reaper1948 wrote:Markle wrote:reaper1948 wrote:Markle wrote:reaper1948 wrote:Yes, why would he want to kill Medicare Advantage? This is not in the ACHA.
Please see the chart from President Barack Hussein Obama's Chief Medical Adviser, Er. Emanuel. That answers the question.
So where does it say he's going to get rid of Medicare on the AHCA? I googled his name, it doesn't even come up. Er Emanuel comes up as a hospital. The following come's up under Medicare for AHCA and nothing wrong with it:
Medicare creates a physician payment program aimed at rewarding quality of care rather than volume of services.
Now if you're a fan of the voucher Ryan plan this is what you need to consider: If a person 45 yrs old now get a voucher at age 65 for $15,000 a year to take care of his/her medical needs it will never be enough actuarially to pay healthcare costs when that person turns 65.
I am no longer surprised to learn how little Progressives know about the subjects they claim they are so concerned about.
1. Doesn't say he is getting rid of Medicare with ObamaCare, although, as you know, ObamaCare does slash $716 BILLION from Medicare. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel's plan simply provides little or no care to citizens the younger they are or the older they are.
2. The Ryan plan does not give "vouchers". But that's neither here nor there. What is offered, IF PEOPLE WANT, is the same subsidized choice of approved plans as is available to government employees in Washington.
3. IF ObamaCare's solution is to reward quality of care, instead of volume of care. Why are they planning on slashing the reimbursement to doctors and hospitals?
4. Here is information about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel. For some reason, he does not seek out the limelight.
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel and Obama’s Health Policy Adviser, announced a new “Complete Lives System” for selecting which sections of the population should be killed, in his article “Principles for Allocation of Scarce Medical Interventions.”.
“Such an approach accepts a two-tiered health system-some citizens will receive only basic services while others will receive both basic and some discretionary health services… Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”
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5. Without major changes, how will there be anything left for that hypothetical 45 year old you mentioned?
Where will this money come from? Please don't say the "RICH", they don't have anywhere NEAR this much money.
Current Debt . . . $15.3+ TRILLION Plus the $1.3 TRILLION proposed by President Barack Hussein Obama for 2013. (No budget approved)
Unfunded Liabilities (money we have PROMISED, do not have, nor do we have it coming in)
Social Security. . . . $15.4 TRILLION (10,000 Baby Boomers RETIRE EVERY DAY) (How many workers are entering the job market daily?)
Prescription Drugs .$20.4 TRILLION
Medicare. . . . . . . . $81.0 TRILLION
Total Unfunded Liabilities $116.8 TRILLION!
Number of Households in 2010 = 112,611,029
Unfunded Liability Per household $1,037,198.00
PLUS ObamaCare and Untold TRILLIONS more in TAXES
Since far left radical House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took office in January 1, 2007 our debt has increased by $6+ TRILLION.
FIVE+ TRILLION since President Barack Hussein Obama took office. With Obama promise of ANOTHER $1.3 TRILLION DEBT FOR 2013.
Why do Progressives DEMAND a far lower standard of living for our children and their children? What makes you so superior, so selfish that you think you deserve far more of what they will earn?
Saddling our children and their children with this massive debt is immoral, indefensible and, as we have seen, the Progressives here don’t even try.
A fixed amount of money given to one person is a VOUCHER. I think you better read is bill being introduced. If you want to saddle your kids and grandkids with this then you sir are the one that is selfish. The amount given in his bill was a VOUCHER of around $15,000, if your health insurance past 65 was less they would reimburse you pay the difference, if it is more then you will pay for it. Well since the average premium for a decent health plan today for a person age 64 is around $650.00 per month can you imagine when the first wave of seniors under what he proposed turns 65 in 10-12 years will have to pay extra over and above the VOUCHER? Insurance companies will have to come with similar under 65 products and price the plans. This is what will get rid of Medicare Advantage plans.
Your Medicare Advantage plan right now cost's the government approximately $10,000 a year in premiums. This what not an Obama plan.
I'm watching Ryan right now scaring the seniors at the villages saying Obama wants to get rid of Medicare Advantage plans and that is not the truth. He does want to cut a little off the premium the government is currently paying for you to the insurance companies.
It was fist introduced by Clinton and greatly expanded under Bush's Medicare act of 2003, that is why you have prescription drug coverage and Obama is closing your donut hole under obamacare so you won't have to pay so much.
By the way you assume I am an Obama fan, well you know what they say about people who assume. I am not a fan of his and was 100% behind Romney, until he picked Ryan who really has only introduced 2 bills in all his years in congress, never had a real job except congress and also lied about requesting stimulus money under Obama. But who knows I still may vote for Romney. At least Ryan will be out of congress and really with less power.
The republicans better start pushing the economy. They're focusing too much on Medicare and if they stay this course will lose the younger voters.
Oh btw Ryan just wrapped up the villages and his proposal for Medicare has changed a tad. They said he took the word VOUCHER out. You know all these politicians are full of shit. One more thing most of the republican congress does not seem to be a fan of his Medicare plan.
President Barack Hussein Obama's ObamaCare will slash $716 BILLION from Medicare. How does that NOT affect payments for Medicare Advantage, reimbursement for doctors and hospitals?
How does that help seniors?
Like all President Barack Hussein Obama other broken promises, he is blowing smoke. Knowing his base will swallow any amount of Kool Aid to keep the train of handouts coming.