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VectorMan

VectorMan
It was a very horrific thing to happen to those poor children, their families, the community and the country as a whole. I wasn't born yet either, but I've read about it and seen things on TV. It was awful on many levels.

Remember it. Never forget. Help make things better. Don't stir the pot just for the sake of it. But, alas, we have our guilty white liberals (and radical professional black race baiters) that think we should reshape the world to their views or everyone else is racist. What a load of crap! And they know it!

My Mom was born (1935) and raised on the block that Pensacola City Hall now occupies. To my understanding, the first racially integrated neighborhood in Pensacola. It was all good. They all got along. My Mom says they weren't allowed to ever use the N-word. Apparently you'd get a smack to the head if you did.

It didn't know BlueMoon was Cat. That explains a lot.LOL

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Mr Ichi wrote:LOL It was not a restaurant.  It was a mess hall.  We all lived together.  Ate, showered, worked, slept in same area.  We lived it.   Not just talk shit like you do.....

Well, Mr Ichi, I'd say then that you were being disingenuous to hint that it was a restaurant in a Southern Town that you and your black buddies were sitting in when nobody treated you badly.

I'd have to say disingenuous, because the only other word to use for what you posted was a lie.

So I'm guessing all the rest of your post about your dad using the MF words in front of you kids was most likely a lie too.
You were just funning us all, right?

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VectorMan wrote:It was a very horrific thing to happen to those poor children, their families, the community and the country as a whole. I wasn't born yet either, but I've read about it and seen things on TV. It was awful on many levels.

Remember it. Never forget. Help make things better. Don't stir the pot just for the sake of it. But, alas, we have our guilty white liberals (and radical professional black race baiters) that think we should reshape the world to their views or everyone else is racist. What a load of crap! And they know it!

My Mom was born (1935) and raised on the block that Pensacola City Hall now occupies. To my understanding, the first racially integrated neighborhood in Pensacola. It was all good. They all got along. My Mom says they weren't allowed to ever use the N-word. Apparently you'd get a smack to the head if you did.

It didn't know BlueMoon was Cat. That explains a lot.LOL

That's a rumor that's going around on this forum. You can either accept it or reject it. I don't have anything to regret and no one has said anyone should have to atone for anything. However, to claim this place wasn't totally racist in the 50's and 60's as Mr Ichi so disingenuously did by describing a mess hall meal- well, that is beyond ridiculous.

It defies history, and I hate historical revisionism.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni
Psychological projection is a defense mechanism in which a person attributes undesirable thoughts or feelings onto someone else...

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Joanimaroni wrote:Psychological projection is a defense mechanism in which a person attributes undesirable thoughts or feelings onto someone else...
I'm sure it is. However, if someone else actually IS an undesirable person who has extremely negative thoughts and who is extremely aggressive,  there's no reason to have to project anything onto them.

As you are, Ms.Kravitz.


What you are not is a psychiatrist or psychologist, because if you were, you would have noticed how totally fucked up some of your best friends are.
And maybe even what a complete sheeple you are to those friends.

LOL
I go it alone Gladys. I don't need no posse.

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I guess you missed  it when I said I was 21 years old, Not a Kid.  You dont think Mother Fucker was not a cuss word back then ?  Life was not like "Ozzie and Harriet." or "Leave it to Beaver"  Maybe where you lived but not at my house.  

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In January of 1964 I sat a table with a group of Black men. 4 months after the bombings. They did not hate me nor did I hate them.

Now where did I say I was at a restaurant? Or did you just Assume that it was?

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Life wasn't Ozzie and Harriet at my house either, but my father would have never used the words Mother Fucker in front of his young kids, nor even to an adult child. Son of a Bitch was my dad's favorite curse word, or phrase. That's about as far as he went.

My mother would have busted his chops.

If I had ever said it when I was a kid, I wouldn't be here to type on this forum  tonight.

No, as a matter of fact I didn't assume it was  a restaurant because I knew you'd be lying if  it was.  I know how racist the South was back then. If you read back, I specifically ASKED you if you were in the military and so were your so called black friends.  I did assume that you expected me to think it was  a restaurant though,  and that, my friend, is a more than logical assumption, based on the topic of conversation.

Which was racism in the South, not racism on a military base,where there are people from all over America.

You were being disingenuous, or lying.  I don't much care what you call it.

I'm pretty sure I know which it was. bTW, I had thought you were the poster who used to call himself Hallmark Grad on this forum. I'm assuming you're not, because that poster was not a liar.

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Joanimaroni wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:Posted 7 hours ago on Facebook
Yo! Mr xxxxx  I just finished a movie called Time Piece with James earl Jones as the only black actor in it and it made me feel very good and blessed to have you as my friend. We've only known each other for a few years but I feel that I've known you alot longer.

Not bad from a Black Guy to a Racist dude like me LOL
Its not necessary for you to try and prove you are not racist.

as far as this. Heres how I see it.

This just in: Hurry lefties make white on black racism important again. we cant let them forget. never ever let them forget. because when things become equal, we wont be as important again. pirat 

PS: I wasn't even born yet.

What kind of lame-ass excuse is that.Smile 



Get down on your knees and atone for the sins for which you were never a part of. Beg forgiveness from the forum member with one black friend....the one that still separates the races and does a black- white restaurant head count.
Yeah, I know im a bad person because I don't wanna go around in life holding onto regressive guilt I had nothing to do with. I have some weird connotation about just dealing with people as who they are as people on the inside. Im not sure where I got my affliction from.

But if it will get me in good graces with the racist, Ill explain that I have her/him beat in having more black near me than her/him so I win. Because I have 3 black cousins with 5 half black 2nd cousins and one half black niece who is pregnant with a 2/3 black baby. < this information alone makes me more black than president Clinton. Very Happy 

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Which was racism in the South,[b] not racism on a military base,where there are people from all over America.
LOL  You really dont know much about History.  The Army turned to Shit just as I got out.  We could see it coming.  Did not have a damn thing to do with the south.
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The Vietnam war saw countless numbers of America's young men - both black and white - thrown into combat. They were there to fight the Vietcong but, as tension grew in their ranks, they turned on each other.
James Maycock
The Guardian, Friday 14 September 2001
At the height of the Vietnam war in 1969, John Lee Hooker recorded I Don't Want To Go To Vietnam. In the song, he moaned grimly, "We've got so much trouble at home," before adding simply, "We don't need to go to Vietnam." But the black American soldiers already in Vietnam, trudging tirelessly across that country's saturated rice fields or creeping through its elephant grass and sticky, airless jungles, were understandably more explicit in expressing themselves. Wallace Terry, the Vietnam correspondent for Time magazine between 1967 and 1969, taped black soldiers airing their anger in the summer of 1969. Throughout the recording, their rage is tangible. Speaking about his team-mates, one black soldier declares, "What they been through in the bush, plus what they have to go through back in the world [America], they can't face it. They're ready to just get down and start another civil war." Another adds, "Why should I fight for prejudice?" When Terry inquires, "Tell me what you think the white man should be called?" a chorus of "devil... beast" erupts from the group.
Although President Johnson predicted that the Vietnam war would create a political nightmare, he neglected to foresee the racial one. The ongoing domestic conflicts between black and white Americans were reflected and exacerbated over in Vietnam, principally because the very apex of this increasingly unpopular war, between 1968 and 1969, coincided explosively with the rise of the Black Power era in America. In these years, there was a surge of inter-racial violence within the US forces in Vietnam. Discrimination thrived and, as in America, a racial polarisation arose out of this tension. Black soldiers embraced their culture as well as the emerging Black Power politics and its external symbols.

In fact, the war in Vietnam was America's first racially integrated conflict. Black soldiers had fought in all of America's preceding military engagements, but in segregated units. Although President Truman put pressure on the US armed forces to integrate in 1948, some units in the Korean war were still divided by race.

Prior to 1967, racial animosity had been negligible within the US armed forces in Vietnam because the black men stationed there were professional soldiers seeking a permanent career. Generally, if there were racial slights, they were quietly ignored by these men. On his first exploratory trip to Vietnam in the spring of 1967, Terry today concedes that he sensed "democracy in the foxhole - 'same mud, same blood'." Within a year, however, his feelings had been transformed.

At the beginning of 1965, there were about 23,300 US servicemen in Vietnam. By the end of 1967, this number had jumped to a phenomenal 465,600, the result of Project 100,000, initiated by Johnson in 1966. This dramatically increased the number of US troops in Vietnam by dropping the qualification standards of the draft. Many black Americans who had received an inferior education and, consequently, had evaded the draft, discovered, like Muhammad Ali, that they were now eligible. Of the 246,000 men recruited under Project 100,000 between October 1966 and June 1969, 41% were black, although black Americans represented only 11% of the US population. With a bitter irony, the other group that Project 100,000 condemned was the poor, racially intolerant white man from the southern states of America.

In a country riddled with institutional racism, the draft boards were naturally infected. In 1967, there were no black Americans on the boards in Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana. In fact, Jack Helms, a member of the Louisiana draft board, was a Grand Wizard in the Ku Klux Klan. In one fatuous outburst, he described the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People), the highly respected and conservative black civil rights group, as "a communist-inspired, anti-Christ, sex-perverted group of tennis-short beatniks". Although a poll in 1966 established that three out of four black Americans supported the draft, by 1969 56% of the black American population opposed the Vietnam war.

In 1967 and 1968, indignation against the war accelerated among both black and white Americans. Some thought the draft was simply a covert mode of genocide instigated by the US government, while others watched aghast as monstrous sums of money that could ease the impoverished black communities such as Watts in Los Angeles, were pumped into the war machine. The Black Panther, Eldridge Cleaver, denounced these repellent contradictions, stating that black Americans "are asked to die for the system in Vietnam, in Watts they are killed by it".

The perception that the Vietnamese were parallel sufferers of white colonial racist aggression also flourished in the late 1960s and was reflected in a comment made by Muhammad Ali on the TV programme Soul! "They want me to go to Vietnam to shoot some black folks that never lynched me, never called me nigger, never assassinated my leaders." Before his murder in 1968, Martin Luther King also damned America's foreign policy. He charged the US government with being "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today", and urged those against the draft to seek the status of conscientious objectors.

Although the image of a white hippy tentatively depositing a flower in the barrel of a rifle is one of the most potent icons of anti-war sentiment from the 1960s, black Americans also fought against the draft. Groups such as the Black Panthers and the SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) denounced the war, black Americans burned their draft cards in public and one man escaped to Canada, exclaiming: "I'm not a draft evader, I'm a runaway slave." Robert Holcomb, one of those interviewed in Bloods, Terry's oral history of the war by black veterans, describes how, after being hounded by the FBI, he was "sworn into the army in manacles". Like other young black Americans, he diagnosed the Vietnam war as "an attack on minority people, minority people being used to fight each other".

Robert Holcomb perhaps personified what Terry describes today as "a different breed of black soldier entering the battlefield" in the latter half of the 1960s. Terry adds that these hostile black recruits were "veterans of the civil rights movement or the urban upheavals, the riots in the streets. They were being told by judges: 'You'll either join the Marines or go to jail.' " In 1969, during a conversation with Terry, a black naval lieutenant stationed in Vietnam also characterised these black men forced to fight in southeast Asia as "a new generation". He added: "They are the ones who ain't going to take no more shit."

In the aftermath of Martin Luther King's assassination on April 4, 1968, black Americans rioted in more than 100 US cities. But in Vietnam many white soldiers flagrantly applauded his murder. At Cam Ranh Bay, a group of white men wore Ku Klux Klan robes and paraded around the military base. At another compound, the Confederate flag, so symbolic of racial persecution, was hoisted for three days. Don Browne, a black staff sergeant in Vietnam, overheard a white soldier protesting that King's image was always on TV. "I wish they'd take that nigger's picture off," the soldier said, a moment before Browne granted him "a lesson in when to use that word and when you should not use that word - a physical lesson". King's demise was, of course, a pivotal incident in the 1960s because it represented the switch from the nonviolent civil rights movement to the more militant and aggressive Black Power era. James Hawkins, a black soldier in Vietnam, understood this: "Dr King's death changed things, it made a lot of people angry, angry people with weapons."

At this stage, with the extraordinary increase of mostly reluctant troops - black and white - to Vietnam, covert and overt racism was now rife. The fledgling black American conscript was expected to endure the sight of the Confederate flag painted on Jeeps, tanks and helicopters, and sometimes encountered menacing graffiti, such as "I'd rather kill a nigger than a gook", scrawled on the walls in the latrines of US bases. Other grisly practices, such as cross burnings, were uprooted from Alabama and Mississippi to the war theatre of Vietnam, and some commanders tolerated Ku Klux Klan "klaverns" on their bases.

Young black soldiers also discovered that white soldiers, notably at Da Nang, repeatedly refused to pick up exhausted black soldiers in their Jeeps and that army barbers were not trained to cut black hair, although the merest hint of an Afro was penalised. In Terry's recording from 1969, one black sailor describes how, "when they caught a brother with an Afro, they just took him down to the brig and cut all his hair off and throw him in jail. All these beast motherfuckers walking around with their hair looking like goddamn girls and we can't wear our hair motherfucking three inches long." White officers were either sympathetic to or simply disregarded white soldiers who printed "Fuck the war" or "Peace" on their helmets, yet black Americans were disciplined for comparable offences. One black soldier was ordered to remove a "Black is beautiful" poster from the inside of his locker.

The post exchanges and libraries on the bases did not stock black hair products, tapes of soul music or books on black American culture and history. Magazines such as Ebony and Jet were also scarce, as one black private grumbled: "Every time a soul brother over here gets an Ebony or Jet, there is a waiting line of at least 30 to 50 soul brothers waiting to read it." Terry once stated, "If blacks can account for up to 22% of the dying, they should at least have 22% of the jukebox or the music on Armed Forces radio." Yet black American music was neglected by the Armed Forces Radio Network and in the enlisted men's clubs in preference for country music.

Today, Terry comments, laughing: "I find it amusing to see a Vietnam movie and the white guys are popping their fingers to black music. That just didn't happen. This is revisionism." In fact, Terry Whitmore, the author of Memphis-'Nam-Sweden: The Story Of A Black Deserter, witnessed a minor riot in the Freedom Hill post exchange at Da Nang after the manager of the beer garden, irritated by the number of black marines socialising there, promptly withdrew all soul music from the jukebox. But such incidents weren't confined to land. Off the coast of Vietnam, on the USS Sumpter, Captain JS Keuger also banned the music of the Last Poets, whose recordings included When The Revolution Comes. The affronted black sailors subsequently signed a petition, a fight erupted and they were charged with mutiny. Dissension over music resulted in a multitude of other brawls and Jet magazine reported that a white officer was killed in Quang Tri after ordering black soldiers to turn down their music.

Military justice in Vietnam was also rarely racially impartial. Black servicemen were frequently sentenced to longer terms than their white counterparts and, once inside a military prison, black Muslim inmates were refused copies of the Koran. During this period, one black marine pointed out, "The Corps says it treats all men just one way - as a marine. What it actually has done is treat everybody like a white marine." But, most disturbingly, black Americans were dying at a disproportionate rate and this only inflamed their indignation, as one black private remonstrated: "You should see for yourself how the black man is being treated over here and the way we are dying. When it comes to rank, we are left out. When it comes to special privileges, we are left out. When it comes to patrols, operations and so forth, we are first."

Their predicament was aggravated by a weakening in the chain of command. Many of the very young, naive white officers were incapable of diffusing the racial tension and, at times, white privates informed their superior black officers, including Allen Thomas, that they "weren't going to take orders from a nigger".

But, as the naval lieutenant informed Terry back in 1969, these black soldiers were "the ones who ain't going to take no more shit". The black Americans who were drafted from 1967 to 1970 called themselves Bloods, and many were influenced by the teachings and politics of Stokely Carmichael, the Black Panthers and Malcolm X.

Terry explains: "They would wear black amulets, they would wear black beads, black gloves to show their identity and racial pride." Some wore "slave bracelets" made out of boot laces and walked with "Black Power canes", sticks with the nub carved into a clenched fist. To offset the oppressive ubiquity of the Confederate flag, these soldiers flew black flags from their patrol boats and Jeeps. Another group of black servicemen, who were followers of Ron Karenga's US (United Slaves), created a flag that asserted in Swahili "My fear is for you". The "dap", a complicated ritualised handshake that changed from unit to unit , was also common among black personnel in Vietnam. Black privates and officers, too, acknowledged each other in public with a Black Power salute.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni
Chrissy wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:Posted 7 hours ago on Facebook
Yo! Mr xxxxx  I just finished a movie called Time Piece with James earl Jones as the only black actor in it and it made me feel very good and blessed to have you as my friend. We've only known each other for a few years but I feel that I've known you alot longer.

Not bad from a Black Guy to a Racist dude like me LOL
Its not necessary for you to try and prove you are not racist.

as far as this. Heres how I see it.

This just in: Hurry lefties make white on black racism important again. we cant let them forget. never ever let them forget. because when things become equal, we wont be as important again. pirat 

PS: I wasn't even born yet.
What kind of lame-ass excuse is that.Smile 



Get down on your knees and atone for the sins for which you were never a part of. Beg forgiveness from the forum member with one black friend....the one that still separates the races and does a black- white restaurant head count.
Yeah, I know im a bad person because I don't wanna go around in life holding onto regressive guilt I had nothing to do with. I have some weird connotation about just dealing with people as who they are as people on the inside. Im not sure where I got my affliction from.

But if it will get me in good graces with the racist, Ill explain that I have her/him beat in having more black near me than her/him so I win. Because I have 3 black cousins with 5 half black 2nd cousins and one half black niece who is pregnant with a 2/3 black baby. < this information alone makes me more black than president Clinton. Very Happy 



Oh great, now you are trying to wiggle out of being a racist.Laughing

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
Markle wrote:So long as we have race baiters like Floridatexan, Bluemoon, President Barack Hussein Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, Rev. Jerimiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Father Pflager, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr., King Samir Shabazz, Van Jones, Barney Franks, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Andre Carson, Shirley Sherrod…and others, we'll continue to have racism.  They cannot afford to let it die.

They act like nothing has changed in the past fifty years and they are all still victims.

Pathetic!
Get off my thread, asshole.

Sal

Sal
Chrissy wrote:

But if it will get me in good graces with the racist, Ill explain that I have her/him beat in having more black near me than her/him so I win. Because I have 3 black cousins with 5 half black 2nd cousins and one half black niece who is pregnant with a 2/3 black baby. < this information alone makes me more black than president Clinton.

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VectorMan

VectorMan
Sal wrote:
Chrissy wrote:

But if it will get me in good graces with the racist, Ill explain that I have her/him beat in having more black near me than her/him so I win. Because I have 3 black cousins with 5 half black 2nd cousins and one half black niece who is pregnant with a 2/3 black baby. < this information alone makes me more black than president Clinton.

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RACIST!

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Joanimaroni wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:Posted 7 hours ago on Facebook
Yo! Mr xxxxx  I just finished a movie called Time Piece with James earl Jones as the only black actor in it and it made me feel very good and blessed to have you as my friend. We've only known each other for a few years but I feel that I've known you alot longer.

Not bad from a Black Guy to a Racist dude like me LOL
Its not necessary for you to try and prove you are not racist.

as far as this. Heres how I see it.

This just in: Hurry lefties make white on black racism important again. we cant let them forget. never ever let them forget. because when things become equal, we wont be as important again. pirat 

PS: I wasn't even born yet.
What kind of lame-ass excuse is that.Smile 



Get down on your knees and atone for the sins for which you were never a part of. Beg forgiveness from the forum member with one black friend....the one that still separates the races and does a black- white restaurant head count.
Yeah, I know im a bad person because I don't wanna go around in life holding onto regressive guilt I had nothing to do with. I have some weird connotation about just dealing with people as who they are as people on the inside. Im not sure where I got my affliction from.

But if it will get me in good graces with the racist, Ill explain that I have her/him beat in having more black near me than her/him so I win. Because I have 3 black cousins with 5 half black 2nd cousins and one half black niece who is pregnant with a 2/3 black baby. < this information alone makes me more black than president Clinton. Very Happy 

Oh great, now you are trying to wiggle out of being a racist.Laughing
Now hold on a minute. I have more. Just let me explain. I had some very close friends too, and it was more than just one like moon. See when I lived in Ga, down the road from me was my very best of best friends. A black husband and wife, they had 3 children. I owned a grocery store and he would hunt a lot. We would cook out and he once made me eat raccoon. What a Face They were so awesome, other than eating raccoon that is. They taught me how to cook a pig in the ground. We had a huge party. about 50 of us, me and my gf and kid at the time being the only whites there. What those women did with those pigs after they cooked and me and the men sat around the fire and drank wine all night was amazing. they did not waste anything. brains, intestines =sauage and hog head cheese, etc etc. These people were older.

point of my story other than trying to get out of being a racist is not a damn thing( because they wont let me ) LOL... I just wanted to tell the story. it was a cool thing to see.

tongue 

oh yeah and there was.... silent 

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni
Chrissy wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:Posted 7 hours ago on Facebook
Yo! Mr xxxxx  I just finished a movie called Time Piece with James earl Jones as the only black actor in it and it made me feel very good and blessed to have you as my friend. We've only known each other for a few years but I feel that I've known you alot longer.

Not bad from a Black Guy to a Racist dude like me LOL
Its not necessary for you to try and prove you are not racist.

as far as this. Heres how I see it.

This just in: Hurry lefties make white on black racism important again. we cant let them forget. never ever let them forget. because when things become equal, we wont be as important again. pirat 

PS: I wasn't even born yet.
What kind of lame-ass excuse is that.Smile 



Get down on your knees and atone for the sins for which you were never a part of. Beg forgiveness from the forum member with one black friend....the one that still separates the races and does a black- white restaurant head count.
Yeah, I know im a bad person because I don't wanna go around in life holding onto regressive guilt I had nothing to do with. I have some weird connotation about just dealing with people as who they are as people on the inside. Im not sure where I got my affliction from.

But if it will get me in good graces with the racist, Ill explain that I have her/him beat in having more black near me than her/him so I win. Because I have 3 black cousins with 5 half black 2nd cousins and one half black niece who is pregnant with a 2/3 black baby. < this information alone makes me more black than president Clinton. Very Happy 

Oh great, now you are trying to wiggle out of being a racist.Laughing
Now hold on a minute. I have more. Just let me explain. I had some very close friends too, and it was more than just one like moon. See when I lived in Ga, down the road from me was my very best of best friends. A black husband and wife, they had 3 children. I owned a grocery store and he would hunt a lot. We would cook out and he once made me eat raccoon. What a Face They were so awesome, other than eating raccoon that is. They taught me how to cook a pig in the ground. We had a huge party. about 50 of us, me and my gf and kid at the time being the only whites there. What those women did with those pigs after they cooked and me and the men sat around the fire and drank wine all night was amazing. they did not waste anything. brains, intestines =sauage and hog head cheese, etc etc. These people were older.

point of my story other than trying to get out of being a racist is not a damn thing( because they wont let me ) LOL... I just wanted to tell the story. it was a cool thing to see.

tongue 

oh yeah and there was.... silent 

Maybe you can slide this time....only because it was a cool story. The tell tale sign of not being a racist is to only have one black friend.

Sal

Sal
No, that's not it.

Markle

Markle
Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:So long as we have race baiters like Floridatexan, Bluemoon, President Barack Hussein Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, Rev. Jerimiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Father Pflager, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr., King Samir Shabazz, Van Jones, Barney Franks, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Andre Carson, Shirley Sherrod…and others, we'll continue to have racism.  They cannot afford to let it die.

They act like nothing has changed in the past fifty years and they are all still victims.

Pathetic!
Get off my thread, asshole.
What did I post which is not true? I realize how it might sting but which of those would be where they are today without racism?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
Markle wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:So long as we have race baiters like Floridatexan, Bluemoon, President Barack Hussein Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, Rev. Jerimiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Father Pflager, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr., King Samir Shabazz, Van Jones, Barney Franks, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Andre Carson, Shirley Sherrod…and others, we'll continue to have racism.  They cannot afford to let it die.

They act like nothing has changed in the past fifty years and they are all still victims.

Pathetic!
Get off my thread, asshole.


What did I post which is not true?  I realize how it might sting but which of those would be where they are today without racism?
Are you even capable of writing anything without turning it into hyperpartisan BS?...and/or insults??

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I'd say that as long as a white southerner cannot mention having a friend who is black who has experienced racial discrimination  without having other Southerners pop in and claim they're  just "bragging" about having a black friend, racism exists.   It exists big time on this forum,

I understand the old joke about a  racist claiming to have a black friend to hide the fact that he's racist, and I fully expected that response from several of you on the forum. Especially considering how childish about half the people on here are.  However, since the topic was whether things have changed in the last 50 years, it was  perfectly reasonable to mention an incident of discrimination that I witnessed personally, in just the last few years.

That some of you cannot understand that is way more telling about you than it is about me. This is the 21st century.  Nobody is "bragging" about having a black friend. A lot of people have black friends and black neighbors. Most of our children have close friends who may be black, or gay, or who may have purple or green hair. I suppose they're not allowed to mention their friends in a conversation, or they're somehow prejudiced or even bragging.   That's  moronic and idiotic, but then,like I said, at least half of you fit into that category.
Some people on here have a lot of growing up to do. They should try and grow up at least as much  as their children have.

I actually understand though. It's a touchy subject when you know how you actually do think but are trying to hide  it with a joke. Anything to change the subject to something more comfortable, right?
It's never comfortable to think that in only as far back as our own parents generation there were white people here in this part of the country, and a lot of them, that really didn't give a damn when a black child was killed by a bomb. I knew a lot of those people when I was a kid, and so  did every other person who grew up when I did in this part of the country.

Because there were more fucking people here in the South that thought that way back then than  there were in other parts of the country, and for what it's worth, there still are.  How do I know- because of the people like Trent Lott that they put into office.



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Nekochan

Nekochan
Many young people today have lots of friends from all walks of life, all colors, orientations, etc.   I don't know that they usually describe their friends or talk about them as being their purple headed friend, their gay friend, their black friend, their white friend, etc.   They are just all friends.

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Guest
When the subject is discrimination against black people and they have witnessed discrimination against a black person, Yes, they would pretty much have to mention that the subject was black.

You're ridiculous.

Read the topic of the thread moron. It's not generic.

It is specifically about discrimination against black people.

Nobody killed those little girls because they were Asians or white,did  they?
AND FYI, I believe you said something about some prejudice against some Asian friends in New Orleans. Were you bragging about having Asian friends?

I don't have any Asian friends. I'm so Jealous of you,  and you are SO TOLERANT to have those people as friends.  Wonderful Nekochan. You are no doubt a better person than the rest of us.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni
bluemoon wrote:I'd say that as long as a white southerner cannot mention having a friend who is black who has experienced racial discrimination  without having6 other Southerners pop in and claim they're  just "bragging" about having a black friend, racism exists.   It exists big time on this forum,

I understand the old joke about a  racist claiming to have a black friend to hide the fact that he's racist, and I fully expected that response from several of you on the forum. Especially considering how childish about half the people on here are.  However, since the topic was whether things have changed in the last 50 years, it was  perfectly reasonable to mention an incident of discrimination that I witnessed personally, in just the last few years.

That some of you cannot understand that is way more telling about you than it is about me. This is the 21st century.  Nobody is "bragging" about having a black friend. A lot of people have black friends and black neighbors. Most of our children have close friends who may be black, or gay, or who may have purple or green hair. I suppose they're not allowed to mention their friends in a conversation, or they're somehow prejudiced or even bragging.   That's  moronic and idiotic, but then,like I said, at least half of you fit into that category.
Some people on here have a lot of growing up to do. They should try and grow up at least as much  as their children have.

I actually understand though. It's a touchy subject when you know how you actually do think but are trying to hide  it with a joke. Anything to change the subject to something more comfortable, right?
It's never comfortable to think that in only as far back as our own parents generation there were white people here in this part of the country, and a lot of them, that really didn't give a damn when a black child was killed by a bomb. I knew a lot of those people when I was a kid, and so  did every other person who grew up when I did.


Cat, you are the joke. So why not drop the lecture along with your holier than thou attitude.

You still don't get it; bragging about having a black friend .

In this day and age, non- racist people normally have more than one black friend. 


Hate to break the news to you....but we are friends with several black families and have numerous black friends. I do, however, think it is nice that you have a black friend. You have progressed from the way you were.

Nekochan

Nekochan
bluemoon wrote:When the subject is discrimination against black people and they have witnessed discrimination against a black person, Yes, they would pretty much have to mention that the subject was black.

You're ridiculous.

Read the topic of the thread moron. It's not generic.

It is specifically about discrimination against black people.

Nobody killed those little girls because they were Asians or white,did  they?
AND FYI, I believe you said something about some prejudice against some Asian friends in New Orleans. Were you bragging about having Asian friends?

I don't have any Asian friends. I'm so Jealous of you,  and you are SO TOLERANT to have those people as friends.  Wonderful Nekochan. You are no doubt a better person than the rest of us.


The thread is about the horrible bombing and murder of innocent girls by some evil, racist men 50 years ago. 

When you mentioned young people and their experiences with their friends today....I am saying that in my experience with my kids and other young people that I know,  they don't describe their friends in the manner in which you posted.   They just say "my friend....."  

Young people didn't experience life in the 1960s so they don't compare or differentiate life from back then.

But thank goodness they have you to tell them all about it.  Again and again and again...and about how you and your family were so great and non-racist and different from all the other horrible southerners.

Guest


Guest
Joanimaroni wrote:
bluemoon wrote:I'd say that as long as a white southerner cannot mention having a friend who is black who has experienced racial discrimination  without having6 other Southerners pop in and claim they're  just "bragging" about having a black friend, racism exists.   It exists big time on this forum,

I understand the old joke about a  racist claiming to have a black friend to hide the fact that he's racist, and I fully expected that response from several of you on the forum. Especially considering how childish about half the people on here are.  However, since the topic was whether things have changed in the last 50 years, it was  perfectly reasonable to mention an incident of discrimination that I witnessed personally, in just the last few years.

That some of you cannot understand that is way more telling about you than it is about me. This is the 21st century.  Nobody is "bragging" about having a black friend. A lot of people have black friends and black neighbors. Most of our children have close friends who may be black, or gay, or who may have purple or green hair. I suppose they're not allowed to mention their friends in a conversation, or they're somehow prejudiced or even bragging.   That's  moronic and idiotic, but then,like I said, at least half of you fit into that category.
Some people on here have a lot of growing up to do. They should try and grow up at least as much  as their children have.

I actually understand though. It's a touchy subject when you know how you actually do think but are trying to hide  it with a joke. Anything to change the subject to something more comfortable, right?
It's never comfortable to think that in only as far back as our own parents generation there were white people here in this part of the country, and a lot of them, that really didn't give a damn when a black child was killed by a bomb. I knew a lot of those people when I was a kid, and so  did every other person who grew up when I did.

Cat, you are the joke. So why not drop the lecture along with your holier than thou attitude.

You still don't get it; bragging about having a black friend .

In this day and age, non- racist people normally have more than one black friend. 


Hate to break the news to you....but we are friends with several black families and have numerous black friends. I do, however, think it is nice that you have a black friend. You have progressed from the way you were.

Nobody was bragging Mrs. Kravitz, as I just explained. I have several black friends, but only ONE was with me that day. Now what is your answer to your best friend on this forum, Nekochan, talking about all those Asian friends she has. Is she bragging? Damned sure sounds like it to me. Or could she just have been talking about racial discrimination, which I was and which everyone else in the discussion was doing.

You make a horse's ass of yourself Mrs Kravitz, when all you do is follow your buddy around and try to pick up her shit when she screws up. Did you know that? Some people actually think you're a joke.

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