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26 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 10:19 pm

Your assertion that it is fine for a drunk to rule from the bench on any issue is ridiculous

You have never argued before a judge in your life as evidenced by your permanent state of naive. Just because a person drinks, does not make a drunk. Certainly, I know judges who have had drinks at lunch and ruled on cases later that afternoon. I would rather have a brilliant jurist who drinks than a dullard who thinks the consumption of alcohol makes a drunk. Just take a deep breath because if you think there are only going to be two Trump appointees.....you are mistaken. Elections have consequences, and whining does not win election, but the average american I know is rejecting entirely this chit show.....entirely. I do have to admit Mrs. Seaoat has been piszed for a week now as it has sunk in what I have told her will happen. If you watch the hysteria, you tend to become hysterical........I think she has called me a dick at least once this week in regard to the same. Trump hatred is almost as insane as Obama hatred.....you just cannot feel good about yourself without blaming a scapegoat......

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27 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:06 pm

2seaoat wrote:He's not stable and doesn't belong on the court.

I gained nothing but respect for the man on his opening statement.  This man has been attacked by the far left, and yes.....part of their war cry has been Karma for the Clintons.   I did not see anything from him which shows instability in that statement, but in fairness I did not watch senators question him because I was traveling.

He will be confirmed.

I'll tell you this. Any Republican who is still blaming their problems on the Clintons is mentally unstable. Bill Clinton hasn't been president in 18 years and Hillary didn't win the White House. The simple fact that he is enough of a conspiracy theorist to blame the Clintons for the accusations against him tells me his mind isn't ready for the prime time of the Court. I just heard that he believed the Vince Foster rumors way back in the 90's too, so he's just like Trump-he's divorced from reality. He may be confirmed but it will be one of the worst things to ever happen to this country. Also, if you did not watch the questioning, maybe you are unaware of how he acted. Just a good possibility, I 'd say.

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28 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:15 pm

He's an untreated alcoholic - and yes, that is a mental illness.

He's forever a victim, full of resentments, and cannot reliably distinguish the true from the false.

Perfect recipe for a judge on the highest court.


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29 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:20 pm

Do you deny the conspiracy to stop this nomination? Do you deny that the conspiracy is among Democrats who do not want a trump appointee on the court? Do you deny that the Democrats remember the Ken Starr prosecution? What part do you not understand. Before the hearing had even began, as the judge said in opening statement, he was being called "evil".......please wake me up because your dream world is a hallucination. Corey Booker and Harris have me very comfortable being a Republican. President Obama is a good man who NEVER had to resort to this radical confrontational hubris that these two routinely display that they are righteous......I mean it is comical now to watch the Corey Booker moment where he broke senate rules......no shortage of hubris and sadly no common sense good candidate is lining up for the Democrats. Trump will be crowned not by voters, but by voter backlash to hubris and arrogance.

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30 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:21 pm

BTW, Seaoat, I can see how Mrs Oats could become pissed at you, as you are a patronizing bastard. I never argued a legal case before a judge, so I'm incapable of knowing the difference in the judgment of someone who has been drinking and someone who has not. Just a FYI, MR Oats, I don't know what your background is, I have a degree in Soclal Work and in getting that degree I took 3 law courses, one in civil rights and civil liberties where I learned to write legal briefs, do research at the law library, etc. When I graduated from college I worked for a few years for what was then called the State Division of Family Services as a Crisis Intervention Specialist. I know a hell of a lot about alcoholism and I don't need any lessons from the likes of you.
You've always been vague on this forum about your background and I don't truly care, but don't go making an ass of yourself by assuming other people are
not as informed as you are on a subject.
I have no respect for any judge who drinks at lunch and then goes back into the courtroom to give rulings, particularly a judge who cannot hold his alcohol. Judge K obviously admits that when he was a teenager he could not limit his alcoholic intake and is very proud that he still loves Beer. I don't care how many beers he has after he goes home from work at night, but having them during the work day is not acceptable behavior for a surgeon, a judge, an airplane pilot, or for workers in many other positions of heavy responsibility.
And once more, with your patronizing attitude, my condolences to Mrs Seaoat.

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31 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:25 pm

2seaoat wrote:Do you deny the conspiracy to stop this nomination?  Do you deny that the conspiracy is among Democrats who do not want a trump appointee on the court?  Do you deny that the Democrats remember the Ken Starr prosecution?

There's already a Trump appointee on the court, you fucking moron.

Go back to sleep where you belong.

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32 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:29 pm

Yes, and that appointment should have been Barack Obama's except for the Republican conspiracy that succeeded.

They can't handle it when they get some of their own medicine back. They've been ridiculing Dems for being wussies for years now, Graham is so shocked his head nearly exploded yesterday.
They'd better get used to it.



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33 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:30 pm

He's an untreated alcoholic - and yes, that is a mental illness.

He's forever a victim, full of resentments, and cannot reliably distinguish the true from the false.

Perfect recipe for a judge on the highest court.


I am glad for your church lady concern, but where was your concern when this happened:

When President Obama gave his State of the Union Speech this year, sitting on the front row were the U.S. Supreme Court Justices, as usual, but Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was strangely slumped over. Was she sick? Was she put to sleep by the President's speech? Was she just too tired from a hard day?

No, it turns out she was a bit inebriated. Uh huh, that's right. According to her own testimony in a recent interview hosted at George Washington University and moderated by NPR's Nina Totenberg, she was drunk.

please take your limp dick hand wringing somewhere else if you do not want to appear to be just another impotent Democrat who is loss in the wilderness......get your act together and do something to win the mid terms rather than this weak sauce. No

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34 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:34 pm

She wasn't making any decisions that day old man. I couldn't care less what a judge does when she's not at work.

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35 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:37 pm

Yes, and that appointment should have been Barack Obama's except for the Republican conspiracy that succeeded.

The conspiracy was that Americans elected Trump and elected senators who did not want Garland. They won. They won this time, and you can bet that the midterm is nowhere near the blue wave the talking heads are trying once again to convince us. I just cannot understand the new stupid for standard......you get your asz beat like a drum by drumming up irrelevant issues, and now the new standard is drinking, and Ruth and Scalia both socialized and alcohol was part of their enjoyment of each other's company even though they had different views of cases. Both were brilliant and I will take those two minds drunk before I would take this dullard logic than drinking is a threshold question of fitness for the Supreme Court......impotence.

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36 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:39 pm

Who the hell is the "church Lady" Seaoat?  Is it Sal or me?
Because like I told you on another thread, I not only gamble, drink, and have smoked weed, but I haven't been in church in 20 years.

But when I was a Crisis Intervention Worker, I damned sure could recognize an alcoholic when I met one. BTW Seaoat, calling me a limp dick really doesn't offend me since I never had one of those things and never had any envy of anyone who did.
And as a woman, impotence really isn't a problem for me. Laughing

Sounds like projection to my trained Social Worker mind.



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37 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:40 pm

There's a huge difference between people who get a little sleepy from drinking alcohol and a man suffering from an untreated disease for nearly 40 years.

You are ignorant.

And, he is woefully unfit.

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38 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:44 pm

She wasn't making any decisions that day old man. I couldn't care less what a judge does when she's not at work.

I personally know folks who write their best appellate briefs after relaxing and drinking some wine. Did you fall off the turnip truck. Where do you think justices write their decision? I will be quiet and see if you can figure this out. Have you ever observed judges after a lunch break in a trial or on their regular calls? Of course not.....you think a judge writes a decision in a cubicle in some office.........too funny. One of the best judges I know was a full blown alcoholic who was often on the bench impaired, but did the best trials of any other judge in the circuit......such sophomoric and relative morality.

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39 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:48 pm

2seaoat wrote:One of the best judges I know was a full blown alcoholic

BULLSHIT

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40 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:51 pm

If he was a full blown alcoholic and ruled from the bench when his judgment was impaired, and IF he was the best judge you ever knew, then you obviously only have known one judge Seaoat.

Your assertion is ridiculous and would violate the rights of anyone having a case before that bench to a fair trial.
Were you a lawyer Seaoat? You've never said, have you. Since you have not, I'll assume that my training and experience as a crisis intervention worker trumps your knowledge of the psychology of alcoholism. As a matter of fact, I think my specialty trumps an attorney's knowledge on that subject anyway, since I took a boat load of psych classes in college that you probably did not. That's not to mention the actual experience of working in the field with families in distress.

So I'll just say good night to you, because your assertion is so ridiculous as to be laughable, if it were not such a dangerous assertion to make. Our judicial system would be in deep jeopardy if everyone thought like you do.

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41 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/28/2018, 11:53 pm

There's a huge difference between people who get a little sleepy from drinking alcohol and a man suffering from an untreated disease for nearly 40 years.

You are ignorant.

And, he is woefully unfit.


Do the gang rape approach is being abandoned.....go figure. I am ignorant. You wrote that post and had no idea of justices on the Supreme Court who drink throughout our history. This is so funny that in your hubris to play the church lady, you say I am ignorant. Well if getting every thing right on this and you getting everything wrong, can we at least acknowledge you do not have a clue what you are talking about when talking about the courts, and those who have served this nation as jurist.

The #meto frenzy is now is willing to throw people with diseases under the bus as evil people who are unfit. Geez you have lost your game. skirt chaser who has not been shy about your drinking.......I guess there are few things more irritating than listening to stupid, or a reformed alcoholic telling folks they cannot function having a drink......please imprint your behavior on another.

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42 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 12:02 am

2seaoat wrote:I am glad for your church lady concern...

You're the last person that should be hurling "church lady" insults at anyone, with your "chit" and "azs' nonsense.

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43 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 12:06 am

I'll assume that my training and experience as a crisis intervention worker trumps your knowledge of the psychology of alcoholism.

So you abandoned your Uncle as the standard, and we can now insert your judgment as the standard of fitness on the Supreme Court. Ok OK OK he is not a gang raper, but he drinks alcohol. I sometimes think Trump is going to be appointed emperor as this weak sauce is only going to embolden him. You folks just cannot be this naive. This whole thing has been choreographed and fools think the Republicans and the Flake move was about sensitivity to women......it was by design to limit the time for investigation, and get him appointed before the midterms. Brett got drunk in high school and at Yale.......he is unfit....this cannot be serious. It is with great sadness that I tell the truth, democrats remain pathetic in their response to Trump. We will see who is right on the Midterms. I was going to put up signs against my Republican congressman, but I now realize that I would be doing the same thing as is happening here.

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44 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 12:10 am

2seaoat wrote:There's a huge difference between people who get a little sleepy from drinking alcohol and a man suffering from an untreated disease for nearly 40 years.

You are ignorant.

And, he is woefully unfit.


Do the gang rape approach is being abandoned.....go figure.  I am ignorant.  You wrote that post and had no idea of justices on the Supreme Court who drink throughout our history.  This is so funny that in your hubris to play the church lady, you say I am ignorant.   Well if getting every thing right on this and you getting everything wrong, can we at least acknowledge you do not have a clue what you are talking about when talking about the courts, and those who have served this nation as jurist.

The #meto frenzy is now is willing to throw people with diseases under the bus as evil people who are unfit.  Geez you have lost your game. skirt chaser who has not been shy about your drinking.......I guess there are few things more irritating than listening to stupid, or a reformed alcoholic telling folks they cannot function having a drink......please imprint your behavior on another.

You are ignorant.

I'm neither an alcoholic, nor a reformed alcoholic.

But, I've worked professionally and exhaustively with both.

This man suffers from an untreated disease which renders him unfit to serve - it has burdened him with a sense of entitlement, unwarranted victimhood, and the inability to distinguish the truth from the false.

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45 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 12:22 am

BULLSHIT

A good trial judge gets it done. This guy was not alone. I know about six judges who were amazing who did some of their best trials after lunch, but you do not have a clue how courts actually operate. I guess under your church lady teetotaler standard President Trump should be declared fit because he is does not drink.....weak pathetic sauce by otherwise intelligent people who do not have a clue to a path to sanity......so as a result we had to watch this political chit show.

You're the last person that should be hurling "church lady" insults at anyone, with your "chit" and "azs' nonsense.

What did I spell incorrectly? I talk like a truck driver, but do not spell real well....do you think I can be a judge? Probably not, I once got inebriated in high school, and college.....I was a wild man.......gang raping only after I had been piled with drinks from all the girls from beta gotta bang bang bang sorority.

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46 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 12:34 am

Good grief! Next he'll be saying truck drivers do their best driving after a few Budweisers.

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47 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 12:38 am

This man suffers from an untreated disease which renders him unfit to serve - it has burdened him with a sense of entitlement, unwarranted victimhood, and the inability to distinguish the truth from the false.

Now I have to question your professional judgment or representation of the same. No professional would be so flippant and uninformed without fully understanding many factors which you have utterly no idea. Sal knows drunks.....Brett is a drunk in in Sal's professional opinion.......what pro does what you just did.....they do not. Go sell that weak sauce to some stupid people.

it has burdened him with a sense of entitlement, really, so that junior high sense of entitlement when his mother was a judge and they belonged to a country club and he was attending the best expensive private schools, and he had to wait to drink to feel entitlement......idiocy. really you cannot be serious.

Unwarranted victimhood......I would like to see how you would handle being accused of gang rape in high school without a scintilla of evidence.........the left targeted to destroy this man's reputation and nothing has changed. He is the victim of the worst political theater that I have seen in many years.

What Hubris......what arrogance.......you think you know what is truth in this witch hunt, and when they had the nerve to criticize the whole Clinton foundation child pornography pizza caper......you had not become a lemming and understood how absurd the allegations were.....so alcohol addiction is the cause of untruthfulness........go to sleep and wake up in the morning....look in the mirror and ask the question....mirror mirror on the wall is sal not the fairest princess in the land......

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48 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 12:47 am

Good grief! Next he'll be saying truck drivers do their best driving after a few Budweisers.


So what respectful truck driver would drink beer before driving. Hell, they pick up some good wine and bring it to a party at notorious RBG's house, but she and Scalia could never keep up with the truck drivers when they were playing drunk twister..........Scalia insisted that you needed a warrant to enter the red circle, but Ruth always left the party to write her next minority opinion. drunken

Party animals.

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49 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 1:28 am

2seaoat wrote:after I had been piled [sic] with drinks from all the girls from beta gotta bang bang bang sorority.  

Clear evidence (as if we didn't already have plenty) of an ancient, sexist, MCP attitude -- and no, it's not humorous.  

If Mrs. Sea is calling you a dick, she's a woman after my own heart.

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50 Re: Oh, Seaoat, you there? on 9/29/2018, 2:20 am

RealLindaL wrote:
2seaoat wrote:after I had been piled [sic] with drinks from all the girls from beta gotta bang bang bang sorority.  

Clear evidence (as if we didn't already have plenty) of an ancient, sexist, MCP attitude -- and no, it's not humorous.  

If Mrs. Sea is calling you a dick, she's a woman after my own heart.

Now, now, let's not be too harsh with the old boy, I think he's been self-medicating.

Or something.

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