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PkrBum wrote:Un may very well be playing this to improve it's position w China. The difference is... trump will walk away.
EmeraldGhost wrote:PkrBum wrote:Un may very well be playing this to improve it's position w China. The difference is... trump will walk away.
And if that happens (as I think it probably will) Kim will have "won."
Kim (and his father before him) would have jumped at the chance to meet unilaterally with any previous US President ... but it's always been standing US policy we wouldn't negotiate with him unilaterally without S Korea, China, and Japan involved. I guess Trump;s thrown that particular standing policy out the window.
Don't you see what's going on here PkrBum, it's lather, rinse, and repeat. We've played this game with N Korea before ... and this time around it's actually Kim Jong Un driving events ... not Trump.
PkrBum wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:PkrBum wrote:Un may very well be playing this to improve it's position w China. The difference is... trump will walk away.
And if that happens (as I think it probably will) Kim will have "won."
Kim (and his father before him) would have jumped at the chance to meet unilaterally with any previous US President ... but it's always been standing US policy we wouldn't negotiate with him unilaterally without S Korea, China, and Japan involved. I guess Trump;s thrown that particular standing policy out the window.
Don't you see what's going on here PkrBum, it's lather, rinse, and repeat. We've played this game with N Korea before ... and this time around it's actually Kim Jong Un driving events ... not Trump.
polecat wrote:
Deus X wrote:polecat wrote:
What's the title of this thread again? Oh, yeah, something about the Korean War ending and Trump getting the credit, no?
MANY MUCH OUT LOUD LAUGHINGS!
Sal wrote:N Korea is getting exactly what they’ve wanted.
China is getting exactly what they’ve wanted.
Iran is getting exactly what they’ve wanted.
Russia is getting exactly what they’ve wanted.
And, the orange hemorrhoid has gotten America what in exchange?
Global disdain?
What a deal!
PkrBum wrote:I've admited that I was surprised that we would elect trump... but I was also surprised that we elected Obama... given he wasn't really vetted or experienced. He's pretty much a socialist... his foreign policy was an abject failure... he's not really much of an American. Doesn't really have American values. In fact... I could make the case he did things to intentionally harm the US because we had it coming or some shit. See: apology tour... guns to criminal cartels and military weaponry to foriegn terrorists... libya/Benghazi... Iran deal... Cash pallets... Russian reset... ect. I think that he illegally used intelligence agencies and the FBI to spy on political enemies. He was never held accountable over scandals... and obfuscation was his go to play.
The bottomline is that Dems miscalculated the last election and they continue to miscalculate. The dem platform seems to have really NOT struck a chord with most voters. People do not like being called racist. Most Amercians are not really socialist at heart. Most Americans still believe in the Constitution. Most Americans still don't really trust government. Most Americans think we should consider our interests first... or at least of importance.
Dems have gone way overboard on Trump criticism... they've turned people off. The blue wave is turning into a blue skid mark. Y'all pretty much handed the country trump. If I thght y'all were able... I'd recommend some introspection. But whatever... just keep following your ruling elite over the cliff.
Vikingwoman wrote:PkrBum wrote:I've admited that I was surprised that we would elect trump... but I was also surprised that we elected Obama... given he wasn't really vetted or experienced. He's pretty much a socialist... his foreign policy was an abject failure... he's not really much of an American. Doesn't really have American values. In fact... I could make the case he did things to intentionally harm the US because we had it coming or some shit. See: apology tour... guns to criminal cartels and military weaponry to foriegn terrorists... libya/Benghazi... Iran deal... Cash pallets... Russian reset... ect. I think that he illegally used intelligence agencies and the FBI to spy on political enemies. He was never held accountable over scandals... and obfuscation was his go to play.
The bottomline is that Dems miscalculated the last election and they continue to miscalculate. The dem platform seems to have really NOT struck a chord with most voters. People do not like being called racist. Most Amercians are not really socialist at heart. Most Americans still believe in the Constitution. Most Americans still don't really trust government. Most Americans think we should consider our interests first... or at least of importance.
Dems have gone way overboard on Trump criticism... they've turned people off. The blue wave is turning into a blue skid mark. Y'all pretty much handed the country trump. If I thght y'all were able... I'd recommend some introspection. But whatever... just keep following your ruling elite over the cliff.
What is this "most Americans"? Are you not aware Hillary got 3 million more votes? Of the voting population Hillary got the "most Americans vote" so quit saying "most Americans" because it's not true.
PkrBum wrote:I've admited that I was surprised that we would elect trump... but I was also surprised that we elected Obama... given he wasn't really vetted or experienced. He's pretty much a socialist... his foreign policy was an abject failure... he's not really much of an American. Doesn't really have American values. In fact... I could make the case he did things to intentionally harm the US because we had it coming or some shit. See: apology tour... guns to criminal cartels and military weaponry to foriegn terrorists... libya/Benghazi... Iran deal... Cash pallets... Russian reset... ect. I think that he illegally used intelligence agencies and the FBI to spy on political enemies. He was never held accountable over scandals... and obfuscation was his go to play.
The bottomline is that Dems miscalculated the last election and they continue to miscalculate. The dem platform seems to have really NOT struck a chord with most voters. People do not like being called racist. Most Amercians are not really socialist at heart. Most Americans still believe in the Constitution. Most Americans still don't really trust government. Most Americans think we should consider our interests first... or at least of importance.
Dems have gone way overboard on Trump criticism... they've turned people off. The blue wave is turning into a blue skid mark. Y'all pretty much handed the country trump. If I thght y'all were able... I'd recommend some introspection. But whatever... just keep following your ruling elite over the cliff.
PkrBum wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:PkrBum wrote:I've admited that I was surprised that we would elect trump... but I was also surprised that we elected Obama... given he wasn't really vetted or experienced. He's pretty much a socialist... his foreign policy was an abject failure... he's not really much of an American. Doesn't really have American values. In fact... I could make the case he did things to intentionally harm the US because we had it coming or some shit. See: apology tour... guns to criminal cartels and military weaponry to foriegn terrorists... libya/Benghazi... Iran deal... Cash pallets... Russian reset... ect. I think that he illegally used intelligence agencies and the FBI to spy on political enemies. He was never held accountable over scandals... and obfuscation was his go to play.
The bottomline is that Dems miscalculated the last election and they continue to miscalculate. The dem platform seems to have really NOT struck a chord with most voters. People do not like being called racist. Most Amercians are not really socialist at heart. Most Americans still believe in the Constitution. Most Americans still don't really trust government. Most Americans think we should consider our interests first... or at least of importance.
Dems have gone way overboard on Trump criticism... they've turned people off. The blue wave is turning into a blue skid mark. Y'all pretty much handed the country trump. If I thght y'all were able... I'd recommend some introspection. But whatever... just keep following your ruling elite over the cliff.
What is this "most Americans"? Are you not aware Hillary got 3 million more votes? Of the voting population Hillary got the "most Americans vote" so quit saying "most Americans" because it's not true.
Most people voted for Hillary. That doesn't contradict anything I said. See: reading comprehension.
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