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Once Again Putin Kicks Obama's Ass

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Markle
Hospital Bob
Joanimaroni
VectorMan
2seaoat
TEOTWAWKI
gulfbeachbandit
Wordslinger
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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

What the Russians want is more influence in the Mideast, and less American influence. Plus a valuable sea base for their navy in the Mediterranean. Assad's their guy.

So, understanding Obama was in a bind and struggling to get an OK from congress, and picking up on Kerry's sarcastic remark that the only thing that would stop an American punitive strike would be if Syria turned over ALL it's chemical weapons to the international community -- which Kerry, obviously, never dreamed Assad would actually do -- Putin took the spotlight and said Russia would take all of Syria's chem weapons, with international community witnesses to assure the deed was done.

Thus Putin (who used to be head of the Soviet KGB) both kicked and saved Obama's ass; as Obama leaped at the opportunity to get out of the corner he had put himself in.

The deal, of course, won't in the least hinder Assad's ability to stay in power -- particularly when it is beginning to appear ever more clearly that it was the rebels who effected the Sarin nerve gas attack. Obama's critics in congress who have viewed both the unclassified and classified "evidence" Obama's team put together say that there was absolutely no real evidence linking Assad or his regime to the gas attack -- our intel, once again (remember Iraq?), is totally speculative and based on hunches.

What do we get? We get to shut down a new war before it started, and Obama will take credit for his push to war being the fuel for the solution.

What does Assad get? No USA attack, with continued support from Russia and Iran.

What does Russia get -- applause and continued access for its navy at a base on Syria's coast -- plus world class recognition for its "diplomacy."

As long as we didn't spend zillions to kill Syrians for killing Syrians in a way we don't approve of, I call it victory!

Reality.

gulfbeachbandit

gulfbeachbandit

Putin is playing chess while obama is playing checkers.

Tonights speech will start with "good evening fellow comrades. I mean fellow Americans. Damned teleprompter.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Oh come on seaoat said Obama was playing a masterful game of Brinksmanship how can this be? Looks like Putin cleaned up and put the puppy back in the box after it pooped in the kitchen....LOL

2seaoat



Heeeeee Hawwwwww some people simply have little or no grasp on the historical framework of Syria, and what just happened. Where are the bombs.......Oh, so the analysis is that Putin in his tiny five five frame, teamed with Tom Cruise, both shirtless riding with swords to the rescue, saved President Obama. Some claim Putin is playing chess. Putin is maximizing protection of his natural gas hegemony over western Europe which I posted weeks ago. We elect folks who hopefully have the mental capacity to deal with Diplomacy. There are some folks on this forum who utterly underestimate the abilities of our leadership, and attach silliness to our opponents.

It was plain and simple diplomacy from the start where President Obama executed a perfect bluff which accomplished multiple goals including but not limited bringing out the Donkeys. It never was a zero sum game......people need to watch empire boardwalk, or better yet pay attention to some 7th graders shunning a classmate to better understand social psychology and small group leadership. This was never about bombs, chemical gas, or drawing red lines. It was about oil and natural gas, the 2014 election cycle, and letting the turds float to the surface........mission accomplished.

2seaoat



Oh come on seaoat said Obama was playing a masterful game of Brinksmanship how can this be? Looks like Putin cleaned up and put the puppy back in the box after it pooped in the kitchen....LOL


T.....do you remember the whisper in the 2008 campaign.....you of all people I would think could respect what has just been pulled off, but if you cannot even understand this simple strategy, I suspect the complex alleged conspiracies we hear about are really the surface portrayal...........Obama set the table for this long ago.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

2seaoat wrote:Heeeeee Hawwwwww some people simply have little or no grasp on the historical framework of Syria, and what just happened.  Where are the bombs.......Oh, so the analysis is that Putin in his tiny five five frame, teamed with Tom Cruise, both shirtless riding with swords to the rescue, saved President Obama.   Some claim Putin is playing chess.  Putin is maximizing protection of his natural gas hegemony over western Europe which I posted weeks ago.  We elect folks who hopefully have the mental capacity to deal with Diplomacy.   There are some folks on this forum who utterly underestimate the abilities of our leadership, and attach silliness to our opponents.

It was plain and simple diplomacy from the start where President Obama executed a perfect bluff which accomplished multiple goals including but not limited bringing out the Donkeys.  It never was a zero sum game......people need to watch empire boardwalk, or better yet pay attention to some 7th graders shunning a classmate to better understand social psychology and small group leadership.  This was never about bombs, chemical gas, or drawing red lines.  It was about oil and natural gas, the 2014 election cycle, and letting the turds float to the surface........mission accomplished.
Well at least you won't drown next flood cause you are soooo full of it.

2seaoat



Well at least you won't drown next flood cause you are soooo full of it.




After three weeks of reading your posts how the bankers were going to bomb Syria, and it was a done deal, and after weeks of folks attacking me because I called it exactly like it was, a classic international relations bluff, and brilliant political manipulation on the domestic front, I see you have bought into your hollywood creation where you post the tough guy Putin shirtless going to kick asz and come riding into the fray and save the day.....Putin and your entire fantasy which involved Putin in his KGB assignment shaking down university students......is as absurd as your predictions on this event and series of events. In the end, when playing poker with donkeys.........you take their chips.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Putin was a better man than even I imagined. Obama lost public support except for a few crazies like yourself seagloat. Otherwise the bombs would have fallen. US Mainstream media couldn't even save the puppies ass. It took a world class leader(Putin) to do that. Obama should just lick Putin's hand and take the biscuit as offered.

VectorMan

VectorMan

Is this the week America lost it's superpower status?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Looks like we are down to Puppy Power. right Scooby ? Rutt Ro

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Here are my thoughts I posted under another thread topic....

Obama has now been seen by world leaders for what he is..... His lies regarding Benghazi and a the list of scandals hurt his credibility and has shown his lack of leadership. He is not a man to be respected or feared by allies and adversaries. World leaders recognize failure of strong leadership.

Obama cannot keep top military advisors that have established and proven records worldwide. Robert Gates, David Petraeus, Paul Volcker, Richard Holbrooke, James Mattis, Stanley McChrystal  were mistreated or not fully utilized. Obama surrounded himself with  a host of mediocre at best, partisans with a loyalty to him....Eric Holder, Joe Biden, Susan Rice, Timothy Geithner, Chuck Hagel, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.

2seaoat



He is now sitting with four aces, and folks want to talk about the respect of the other poker players. We never had any problem with respect.....they always expected us to react like a donkey........surprise surprise. No bombs.....no nuting honey.......They are rushing to publish the newest addition of diplomacy for dummies, but damn.....the donkeys at em......

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Guest

2seaoat wrote:He is now sitting with four aces, and folks want to talk about the respect of the other poker players. We never had any problem with respect.....they always expected us to react like a donkey........surprise surprise. No bombs.....no nuting honey.......They are rushing to publish the newest addition of diplomacy for dummies, but damn.....the donkeys at em......
lol... learn to read the cards. Assad stays in power... Putin/Russia win. Obama was going to back religious extremists (that he's already been arming) like in libya, egypt... etc. The deal now requires next to no burden from Assad or russia... look closely at the result.

The action basically went: bluff/call... minimum raise/call... check/check... bluff shown... Russia takes pot.

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VectorMan wrote:Is this the week America lost it's superpower status?
YES

its change they can believe in. Evil or Very Mad 

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

2seaoat wrote:He is now sitting with four aces
But you've said all along that he's bluffing. I'm no expert on poker and usually lose, but how do you bluff when you're holding four aces? lol

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Sealant I posted the link about the gasometer, not u

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Guest

Bob wrote:
2seaoat wrote:He is now sitting with four aces
But you've said all along that he's bluffing.  I'm no expert on poker and usually lose,  but how do you bluff when you're holding four aces?   lol

You can just make shit up as you go like seaoat when youre full of shit.

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Guest

2seaoat wrote:He is now sitting with four aces, and folks want to talk about the respect of the other poker players.   We never had any problem with respect.....they always expected us to react like a donkey........surprise surprise.  No bombs.....no nuting honey.......They are rushing to publish the newest addition of diplomacy for dummies, but damn.....the donkeys at em......
Once Again Putin Kicks Obama's Ass Th?id=H.4784263974291241&w=271&h=178&c=7&rs=1&pid=1

So in your version of great diplomacy thousands have to die to allow the ones that you say actually bombed them look good on an international scale with approval of the president of the United States.

Does that about sum it up?

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3orQKBxiEg

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

This is what happens when inexperienced players like obama attempt to bluff.

Guest


Guest

Bob... although that bluff by dwan ran into a hand... the dude is a sick high stakes cash game specialist. Wildly unpredictable.

He started online about the time I did... he was known as durrr.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

PkrBum wrote:Bob... although that bluff by dwan ran into a hand... the dude is a sick high stakes cash game specialist. Wildly unpredictable.

He started online about the time I did... he was known as durrr.
I've never left a poker table yet with any money left in my pocket. Alcohol and poker are not a good combination. lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

PkrBum wrote:Bob... although that bluff by dwan ran into a hand... the dude is a sick high stakes cash game specialist. Wildly unpredictable.

He started online about the time I did... he was known as durrr.
Holy shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Dwan#Live_cash_games

This led to one of the most memorable bluffs in television poker when Dwan bet $479,500 on the river, all in, into a pot of only $162,000. Dwan was bluffing with 7-2 against George’s two pair (aces and sixes). George folded his two pair after much consideration even though Dwan, after making a 6x pre-flop raise, had said he had 7-2 and just wanted the blinds. George went on to lose $750,000.[30]

Dwan made a final profit of $795,500 after winning 2 of the 3 matches.

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Guest

PkrBum wrote:
2seaoat wrote:He is now sitting with four aces, and folks want to talk about the respect of the other poker players.   We never had any problem with respect.....they always expected us to react like a donkey........surprise surprise.  No bombs.....no nuting honey.......They are rushing to publish the newest addition of diplomacy for dummies, but damn.....the donkeys at em......
lol... learn to read the cards. Assad stays in power... Putin/Russia win. Obama was going to back religious extremists (that he's already been arming) like in libya, egypt... etc.  The deal now requires next to no burden from Assad or russia... look closely at the result.

The action basically went: bluff/call... minimum raise/call... check/check... bluff shown... Russia takes pot.
I still say Russia and Assad planned this. Obama's been duped. Assad stays in power and Russia comes out smelling like a rose and keeping the military base. Win win for Russia and Assad.

Markle

Markle

VectorMan wrote:Is this the week America lost it's superpower status?
Could well be. Secretary of State John Kerry made a slip of the tongue and President Putin jumped on it and turned the whole process into utter chaos.

Now President Barack Hussein Obama is going to give a speech for no good reason whatsoever. He called the speech to bolster his call to use force against Syria. Now he's been run into a cul-de-sac from which he has no easy way out. He's going to ask Congress to PAUSE on the vote they were being pushed to have asap...and was going against President Obama.

This is what happens when you have someone whose greatest experience in any sort of leadership was holding ACORN meetings step on the world stage with the real big boys.

Another SNAFU.

2seaoat



Alcohol and poker are not a good combination. lol


There are a few more elements. However, I do like playing poker late at night with young kids who are drinking and have watched a great deal of poker and use the lingo. Pure amusement.

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