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1 The beginning of the end... on 11/25/2018, 4:18 pm

Dershowitz: Mueller report will be ‘devastating’ politically for Trump

Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz said Sunday he expects special counsel Robert Mueller's final report will be politically devastating for President Trump, but said he does not believe it will criminally implicate the president.

"I think the report is going to be devastating to the president. And I know that the president’s team is already working on a response to the report," Dershowitz said on ABC's "This Week."

"The critical questions are largely political," he added. "When I say devastating, I mean it's going to paint a picture that's going to be politically very devastating."

Dershowitz argued that Mueller is unlikely to accuse Trump of crime, but will instead lay out the facts of the case. He suggested that the president is more legally vulnerable in matters related to his business.

I can't imagine Trump resigning and his base won't be swayed significantly but, if the midterms were any indication, the Republican party will be screwed for years.


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2 Re: The beginning of the end... on 11/25/2018, 6:07 pm

The pity will be if we still have to endure two more years having this destructive ignoramus, and, to quote Joy Behar, this Pinocchio, in the White House.

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3 Re: The beginning of the end... on 11/25/2018, 6:08 pm

Aside from that, I don't trust anything Alan Dershowitz says anyway. He lost all credibility with me months ago.

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4 Re: The beginning of the end... on 11/27/2018, 1:08 pm

I'd put this down as still being speculation, but it's pretty sharp, well-informed speculation.

Looks like Robert Mueller just busted Paul Manafort, Julian Assange, and Donald Trump for treason

Bill Palmer | 11:42 am EST November 27, 2018

Last night Palmer Report ran a headline which simply stated “Robert Mueller Knows.” We didn’t know precisely what he knew. But after he busted Paul Manafort for lying to him, it became clear that he had other sources of information that directly refuted what Manafort was telling him. This morning we learned what Manafort lied about, and – apparently – how Mueller knew about it. It now also very much appears that Mueller has Trump nailed for lying about the same thing.

This morning The Guardian revealed that Paul Manafort met with Julian Assange three times at the Ecuadorian embassy, according to its visitor logs, including once while Manafort was running Donald Trump’s campaign. This isn’t some zany coincidence. This is, rather obviously, what Manafort lied to Robert Mueller about.

The source of the visitor logs has to be Ecuador itself. This strongly suggests Ecuador is working with Mueller, and already gave him the logs awhile ago. It also suggests that, now that Mueller has publicly busted Manafort for lying, Mueller has told Ecuador that it was free to give the logs to the media, which it did. So where does this get us?

Let’s be clear here about what Paul Manafort was doing. We’ve long known that during the election, he was trying to make one specific Russian oligarch happy, because he owed money to him. But meeting with Assange, who was conspiring with Russian government hackers to try to alter the outcome of the election in Donald Trump’s favor? That’s not trying to pay back an isolated personal favor; it’s engaging in an international treason plot to systematically rig an election. It’s not something you do unless the candidate is on board. So yeah, Trump had to have known.

Robert Mueller’s ten day delay is still the linchpin to all of this. He could have busted Manafort for lying ten days ago, when the status update was originally due. Instead he made a point of briefly delaying the news. As we pointed out last night, the only relevant item that transpired during those ten days was that Donald Trump reached his deadline and turned in his written answers about Trump-Russia collusion.

It’s not difficult to parse that Mueller was looking to bait Trump into lying, in writing, about Manafort and Assange. This means Mueller has Trump nailed for not only being in on the election collusion conspiracy, but then committing the additional crime of lying about it in writing. As we’ve seen, even when Mueller has strong evidence to prove that someone committed a complex crime, he likes initially nailing them on simpler crimes instead, because it’s quicker and easier.

When you put all this together, it’s easy to see why Robert Mueller made a point of busting Paul Manafort last night, and why he cut a deal with the unreliable Manafort in the first place. It’s not that Mueller wanted to use Manafort – whom no jury would believe anyway – as a witness. It’s that Mueller just managed to blow up the Manafort deal in a way that allows the Trump-Russia collusion plot to become public knowledge before he even files his official report about Donald Trump.

This can only be interpreted as Robert Mueller’s way of taking Trump down as quickly and publicly as possible, while working around Matthew Whitaker in the process. After all, when the judge holds the hearing about Paul Manafort lying, Whitaker can’t stop Mueller from providing proof of Manafort’s lies to the judge, and Whitaker certainly can’t stop the judge from making that information public.

This also means that Donald Trump was part of a treasonous plot with a foreign enemy to rig the 2016 presidential election in his favor. There’s no longer any reasonable doubt. The plot between the Trump campaign, Russia, and WikiLeaks wasn’t merely being run by sideshow clowns like Roger Stone or Jerome Corsi. It was being run by Donald Trump’s campaign boss, who was meeting with the enemy in person, and there’s no doubt Trump knew all about it.

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5 Re: The beginning of the end... on 11/27/2018, 2:46 pm

And it's hard to tell if this is part of the main event or just a preamble.

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6 Re: The beginning of the end... on 11/27/2018, 6:02 pm

RealLindaL wrote:The pity will be if we still have to endure two more years having this destructive ignoramus, and, to quote Joy Behar, this Pinocchio, in the White House.

Trump's not going anywhere till 2020 at the earliest.

Demos would do well to sped the next two years to show the voting public they have better plans and specifically what those plans are then spending all their energy and political capital attacking Trump.

(I despise Joy Behar, btw)

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7 Re: The beginning of the end... on 11/27/2018, 6:40 pm

EmeraldGhost wrote:Trump's not going anywhere till 2020 at the earliest.

I used to feel the same way but after the Manafort business today, he might end up resigning in lieu of indictment ala Nixon sometime next year. Up til now, it's all been puppy-shit but I have a feeling this Manafort stuff is gonna be a pretty big deal.

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