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These abortion bans sound like they come from a dystopian nightmare—but they’re very real

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Sarah Hogg
Daily Kos Staff
Friday April 12, 2019 · 4:01 PM CDT

In the span of just one month, four states—Ohio, Georgia, Mississippi, and Kentucky—have all passed six-week abortion bans.

Without legal challenges to block the bans, these bills would outlaw abortion just two weeks after a missed period—before most people even know they’re pregnant.

That’s not the only plausible scenario, either. For people who use long-acting reversible contraceptives (LARCs) such as an implant or IUD, and may not get their periods anymore, it could be nearly impossible to notice a pregnancy caused by birth control failure until well after the six-week cutoff. (It’s important to know that LARCs are over 99% effective, but sometimes birth control does fail. Six-week bans make it extremely difficult to access care if that happens.)

To say this landscape is bleak is an understatement. We’re not trapped in the middle of an episode of The Handmaid’s Tale. We can’t turn the last page of the book and breathe a heavy sigh of relief. This isn’t a dystopian nightmare we can wake up from. This is the reality of abortion access in the United States.

If you’re wondering whether these bills seem more extreme than other state-level anti-abortion legislation we’ve seen in recent years, you’d be correct. While the number of anti-abortion bills introduced in state legislatures in 2019 is comparable to the number introduced in 2018, the extremity of this year’s legislation is unprecedented.

Abortion rights organizations immediately challenged Mississippi and Kentucky’s six-week bans, and the ACLU has promised to sue in Ohio, where Gov. Mike DeWine signed the bill into law on April 11. Georgia’s six-week ban is still sitting on Gov. Brian Kemp’s desk, but if he signs it, the legal response will likely be swift and mighty.

While we desperately need lower courts to block these unconstitutional bans, the catch here is that that is exactly what anti-abortion extremists want. After Brett Kavanaugh’s nauseating ascent to the U.S. Supreme Court, forced-birthers are doing everything they can to get their draconian, revolting abortion restrictions in front of the highest court’s conservative majority. They literally want to be sued.

As my colleague Meteor Blades writes, these bans would only reach the Supreme Court if an appeals court ignored Roe, but with the onslaught of Trump’s extremist judicial nominees, we can’t be too careful. It is critical that six-week bans and other extremist anti-abortion legislation never get near Kavanaugh’s forced-birther fingers.

It’s hard to know where to go from here. The good news is that while the abortion access landscape is bleak, it isn’t hopeless. All across the country, activists are mobilizing to challenge abortion bans in court, on the streets, and with their wallets. If you want to join the fight, please consider becoming a member of or volunteering with your state abortion fund or becoming a clinic escort at your local independent clinic.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/12/1849833/-These-abortion-bans-sound-like-they-come-from-a-dystopian-nightmare-but-they-re-very-real#comment_73597161

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I believe both Florida and Texas have introduced similar legislation. Who is pushing this? These R's need to go back to middle school and take a class in reproductive health. They apparently learned nothing then.

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So what? Abortion pills are readily available--they sell 'em online, fergodsakes. Or you can get 'em at just about any health clinic.

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Deus X wrote:So what? Abortion pills are readily available--they sell 'em online, fergodsakes. Or you can get 'em at just about any health clinic.

I realize this subject is out of your realm, so I forgive you for being stupid.

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Floridatexan wrote:
Deus X wrote:So what? Abortion pills are readily available--they sell 'em online, fergodsakes. Or you can get 'em at just about any health clinic.

I realize this subject is out of your realm, so I forgive you for being stupid.

Yeah, that's it, go for the Ad Hominem attack instead of addressing the content of my comment.  Here, read this:

https://plancpills.org/need-pills

There's also Plan B or morning after pills as well as a bunch of ways to prevent pregnancy in the first place.

Quit sniveling.

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Deus X wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Deus X wrote:So what? Abortion pills are readily available--they sell 'em online, fergodsakes. Or you can get 'em at just about any health clinic.

I realize this subject is out of your realm, so I forgive you for being stupid.

Yeah, that's it, go for the Ad Hominem attack instead of addressing the content of my comment.  Here, read this:

https://plancpills.org/need-pills

There's also Plan B or morning after pills as well as a bunch of ways to prevent pregnancy in the first place.

Quit sniveling.

KMA, pervert. Your comment was insulting to women, not that it apparently matters to you.

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You can trust a whole lot of women in America when they tell you that pills don't always work, IUDs don't always work, hormonal shots or patches don't always work, condoms almost never work, and expecting members of the animal kingdom (yes, humans) to practice abstinence is a completely unworkable plan.

Pregnancies happen. Only a moron would argue that they are all preventable.

The laws we have now are very reasonable. Babies are not being ripped apart and murdered after they are born alive. That's f__king bullshit propaganda. And women who find out they are pregnant early enough can end an unwanted pregnancy while they are so early that there is no damage to them that would interfere with any future pregnancies.
The law is fine right now.

The Jews, at the time of Jesus, never had this problem. Women had abortions then, but the laws that Jesus taught in the synagogue taught that a soul enters the body at the first breath of life. Of course, Christians don't really believe anything Jesus ever taught anyway. All that love your brother stuff is such a downer.

I'm not saying the Old Testament law is right. In some places it's absolutely barbaric, but it is an absolute fact that it was taught that way.

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Floridatexan wrote:
KMA, pervert.  Your comment was insulting to women, not that it apparently matters to you.

Women deserve to be insulted, you in particular. They sit on their fat asses, eating bon-bons while men do all the dirty, dangerous work it takes to build a modern society and keep it running.

These abortion bans sound like they come from a dystopian nightmare—but they’re very real VmxF9Ny

Nothing I said is false. There are ways, other than abortion, to terminate an unwanted pregnancy--ways that weren't readily available just a few years ago.

Quit snivelin'.

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Deus X wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
KMA, pervert.  Your comment was insulting to women, not that it apparently matters to you.

Women deserve to be insulted, you in particular. They sit on their fat asses, eating bon-bons while men do all the dirty, dangerous work it takes to build a modern society and keep it running.

These abortion bans sound like they come from a dystopian nightmare—but they’re very real VmxF9Ny

Nothing I said is false. There are ways, other than abortion, to terminate an unwanted pregnancy--ways that weren't readily available just a few years ago.

Quit snivelin'.

I had one of those when I was 20. My doctor gave me quinine and didn't tell me the truth about what would happen. I had to have a d&c and caught Hep A in the hospital. And you certainly don't do all the dangerous work; you're just a male chauvinist pig.

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Floridatexan wrote:
I had one of those when I was 20.  My doctor gave me quinine and didn't tell me the truth about what would happen.  I had to have a d&c and caught Hep A in the hospital.  And you certainly don't do all the dangerous work; you're just a male chauvinist pig.

I'm not talking about some shit a quack gave you back in the sixties, I'm talking about modern abortifacients: Mifeprex, mifepristone, RU 486--jesus, don't you read? Besides, even back then, abortion was legal in New York and you could fly there on standby for about $30. You were just too stupid to do your homework. You wanted a man to tell you what to do.

If you allowed a doctor to give you quinine to terminate a pregnancy back then, you deserved to get whatever happened to you. You were obviously too fuckin' lazy to go to a library and do some research. Typical dumb-shit, bra-burning "feminist", too stupid to think for yourself.

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Deus X wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
KMA, pervert.  Your comment was insulting to women, not that it apparently matters to you.

Women deserve to be insulted, you in particular. They sit on their fat asses, eating bon-bons while men do all the dirty, dangerous work it takes to build a modern society and keep it running

Quit snivelin'.




Reminds me of somebody, oh yeah.


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Telstar wrote:
Deus X wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
KMA, pervert.  Your comment was insulting to women, not that it apparently matters to you.

Women deserve to be insulted, you in particular. They sit on their fat asses, eating bon-bons while men do all the dirty, dangerous work it takes to build a modern society and keep it running

Quit snivelin'.




Reminds me of somebody, oh yeah.



cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

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Deus X wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
I had one of those when I was 20.  My doctor gave me quinine and didn't tell me the truth about what would happen.  I had to have a d&c and caught Hep A in the hospital.  And you certainly don't do all the dangerous work; you're just a male chauvinist pig.

I'm not talking about some shit a quack gave you back in the sixties, I'm talking about modern abortifacients: Mifeprex, mifepristone, RU 486--jesus, don't you read? Besides, even back then, abortion was legal in New York and you could fly there on standby for about $30. You were just too stupid to do your homework. You wanted a man to tell you what to do.

If you allowed a doctor to give you quinine to terminate a pregnancy back then, you deserved to get whatever happened to you. You were obviously too fuckin' lazy to go to a library and do some research. Typical dumb-shit, bra-burning "feminist", too stupid to think for yourself.

You little POS. How dare you talk to me that way! Who the hell do you think you are? I asked around the art community; NOBODY LIKES YOU.

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Floridatexan wrote:
Deus X wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
I had one of those when I was 20.  My doctor gave me quinine and didn't tell me the truth about what would happen.  I had to have a d&c and caught Hep A in the hospital.  And you certainly don't do all the dangerous work; you're just a male chauvinist pig.

I'm not talking about some shit a quack gave you back in the sixties, I'm talking about modern abortifacients: Mifeprex, mifepristone, RU 486--jesus, don't you read? Besides, even back then, abortion was legal in New York and you could fly there on standby for about $30. You were just too stupid to do your homework. You wanted a man to tell you what to do.

If you allowed a doctor to give you quinine to terminate a pregnancy back then, you deserved to get whatever happened to you. You were obviously too fuckin' lazy to go to a library and do some research. Typical dumb-shit, bra-burning "feminist", too stupid to think for yourself.

You little POS.  How dare you talk to me that way!  Who the hell do you think you are?  I asked around the art community; NOBODY LIKES YOU.




So he's some sort of an artist? Wasn't WTM some sort of an artist?

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Floridatexan wrote:
You little POS.  How dare you talk to me that way!  Who the hell do you think you are?  I asked around the art community; NOBODY LIKES YOU.

You're apparently even dumber than I thought you were. I don't and never have had anything to do with any "art community" anywhere ever! In your case, Descartes' cogito argument would have been "Cogito ergo erro."

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I retract what I said about DeusX. I don't know him, although I have a pretty good idea who he is...yep, a troll.

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Floridatexan wrote:
I have a pretty good idea who he is...

You don't know shit.

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Uh oh.... the pseudonyms are surfacing!

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Such a pity that the btraven account was banned. Twisted Evil

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Telstar wrote:
Such a pity that the btraven account was banned. Twisted Evil

Oh really? I didn't remember that. Well, a lot of good THAT did. Laughing

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RealLindaL wrote:
Telstar wrote:
Such a pity that the btraven account was banned. Twisted Evil

Oh really?  I didn't remember that.  Well, a lot of good THAT did.    Laughing




In the words of James Thurber "You Could Look It Up." Twisted Evil

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Telstar wrote:
Such a pity that the btraven account was banned. Twisted Evil

btraven was never banned, he voluntarily deleted his account and moved away.

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Deus X wrote:
Telstar wrote:
Such a pity that the btraven account was banned. Twisted Evil

btraven was never banned, he voluntarily deleted his account and moved away.




So he flipped his lid and moved to Idville. Ack soooo. Twisted Evil

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Doesn't Pacedog hold some kind of record for multiple accounts? I think someone joked in the back pages about 2 of Pdog's accounts having a conversation with himself. Laughing

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Deus X wrote:
Telstar wrote:
Such a pity that the btraven account was banned. Twisted Evil

btraven was never banned, he voluntarily deleted his account and moved away.

That's more like what I thought.

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RealLindaL wrote:
Deus X wrote:
Telstar wrote:
Such a pity that the btraven account was banned. Twisted Evil

btraven was never banned, he voluntarily deleted his account and moved away.

That's more like what I thought.



These abortion bans sound like they come from a dystopian nightmare—but they’re very real Goldha10


Troll accounts? We don't need no stinking troll accounts!!!

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