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Senate Republicans hire female questioner

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Floridatexan
2seaoat
bigdog
RealLindaL
EmeraldGhost
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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

They didn't like the optics.


Senate Republicans have hired an attorney to use as a questioner of Christine Blasey Ford at Thursday's high-stakes hearing on sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh but are declining to name her.

Read more here.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

I have no problem with that.

RealLindaL



It's pure chickenshit.

bigdog



The woman they hired is a sex crimes prosecutor. We don't know her name yet. But exactly why is a prosecutor being hired to question a woman who is the alleged victim of a crime, and not to question the alleged perpetrator?

Confirmation hearings have always been about sitting Senators questioning the appointee directly, and questioning any witnesses who show up directly. This thing is a BS plan by the Republican Mob that will run this country until the next congress is seated.
Some of them actually used to be decent people, but they decided to kiss the huge, bulbous butt cheeks of the POTUS and toss out any shred of moral fiber they ever had. BTW, any Republican worth his salt would propose a bill that the POTUS could no longer wear golfing shorts in public. He's a monumentally grotesque figure when he's out on the links.
I think they will regret kissing his butt the first week of November, and that time is quickly coming. Just a little over a month now.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

45 is a great role model for disregarding the norms. He does what he pleases and the Judiciary committee R's are glad to follow along.

2seaoat



Wrong! All congressional committees can use staff or lawyers to ask questions during a hearing. Bobby Kennedy earned his spurs as committee lawyer for the Hoffa hearings, and Cohen earned his in the McCarthy hearings. The reason it has not been done in the past on judicial nominations is that senators want their face time on tv and that is a bipartisan desire, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with a lawyer asking questions, especially in this context.

In regard to a trained prosecutor asking questions.....duh.....no double duh. I mean I have simply turned off most of the cable news and have been watching sports and can see how clear my thinking has become now that I am away from talking heads on tv pounding the minutia just because they have to talk.....sometimes it is better to STFU and listen.......none of this is relevant, and the chairman will conduct the hearing over the partisan theatrics of two hours of Janis Ian singing 17.......we have lost our minds.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

I have a huge problem with that. She's not on trial. Also:

Kavanaugh's college roommate says the nominee was capable of assault

[...]

Full statement from Roche:

"I was Brett Kavnanaugh's roommate at Yale University in the Fall of 1983. We shared a two-bedroom unit in the basement of Lawrence Hall on the Old Campus. Despite our living conditions, Brett and I did not socialize beyond the first few days of freshman year. We talked at night as freshman roommates do and I would see him as he returned from nights out with his friends.

"It is from this experience that I concluded that although Brett was normally reserved, he was a notably heavy drinker, even by the standards of the time, and that he became aggressive and belligerent when he was very drunk. I did not observe the specific incident in question, but I do remember Brett frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk.

"I became close friends with Debbie Ramirez shortly after we both arrived at Yale. She stood out as being exceptionally honest, with a trusting manner. As we got to know one another, I discovered that Debbie was very worried about fitting in. She felt that everyone at Yale was very rich, very smart and very sophisticated and that as a Puerto Rican woman from a less privileged background she was an outsider. Her response was to try hard to make friends and get along.

"Based on my time with Debbie, I believe her to be unusually honest and straightforward and I cannot imagine her making this up. Based on my time with Brett, I believe that he and his social circle were capable of the actions that Debbie described.

"I do not consider myself to be a political person and I have no political agenda. I have shared this information with a small number of reporters who reached out to me directly because Debbie has a right to be heard and I believe her.

"I have been asked for more details and additional stories, but this is all that I am comfortable sharing. If I could contribute more first-hand information, I would, but I will not be granting any more interview or answering any more questions at this time."

[...]

https://www.axios.com/brett-kavanaugh-college-roommate-believes-allegations-add8ad85-cc53-4e42-88e3-6a36398d6bb0.html

zsomething



What a great idea for the G.O.P. Now they don't have to elect women, blacks, Latinos, gay people, non-Christians, etc. anymore. They can just elect exclusively white males, and when they need any kind of "diversity" on a project, they can just hire somebody to represent 'em.

Nifty!

Rolling Eyes

2seaoat



I did not observe the specific incident in question, but I do remember Brett frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk.


Objection

relevancy

sustained

but...but....but.....he forgot to put the toilet seat down when he lived with me....and he had friends.

Deus X

Deus X

2seaoat wrote: Bobby Kennedy earned his spurs as committee lawyer for the Hoffa hearings, and Cohen earned his in the McCarthy hearings.  

I hope that's a typo otherwise you just destroyed the few remaining shreds of your credibility.

2seaoat



I hope that's a typo otherwise you just destroyed the few remaining shreds of your credibility.


Well it has gotten bad enough......that I think you may have me because I do not understand the post.....confusion is part of the liver failure, but this one has me stumped. Give some guidance on my latest detour from proper English.

Deus X

Deus X

2seaoat wrote:I hope that's a typo otherwise you just destroyed the few remaining shreds of your credibility.


Well it has gotten bad enough......that I think you may have me because I do not understand the post.....confusion is part of the liver failure, but this one has me stumped.  Give some guidance on my latest detour from proper English.

Cohen, McCarthy hearings?

bigdog



2seaoat wrote:I did not observe the specific incident in question, but I do remember Brett frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk.


Objection

relevancy

sustained

but...but....but.....he forgot to put the toilet seat down when he lived with me....and he had friends.


_____I doubt you would change your mind if there were a video of the incident. You'd still say it just wasn't relevant because it was so long ago. The simple fact that there is no statute of limitations on this crime and Dr Ford could go to the police at any moment and file a complaint makes the act relevant. Even if he is confirmed, she could destroy his career, he could be impeached and arrested, or just arrested first. Can a Supreme Court justice be arrested? I think so. I personally think there is , at the very least, a man who is being nominated for the Supreme Court who becomes incoherent when he is drunk. That shows a serious lack of judgment as well. He and his friends had to know that in college, but he continued to booze it up with his buddies. I'd like to know if he is in AA, and if so, how many years he has been a member. Has he ever admitted to being an alcoholic, or not? Does he consume alcohol now? The fact that he could still be arrested and the fact that he has no control over himself when he drinks is definitely relevant to this week's proceedings.

bigdog



Pretty sure he meant Roy Cohn.

Deus X

Deus X

bigdog wrote:Pretty sure he meant Roy Cohn.
That's why I think it must have been a typo.

2seaoat



You have officially lost your mind that she could go to a prosecutor and he could be charged........You are naive as to how our system actually works.

Deus....thank you Cohn. You will be catching more of my mistakes in the near future, but at least I will keep Big Dog and Dreams confirming that I have been insane for years...... Very Happy

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

What I have noticed is that people's views on who is telling the truth and who is lying in this whole debacle are distinctly colored by whether they lean liberal or conservative.

Every liberal leaning person I know is absolutely convinced this incident happened as reported by Ms Ford and is clearly disqualifying. Every conservative leaning person I know either entirely disbelieve Ms Ford or believe she is leaving things out either intentionally or due to misrembrance .... and that either way it's not relevant at all to the nomination.

And I'm talking about some very educated people I know on both sides of that line.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:I did not observe the specific incident in question, but I do remember Brett frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk.


Objection

relevancy

sustained

but...but....but.....he forgot to put the toilet seat down when he lived with me....and he had friends.


cheers

More grasping at straws.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

EmeraldGhost wrote:What I have noticed is that people's views on who is telling the truth and who is lying in this whole debacle are distinctly colored by whether they lean liberal or conservative.  

Every liberal leaning person I know is absolutely convinced this incident happened as reported by Ms Ford and is clearly disqualifying.   Every conservative leaning person I know either entirely disbelieve Ms Ford or believe she is leaving things out either intentionally or due to misrembrance .... and that either way it's not relevant at all to the nomination.  

And I'm talking about some very educated people I know on both sides of that line.


Ms. Ford is not the only complainant. Then there's the apparent porn addict, Judge Kozinski, with whom Kavanaugh clerked. But that's not really the point, is it. Fact: Kavanaugh is a reliable POS for the extremely corrupt GOP...and whether he's right or not, Drumpf thinks Kavanaugh can keep him out of jail.

Deus X

Deus X

Joanimaroni wrote:More grasping at straws.

Why Brett Kavanaugh’s yearbook page matters

“The vast majority of the time I spent in high school was studying or focused on sports and being a good friend to the boys and the girls that I was friends with,” Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said in a Fox News interview on Monday night.

But his page in the Georgetown Preparatory School yearbook appears to tell a different story. As Kate Kelly and David Enrich reported at the New York Times on Monday, among apparent references to drinking and partying, the page includes the phrase “Renate Alumnius,” a reference to Renate Schroeder (now Renate Schroeder Dolphin), a student at a neighboring girls’ school.

Dolphin’s first name appears repeatedly throughout the yearbook, including below a photo of nine football players, one of them Kavanaugh, who describe themselves as “Renate Alumni.”

A lawyer for Kavanaugh says “Renate Alumnius” is merely a reference to the fact that the two students “attended one high school event together and shared a brief kiss good night following that event.” But others say the “Renate Alumni” jokes were part of a demeaning pattern in which boys bragged about having sex with Dolphin.

“The insinuation is horrible, hurtful and simply untrue,” Dolphin said in a statement to the Times. “I pray their daughters are never treated this way.”

She also said she did not kiss Kavanaugh. “I never kissed him,” she told the Times through a lawyer.

Kavanaugh’s high school yearbook takes on importance now, 35 years after he graduated in 1983, because psychology professor Christine Blasey Ford says he sexually assaulted her when they were both in high school, and another woman, Deborah Ramirez, says he thrust his genitals in her face without her consent not long after, when they were students at Yale. Kavanaugh has denied both allegations and, on Monday, told Fox’s Martha MacCallum, “I’ve always treated women with dignity and respect.”

The contents of his yearbook page cast doubt on that claim.

bigdog



2seaoat wrote:You have officially lost your mind that she could go to a prosecutor and he could be charged........You are naive as to how our system actually works.  

Deus....thank you Cohn.  You will be catching more of my mistakes in the near future, but at least I will keep Big Dog and Dreams confirming that I have been insane for years...... Very Happy

_____ Here's the problem with that assumption Seaoat. It's named Bill Cosby and it was sentenced to 3 years in prison today. Behind bars, Seaoat. Do you have any idea when Cosby's crimes happened? Suffice to say, longer ago than Brett Kavanaugh's alleged crimes happened.
So, i don't know how you think the judicial system works, but in the day and age of the "me Too" movement, things are just a little different.

Telstar

Telstar

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2seaoat



So, i don't know how you think the judicial system works,

I do not watch Judge Judy to think that is how our system works. 100% certain that NO SA in America would bring criminal assault charges based on what has been disclosed by Dr. Ford.....zero chance. I have been preaching relevancy, and I do not think a person has understood that is a legal concept, yet some idiot is going to bring current charges and think it is relevant now....it is an unsubstantiated he said she said and you can flip a coin.....I believe her, but in American jurisprudence and justice forty year charges of such minor nature.....it would have been pled to simple assault. His mother was a judge and no SA is going to take it to trial then, and probably now.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

bigdog wrote:

_____ Here's the problem with that assumption Seaoat.  It's named Bill Cosby and it was sentenced to 3 years in prison today. Behind bars, Seaoat. Do you have any idea when Cosby's crimes happened? Suffice to say, longer ago than Brett Kavanaugh's alleged crimes happened.
So, i don't know how you think the judicial system works, but in the day and age of the "me Too" movement, things are just a little different.

Yeah, but Cosby pretty much inadvertently gave a confession in a civil deposition .... I don't think there's gonna be any such thing with Kavanaugh.

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