PkrBum wrote:then why lie?
Where do you get they lied? They were informed of that and I just heard on NPR Hillary saying we really don't have all the facts even now.
PkrBum wrote:then why lie?
PkrBum wrote:intelligence knew within 24hrs that it was a coordinated attack by terrorists... how can you accept that obama didn't know nearly two weeks later when he repeated the youtube bs... why?
Dreamsglore wrote:Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:
Believe what you want,Ghost.Not everything happens the way you think it should.
So in essence you are saying then is the budget is more important than the lives of our people who serve on foreign soil. If people's lives are at stake as they were in Libya, a budget should not be an excuse for not protecting these servants.
Apparently the republicans didn't think they were too important.Where's your blame to them? Biden said they weren't asked.If you think the President does everything and knows every thing you don't know much.
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:
Believe what you want,Ghost.Not everything happens the way you think it should.
So in essence you are saying then is the budget is more important than the lives of our people who serve on foreign soil. If people's lives are at stake as they were in Libya, a budget should not be an excuse for not protecting these servants.
Apparently the republicans didn't think they were too important.Where's your blame to them? Biden said they weren't asked.If you think the President does everything and knows every thing you don't know much.
The BUCK stops with the POTUS regardless.
Dreamsglore wrote:PkrBum wrote:intelligence knew within 24hrs that it was a coordinated attack by terrorists... how can you accept that obama didn't know nearly two weeks later when he repeated the youtube bs... why?
What utube video? They knew within 24 hrs it was an attack.
http://www.madison-press.com/2012/09/fact-check-romney-misstates-facts-attacks/
Nekochan wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:
Believe what you want,Ghost.Not everything happens the way you think it should.
So in essence you are saying then is the budget is more important than the lives of our people who serve on foreign soil. If people's lives are at stake as they were in Libya, a budget should not be an excuse for not protecting these servants.
Apparently the republicans didn't think they were too important.Where's your blame to them? Biden said they weren't asked.If you think the President does everything and knows every thing you don't know much.
The BUCK stops with the POTUS regardless.
Well, that is what liberals said about Bush....remember Katrina.
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:
Believe what you want,Ghost.Not everything happens the way you think it should.
So in essence you are saying then is the budget is more important than the lives of our people who serve on foreign soil. If people's lives are at stake as they were in Libya, a budget should not be an excuse for not protecting these servants.
Apparently the republicans didn't think they were too important.Where's your blame to them? Biden said they weren't asked.If you think the President does everything and knows every thing you don't know much.
The BUCK stops with the POTUS regardless.
Dreamsglore wrote:Nekochan wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:Ghost_Rider1 wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:
Believe what you want,Ghost.Not everything happens the way you think it should.
So in essence you are saying then is the budget is more important than the lives of our people who serve on foreign soil. If people's lives are at stake as they were in Libya, a budget should not be an excuse for not protecting these servants.
Apparently the republicans didn't think they were too important.Where's your blame to them? Biden said they weren't asked.If you think the President does everything and knows every thing you don't know much.
The BUCK stops with the POTUS regardless.
Well, that is what liberals said about Bush....remember Katrina.
The Gov. of Lousiana stopped the help not Bush.
PkrBum wrote:there are a lot of unanswered questions... i remember the morning after a timeline for the ambassador was reported (good luck finding that now). he apparently flew from europe to tripoli (the embassy) that evening... then abruptly left for the consulate with one guard in what did not appear to be an armoured vehicle... why?
but you are damn right hilary was in charge... that brings up again... why did obama lie and use disinformation?
2seaoat wrote:This lapse in security falls directly on Hillary Clinton. She should resign.
Just a bit premature. Please let me know what the Ambassador's recommendations were for security and his operations. Once I understand the Ambassador's position, I will know where the buck stopped. It the Ambassador wanted more security, and clear memos and communications show the same....we go up the State Department chain of command.
There is gradient of security in any embassy. It starts with the nation supplying the same....but being this is a nation which was basically a few months post revolution, it would be fair to consider this an active war zone, and we of course could withdraw our ambassador like we did in Syria. Sometimes the Ambassador can go cowboy and assume unnecessary risks like in Syria, and the Ambassador was pulled. I would guess they are sandbagging with information on what the ambassador directed in regards to operations and security. I think they are very clever on seeing the inexperience of the Romney Campaign jumping too soon to demand answers, and in the process I smell an ambush.
Four people died in Libya, and this was a tragedy, but in the context of the utter success of finally after 30 years of trying to get Khaddafi.....they got him and the Ambassador was making great strides. Let us wait to find out what the Ambassador wanted, directed and commanded, before we act stupid.
Dreamsglore wrote:2seaoat wrote:This lapse in security falls directly on Hillary Clinton. She should resign.
Just a bit premature. Please let me know what the Ambassador's recommendations were for security and his operations. Once I understand the Ambassador's position, I will know where the buck stopped. It the Ambassador wanted more security, and clear memos and communications show the same....we go up the State Department chain of command.
There is gradient of security in any embassy. It starts with the nation supplying the same....but being this is a nation which was basically a few months post revolution, it would be fair to consider this an active war zone, and we of course could withdraw our ambassador like we did in Syria. Sometimes the Ambassador can go cowboy and assume unnecessary risks like in Syria, and the Ambassador was pulled. I would guess they are sandbagging with information on what the ambassador directed in regards to operations and security. I think they are very clever on seeing the inexperience of the Romney Campaign jumping too soon to demand answers, and in the process I smell an ambush.
Four people died in Libya, and this was a tragedy, but in the context of the utter success of finally after 30 years of trying to get Khaddafi.....they got him and the Ambassador was making great strides. Let us wait to find out what the Ambassador wanted, directed and commanded, before we act stupid.
I read somewhere this ambassador was a great risktaker. Now you're saying Hillary should resign? I think you are jumping to conclusions.
Nekochan wrote:It wasn't Seaoat that said Hillary should resign...it was me.
The Sec of State is responsible for the safety of all Americans who work for the State Department, not just for the Ambassador's safety.
PACEDOG#1 wrote:I think you lie....like Obama
Dreamsglore wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:I think you lie....like Obama
You need psychiatric help,PD. I'm not joking. You are just as adamant politically as you are religiously. People like you are the reason the feds had to intervene at PHS and make you stop preaching to the students. Thank God for the federal govt. because Rick Scott would have let your ilk poison young minds.
Nekochan wrote:Dreamsglore wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:I think you lie....like Obama
You need psychiatric help,PD. I'm not joking. You are just as adamant politically as you are religiously. People like you are the reason the feds had to intervene at PHS and make you stop preaching to the students. Thank God for the federal govt. because Rick Scott would have let your ilk poison young minds.
Pace is just a happy warrior. Well, OK...maybe not so happy. But he's a warrior, like Biden, lol.
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