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Ohio GOP lawmaker blames mass shootings on Obama, 'fatherlessness' and 'drag queen advocates'

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RealLindaL


Good holy grief, how utterly disgusting:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/politics/candice-keller-ohio-lawmaker-mass-shootings/index.html

PkrBum

PkrBum
If Trump is responsible for the Texas shooting... then Dem leaders are responsible for Ohio.

You can't have it both ways.

zsomething


Yeah, they're scrambling to find some kind of a scapegoat. (It's kind of hilarious, but I hear that some desperate scumbags are even trying to say there's an equivalency just because the Dayton shooter supposedly voted Democrat... which might make sense if Democratic leaders were spreading racism or calling for violence against anyone, but since they do the opposite the people who make that argument are just jokes who bring shame to the people who raised them).

Truth is, Trump's cultists know damn well he's been encouraging the kind of thinking that led people like the El Paso shooter, the MAGA bomber, Dylan Roof, all those bastards to do the things they did. And they know Trump won't stop doing it because Trump (A) IS a bigot, (B) knows that his BASE are bigots, (C) is a headcase who neeeeeeeds somebody to like him, and (D) knows that the only people he's really making happy anymore are racists. So, Trump's not going to stop pandering to those creeps. His lunacy won't let him. He'll read his deadpan my-mom's-making-me-condemn-racism-UGH! tributes to "Toledo," but he'll keep doing what he's doing... and the other Republicans will keep cringing and making excuses, because they like pandering to racists, but they don't like being so obvious about it. That stuff's supposed to be dog-whistles, but Trump doesn't know how to do that any better than he knows how to help farmers.

Anyway, be prepared for massive distractions by the dozen. They'll blame video games. They'll blame LGBT's. They'll blame evolution and the idea of a round Earth. They'll blame heavy metal, rock 'n' roll, Elvis, rap music, tacos, the media, any-damn-thing they can find just so they can keep defending their president who's stirring all this shit up. They'll Dinesh-D'Souza their asses off trying to shove them chickens off the roost.

What's funniest is, they'll think that because they convince themselves that they have "good arguments," the rest of the world will be dumb enough to believe it.

Sal

Sal
zsomething wrote:
Anyway, be prepared for massive distractions by the dozen.  They'll blame video games.  They'll blame LGBT's.  They'll blame evolution and the idea of a round Earth.  They'll blame heavy metal, rock 'n' roll, Elvis, rap music, tacos, the media, any-damn-thing they can find just so they can keep defending their president who's stirring all this shit up.  They'll Dinesh-D'Souza their asses off trying to shove them chickens off the roost.

What's funniest is, they'll think that because they convince themselves that they have "good arguments," the rest of the world will be dumb enough to believe it.  

Unfortunately, the "Toledo" shooter is providing plenty of material to work with.

WARNING: Do not click any of the links attached to the VICE article unless you're prepared to see some really sick shit.


Before he killed nine people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, Connor Betts was deeply involved in the misogynistic, male-dominated “goregrind” or “pornogrind” extreme metal music scene. It has a regional following in the Midwest and is known for sexually violent, death-obsessed lyrics and dehumanizing imagery depicting women.

Over the past year, the 24-year-old shooter occasionally performed live vocals in the band Menstrual Munchies, which released albums titled “6 Ways of Female Butchery” and “Preeteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter,” with cover art showing the rape and massacre of female bodies. He also performed with a group called Putrid Liquid.

The Midwest pornogrind scene exists in an obscure pocket of the larger grindcore genre and consists of a handful of bands who often play shows to each other or to small audiences. Even better-known bands in the genre writ large, such as Germany-based Cock and Ball Torture, have just thousands of Facebook fans.

Menstrual Munchies often performed with other regional acts like Necro Cannibal Ass Grinder, Bill Nye da Nazi Spy, and Cunt Torch, playing festivals like the Pornfieldz of Illinoise Grindfest or a former venue in Columbia, Missouri, called UPS — Under the Porn Shop, named for its location beneath the Venus Adult Megastore, owned by the mother of fellow scenester Zach Walton, of the band Groin Mallet.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women

Of course, unless Pkrdmb can convince us that Elizabeth Warren endorses this scene, the douchebag shooter's politics are irrelevant.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
Sal wrote:
zsomething wrote:
Anyway, be prepared for massive distractions by the dozen.  They'll blame video games.  They'll blame LGBT's.  They'll blame evolution and the idea of a round Earth.  They'll blame heavy metal, rock 'n' roll, Elvis, rap music, tacos, the media, any-damn-thing they can find just so they can keep defending their president who's stirring all this shit up.  They'll Dinesh-D'Souza their asses off trying to shove them chickens off the roost.

What's funniest is, they'll think that because they convince themselves that they have "good arguments," the rest of the world will be dumb enough to believe it.  

Unfortunately, the "Toledo" shooter is providing plenty of material to work with.

WARNING:  Do not click any of the links attached to the VICE article unless you're prepared to see some really sick shit.


Before he killed nine people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, Connor Betts was deeply involved in the misogynistic, male-dominated “goregrind” or “pornogrind” extreme metal music scene. It has a regional following in the Midwest and is known for sexually violent, death-obsessed lyrics and dehumanizing imagery depicting women.

Over the past year, the 24-year-old shooter occasionally performed live vocals in the band Menstrual Munchies, which released albums titled “6 Ways of Female Butchery” and “Preeteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter,” with cover art showing the rape and massacre of female bodies. He also performed with a group called Putrid Liquid.

The Midwest pornogrind scene exists in an obscure pocket of the larger grindcore genre and consists of a handful of bands who often play shows to each other or to small audiences. Even better-known bands in the genre writ large, such as Germany-based Cock and Ball Torture, have just thousands of Facebook fans.

Menstrual Munchies often performed with other regional acts like Necro Cannibal Ass Grinder, Bill Nye da Nazi Spy, and Cunt Torch, playing festivals like the Pornfieldz of Illinoise Grindfest or a former venue in Columbia, Missouri, called UPS — Under the Porn Shop, named for its location beneath the Venus Adult Megastore, owned by the mother of fellow scenester Zach Walton, of the band Groin Mallet.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women

Of course, unless Pkrdmb can convince us that Elizabeth Warren endorses this scene, the douchebag shooter's politics are irrelevant.

He sounds like one of the Proud Boys. His sister must have tried to explain to him the reasons he wasn't getting any dates.

zsomething


Sal wrote:

Unfortunately, the "Toledo" shooter is providing plenty of material to work with.

WARNING:  Do not click any of the links attached to the VICE article unless you're prepared to see some really sick shit.


Before he killed nine people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, Connor Betts was deeply involved in the misogynistic, male-dominated “goregrind” or “pornogrind” extreme metal music scene. It has a regional following in the Midwest and is known for sexually violent, death-obsessed lyrics and dehumanizing imagery depicting women.

Over the past year, the 24-year-old shooter occasionally performed live vocals in the band Menstrual Munchies, which released albums titled “6 Ways of Female Butchery” and “Preeteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter,” with cover art showing the rape and massacre of female bodies. He also performed with a group called Putrid Liquid.

The Midwest pornogrind scene exists in an obscure pocket of the larger grindcore genre and consists of a handful of bands who often play shows to each other or to small audiences. Even better-known bands in the genre writ large, such as Germany-based Cock and Ball Torture, have just thousands of Facebook fans.

Menstrual Munchies often performed with other regional acts like Necro Cannibal Ass Grinder, Bill Nye da Nazi Spy, and Cunt Torch, playing festivals like the Pornfieldz of Illinoise Grindfest or a former venue in Columbia, Missouri, called UPS — Under the Porn Shop, named for its location beneath the Venus Adult Megastore, owned by the mother of fellow scenester Zach Walton, of the band Groin Mallet.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women

Of course, unless Pkrdmb can convince us that Elizabeth Warren endorses this scene, the douchebag shooter's politics are irrelevant.

Oh, the guy's a sick bastard, no question about it. I don't care that much about his metal habits -- some of the kindest, most peaceful people I know listen to Cannibal Corpse. This guy, though, seems to have taken things too seriously, as well as having a misogynistic bent. I'm a metalhead, I'm an atheist, and I'm a Democrat, but I'll be the last to tell you that there are no scumbags among either of those groups. Like any subset, you have good, you have bad. This guy was, decidedly and unequivocally, bad.

So far I've seen zero political motivation for his killing, though. And it'd be pretty hard to create one, since he seems to be a Warren supporter and Bernie-Bro, and Warren and Bernie both decry racism and violence, not encourage it. As much as I dislike Bernie, I can't say he's ever encouraged any kind of racism or violence toward anyone. And Warren certainly hasn't. It'd be very difficult to listen to anything she's saying and come away from it with, "Hmmm, I need to kill people!" Might as well try to blame Mr. Rogers.


Meanwhile, the El Paso shooter joins a long list of killers who have acted due to politics. The El Paso shooter even echoed a lot of Trump's "invasion" rhetoric, and he comes from the 8chan Trump cult that actively cheers on violence against immigrants, Muslims, and "leftists," which pretty much covers everyone except them. Then you have guys like Cesar Sayoc, who "found a light in Donald Trump," even according to his own lawyer. Then there's a score of Dylan Roof types who were emboldened by Trump's stirring-up of white supremacy. Then you have the New Zealand shooter, who loved Trump and listed people like Candace Owens as the people who radicalized him.

I don't think every right-winger who commits an act of violence does it for political reasons... but there are a big list of 'em who did. You can find leftists who have killed people, but other than that jackass scumbag who shot up the senators during baseball practice, it's hard to find any who did it due to politics.

Trying to make an equivalency between the Dayton shooter and the El Paso shooter is an exercise for a desperate, guilty idiot who knows he's backing up bigots and is trying to find some way to weasel out of the obvious. That shit's not fooling anyone, although it's amusing to watch the asshole try.

polecat

polecat
You can hear the audio version of the El Paso shooter's manifesto every single night on Fox News coming direct from Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham's mouth. - Jennifer Hayden


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Floridatexan

Floridatexan
zsomething wrote:
Sal wrote:

Unfortunately, the "Toledo" shooter is providing plenty of material to work with.

WARNING:  Do not click any of the links attached to the VICE article unless you're prepared to see some really sick shit.


Before he killed nine people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, Connor Betts was deeply involved in the misogynistic, male-dominated “goregrind” or “pornogrind” extreme metal music scene. It has a regional following in the Midwest and is known for sexually violent, death-obsessed lyrics and dehumanizing imagery depicting women.

Over the past year, the 24-year-old shooter occasionally performed live vocals in the band Menstrual Munchies, which released albums titled “6 Ways of Female Butchery” and “Preeteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter,” with cover art showing the rape and massacre of female bodies. He also performed with a group called Putrid Liquid.

The Midwest pornogrind scene exists in an obscure pocket of the larger grindcore genre and consists of a handful of bands who often play shows to each other or to small audiences. Even better-known bands in the genre writ large, such as Germany-based Cock and Ball Torture, have just thousands of Facebook fans.

Menstrual Munchies often performed with other regional acts like Necro Cannibal Ass Grinder, Bill Nye da Nazi Spy, and Cunt Torch, playing festivals like the Pornfieldz of Illinoise Grindfest or a former venue in Columbia, Missouri, called UPS — Under the Porn Shop, named for its location beneath the Venus Adult Megastore, owned by the mother of fellow scenester Zach Walton, of the band Groin Mallet.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women

Of course, unless Pkrdmb can convince us that Elizabeth Warren endorses this scene, the douchebag shooter's politics are irrelevant.

Oh, the guy's a sick bastard, no question about it.  I don't care that much about his metal habits -- some of the kindest, most peaceful people I know listen to Cannibal Corpse.   This guy, though, seems to have taken things too seriously, as well as having a misogynistic bent.   I'm a metalhead, I'm an atheist, and I'm a Democrat, but I'll be the last to tell you that there are no scumbags among either of those groups.  Like any subset, you have good, you have bad.  This guy was, decidedly and unequivocally, bad.

So far I've seen zero political motivation for his killing, though.  And it'd be pretty hard to create one, since he seems to be a Warren supporter and Bernie-Bro, and Warren and Bernie both decry racism and violence, not encourage it.  As much as I dislike Bernie, I can't say he's ever encouraged any kind of racism or violence toward anyone.  And Warren certainly hasn't.  It'd be very difficult to listen to anything she's saying and come away from it with, "Hmmm, I need to kill people!"   Might as well try to blame Mr. Rogers.
 

Meanwhile, the El Paso shooter joins a long list of killers who have acted due to politics.  The El Paso shooter even echoed a lot of Trump's "invasion" rhetoric, and he comes from the 8chan Trump cult that actively cheers on violence against immigrants, Muslims, and "leftists," which pretty much covers everyone except them.   Then you have guys like Cesar Sayoc, who "found a light in Donald Trump," even according to his own lawyer.  Then there's a score of Dylan Roof types who were emboldened by Trump's stirring-up of white supremacy.   Then you have the New Zealand shooter, who loved Trump and listed people like Candace Owens as the people who radicalized him.

I don't think every right-winger who commits an act of violence does it for political reasons... but there are a big list of 'em who did.  You can find leftists who have killed people, but other than that jackass scumbag who shot up the senators during baseball practice, it's hard to find any who did it due to politics.

Trying to make an equivalency between the Dayton shooter and the El Paso shooter is an exercise for a desperate, guilty idiot who knows he's backing up bigots and is trying to find some way to weasel out of the obvious.   That shit's not fooling anyone, although it's amusing to watch the asshole try.

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

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