily maximum limits' of pollutants that can be deposited.

I don't know what those new limits would be, but apparently it would be counter productive to agriculture business here.

so again, they are suing to stop a new law on limits from being formed, not the clean up itself.

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othershoe1030 wrote:The state of Florida has joined a lawsuit aimed at blocking a massive cleanup plan for Chesapeake Bay.

The Chesapeake Bay.

And, no, you can’t make this stuff up.

Last week, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi filed a brief — paid for with your taxes — attacking the legality of the Chesapeake Bay Clean Water Blueprint.

The plan was devised by six bay area states, the District of Columbia and the federal government. Its mission is to improve water quality in the rivers, streams and estuaries of the Chesapeake region.

A federal judge upheld the terms of the so-called blueprint, which will limit the amount of pollution being dumped, but the ruling is being appealed.

Why would the state of Florida try to obstruct the cleanup of public waters hundreds of miles away from our own? Because Bondi and Gov. Rick Scott are complete tools.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/08/3920357/muddying-the-waters-far-from-home.html?fb_action_ids=10202964592338925&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[269797446516738]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]#storylink=cpy

.....federal laws apply to all states even if they are not needed "tool." What would be law there, would de facto become law here.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Love this:

"...A vote for either one of them is basically a vote for the Fertilizer Institute..."

Ain't it the truth?

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/08/3920357/muddying-the-waters-far-from-home.html?fb_action_ids=10202964592338925&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[269797446516738]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]#storylink=cpy

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Go to wewantcleanwater.com and sign the petition...rally in Tallahassee on February 18th. Also, like and share on Facebook. I wonder if a class action lawsuit could be filed against Scott and Bondi for misuse of taxpayer funds.

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Go to wewantcleanwater.com and sign the petition...rally in Tallahassee on February 18th.  Also, like and share on Facebook.  I wonder if a class action lawsuit could be filed against Scott and Bondi for misuse of taxpayer funds.

So far, Governor Scott has done everything and more than he promised. Unlike your messiah currently occupying the Oval Office. You hero was even named LIAR OF THE YEAR by a Progressive organization.

Given the reliability and who is doing the best for our State between you and Governor Scott. You're not even in the running.

Guest


Guest

Markle wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Go to wewantcleanwater.com and sign the petition...rally in Tallahassee on February 18th.  Also, like and share on Facebook.  I wonder if a class action lawsuit could be filed against Scott and Bondi for misuse of taxpayer funds.

So far, Governor Scott has done everything and more than he promised.  Unlike your messiah currently occupying the Oval Office.  You hero was even named LIAR OF THE YEAR by a Progressive organization.

Given the reliability and who is doing the best for our State between you and Governor Scott.  You're not even in the running.

I doubt she answers you. and if she does it will most likely be a rub and not anything of value.

seems like since othershoe found out the suit was because they are trying to prevent more stringent environment laws, nothing?

I realize people want good environment laws, but we do not want to kill off mass production of our food sources either.

seems like FT will follow this suit and defend the law without even knowing the impact on how we produce food just for political reasons.

rick scott has done a very fine job for our state. he may look funny, but he has done a very good job for us. I am going to support him 100% and stump for him. he makes sound policy decisions for our state. prove other wise.

polecat

polecat

Rick Scott's appointed a new finance chairman for his campaign last week: Miguel Fernandez. Congrats, Mike!

And Mike is feeling froggy: He just wrote a $1 million check to Scott's re-election committee. And yes, that's a preposterous amount from one person:


Before Fernandez, an individual had never given a check of $1 million or more to a candidate-aligned committee.
Now, who the hell donates that much money and doesn't expect something in return?
Well, as it turns out, not Mike. Mr. Fernandez obviously expected something-and boy did he get a freaking FANTASTIC deal for his "donation". From the same article:


Two companies partly owned by the finance chairman of Gov. Rick Scott’s re-election campaign [Miguel Fernandez] have won contracts worth potentially billions to serve Medicaid patients in regions across the state.
BOOM goes the dynamite! Make it rain

Guest


Guest

polecat wrote:Rick Scott's appointed a new finance chairman for his campaign last week: Miguel Fernandez.  Congrats, Mike!  

And Mike is feeling froggy:  He just wrote a $1 million check to Scott's re-election committee.   And yes, that's a preposterous amount from one person:


Before Fernandez, an individual had never given a check of $1 million or more to a candidate-aligned committee.
Now, who the hell donates that much money and doesn't expect something in return?
Well, as it turns out, not Mike.  Mr. Fernandez obviously expected something-and boy did he get a freaking FANTASTIC deal for his "donation". From the same article:


Two companies partly owned by the finance chairman of Gov. Rick Scott’s re-election campaign [Miguel Fernandez] have won contracts worth potentially billions to serve Medicaid patients in regions across the state.
BOOM goes the dynamite!  Make it rain

it would be impossible to say hospitals which scott has obviously knows people would not get medicaid contracts lol

boo hoo.... dont you have a picket to go to?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


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ZVUGKTUBM

Floridatexan wrote:

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Guest


Guest

Rick Scott's appointed a new finance chairman for his campaign last week: Miguel Fernandez. Congrats, Mike!

And Mike is feeling froggy: He just wrote a $1 million check to Scott's re-election committee. And yes, that's a preposterous amount from one person:


Before Fernandez, an individual had never given a check of $1 million or more to a candidate-aligned committee.
Now, who the hell donates that much money and doesn't expect something in return?
Well, as it turns out, not Mike. Mr. Fernandez obviously expected something-and boy did he get a freaking FANTASTIC deal for his "donation". From the same article:


Two companies partly owned by the finance chairman of Gov. Rick Scott’s re-election campaign [Miguel Fernandez] have won contracts worth potentially billions to serve Medicaid patients in regions across the state.
BOOM goes the dynamite! Make it rain
------
But George Soros can write checks larger for Obana and you think that is Ok ?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Rick Scott's appointed a new finance chairman for his campaign last week: Miguel Fernandez. Congrats, Mike!

And Mike is feeling froggy: He just wrote a $1 million check to Scott's re-election committee. And yes, that's a preposterous amount from one person:


Before Fernandez, an individual had never given a check of $1 million or more to a candidate-aligned committee.
Now, who the hell donates that much money and doesn't expect something in return?
Well, as it turns out, not Mike. Mr. Fernandez obviously expected something-and boy did he get a freaking FANTASTIC deal for his "donation". From the same article:


Two companies partly owned by the finance chairman of Gov. Rick Scott’s re-election campaign [Miguel Fernandez] have won contracts worth potentially billions to serve Medicaid patients in regions across the state.
BOOM goes the dynamite! Make it rain
------
But George Soros can write checks larger for Obana and you think that is Ok ?

I wasn't aware that George Soros held a government position in the Obama administration...oh, that's right...HE DOESN'T. Your boy Rick has shown himself to be every bit as corrupt as people tried to point out to you before the election. He is toast. Some Republicans are even smart enough to see it; sorry you and "." aren't.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Now someone here with a GOP affiliation tell me how this is a good use of Florida taxpayers' money...

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:The state of Florida has joined a lawsuit aimed at blocking a massive cleanup plan for Chesapeake Bay.

The Chesapeake Bay.

And, no, you can’t make this stuff up.

Last week, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi filed a brief — paid for with your taxes — attacking the legality of the Chesapeake Bay Clean Water Blueprint.

The plan was devised by six bay area states, the District of Columbia and the federal government. Its mission is to improve water quality in the rivers, streams and estuaries of the Chesapeake region.

A federal judge upheld the terms of the so-called blueprint, which will limit the amount of pollution being dumped, but the ruling is being appealed.

Why would the state of Florida try to obstruct the cleanup of public waters hundreds of miles away from our own? Because Bondi and Gov. Rick Scott are complete tools.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/08/3920357/muddying-the-waters-far-from-home.html?fb_action_ids=10202964592338925&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[269797446516738]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]#storylink=cpy

.....federal laws apply to all states even if they are not needed "tool." What would be law there, would de facto become law here.

Obviously the laws would apply here but who doesn't want clean water? Maybe the fishing charter captains don't want the ocean to become polluted? Perhaps a dead zone off the coast of Florida wouldn't exactly be a tourist magnet?

We need to get away from using the rivers as if they were a toilet that ran into another world, one that didn't impact the environment we all live in. We need to be better stewards of the planet and stop acting as if what we do doesn't matter because it does.

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Guest

othershoe1030 wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:The state of Florida has joined a lawsuit aimed at blocking a massive cleanup plan for Chesapeake Bay.

The Chesapeake Bay.

And, no, you can’t make this stuff up.

Last week, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi filed a brief — paid for with your taxes — attacking the legality of the Chesapeake Bay Clean Water Blueprint.

The plan was devised by six bay area states, the District of Columbia and the federal government. Its mission is to improve water quality in the rivers, streams and estuaries of the Chesapeake region.

A federal judge upheld the terms of the so-called blueprint, which will limit the amount of pollution being dumped, but the ruling is being appealed.

Why would the state of Florida try to obstruct the cleanup of public waters hundreds of miles away from our own? Because Bondi and Gov. Rick Scott are complete tools.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/08/3920357/muddying-the-waters-far-from-home.html?fb_action_ids=10202964592338925&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[269797446516738]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]#storylink=cpy

.....federal laws apply to all states even if they are not needed "tool." What would be law there, would de facto become law here.

Obviously the laws would apply here but who doesn't want clean water? Maybe the fishing charter captains don't want the ocean to become polluted? Perhaps a dead zone off the coast of Florida wouldn't exactly be a tourist magnet?

We need to get away from using the rivers as if they were a toilet that ran into another world, one that didn't impact the environment we all live in. We need to be better stewards of the planet and stop acting as if what we do doesn't matter because it does.

we all want clean water.

we also all want FOOD to eat.

now you can support the insane greenies who will kill us all and save the planet mentality. but you better stock up first.


In January 2011, the American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF) and Pennsylvania Farm Bureau (PFB) filed suit against the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) arguing that the federal government violated its own laws and regulations when establishing the December 2010Chesapeake Bay Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL).

Shortly after the original suit was filed, the following national agriculture organizations joined the lawsuit as plaintiffs: the Fertilizer Institute, National Pork Producers Council, National Corn Growers Association, National Chicken Council, U.S. Poultry and Egg Association and National Turkey Federation.

Numerous environmental groups and organizations representing municipal authorities asked for, and were granted, motions to intervene in the lawsuit in support of EPA’s actions on the TMDL. Environment Interveners include: the Chesapeake Bay Foundation, PennFuture, Defenders of Wildlife, Jefferson County Public Service District, Midshore Riverkeeper Conservancy and National Wildlife Federation. Municipal Interveners include: the National Association of Clean Water Agencies, Maryland Association of Municipal Wastewater Agencies, Virginia Association of Municipal Wastewater Agencies, Inc. and Pennsylvania Municipal Authorities.

The National Association of Home Builders filed a separate lawsuit against EPA on similar arguments. The Homebuilders and Farm Bureau joined efforts and asked the Court to combine the two cases into one. The court agreed.

After several rounds of written arguments between all parties, Farm Bureau and other plaintiffs filed a Motion for Summary Judgment, asking the Court to enter judgment for the Plaintiffs on the basis of the litigation record. EPA and their supporting interveners separately filed their own Motion for Summary Judgment. Both sides have fully completed the schedule of written legal briefs directed by the Court related to the motions. On October 4, 2012, federal court heard more than five hours of oral arguments on the motions.

At the October 4th court session in Harrisburg, attorneys for Farm Bureau and other plaintiffs presented arguments before Judge Sylvia H. Rambo. Farm Bureau attorneys argued the federal Clean Water Act gives states, not the federal government, the power to decide how pollution reductions in the bay will be met. Attorneys for Farm Bureau argued the Chesapeake Bay model used by the EPA to support the TMDL is flawed, and the EPA failed to provide sufficient information on the model during a legally required public comment period. Attending the session to show support were more than 30 PFB members, Farm Bureau staff from Pennsylvania and neighboring states, and AFBF.

Since the October hearing, the court granted a request for parties to file an additional legal brief on one issue that the court had particularly focused on during the court session. Both sides have completed their briefs.

The court must first rule on the motions for summary judgment before any additional action can take place in the lawsuit. Although it is difficult to say exactly when Judge Rambo will make a decision on the motions, many are hopeful she will be able to complete her review of the case and rule by the end of the year.

This is also a suit to where the federal government is overstepping its boundaries, as usual. Yes, a constitutional thing.

http://www.pfb.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=728:update-on-lawsuit-against-epa&Itemid=106

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Rick Scott's appointed a new finance chairman for his campaign last week: Miguel Fernandez. Congrats, Mike!

And Mike is feeling froggy: He just wrote a $1 million check to Scott's re-election committee. And yes, that's a preposterous amount from one person:


Before Fernandez, an individual had never given a check of $1 million or more to a candidate-aligned committee.
Now, who the hell donates that much money and doesn't expect something in return?
Well, as it turns out, not Mike. Mr. Fernandez obviously expected something-and boy did he get a freaking FANTASTIC deal for his "donation". From the same article:


Two companies partly owned by the finance chairman of Gov. Rick Scott’s re-election campaign [Miguel Fernandez] have won contracts worth potentially billions to serve Medicaid patients in regions across the state.
BOOM goes the dynamite! Make it rain
------
But George Soros can write checks larger for Obana and you think that is Ok ?

I wasn't aware that George Soros held a government position in the Obama administration...oh, that's right...HE DOESN'T.  Your boy Rick has shown himself to be every bit as corrupt as people tried to point out to you before the election.  He is toast.  Some Republicans are even smart enough to see it; sorry you and "." aren't.

Why not clean up Chesapeake Bay? Rick Scott joins lawsuit to block clean water plan... GeorgeSorosandObama-1

Markle

Markle

As our Progressive good friends here know and wish to keep under wraps is that the lawsuit concerning the Chesapeake are has to do with EPA, AGAIN overstepping their authority and TAKING control away from the states.

Something the Progressives love because they believe they are the only ones who are qualified to make decisions for the world. In their fantasies they see President Barack Hussein Obama as:

Why not clean up Chesapeake Bay? Rick Scott joins lawsuit to block clean water plan... DictatorUniform

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