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2 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 3/28/2018, 12:04 am

The people in Indiana had their fill of Pence.....he would not have been reelected. He may be president for a balance of a term, but he will never be elected to office......like the other guy from Indiana who could not spell potato..........the folks from Indiana were called Hoosiers for a reason.

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3 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 3/28/2018, 1:03 am


This article is 13,500 words long. At a reading speed of 300 wpm, that's 45 minutes. Do you actually expect people to read it?

WAY WAY TL;DR

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4 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 3/28/2018, 5:36 am

Pence is as appealing as a hunk of wood. He'll never win an election.

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5 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 3/28/2018, 10:26 am

Pence is why a "containment" strategy is better for dealing with Trump for the next couple of years rather than futile pipe-dreams of impeachment.

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6 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 3/28/2018, 10:28 am

Telstar wrote:Pence is as appealing as a hunk of wood. He'll never win an election.

Don't underestimate Mike Pence's political abilities.  He's won five elections as Congressman to the US House of Representatives and two elections for Governor of Indiana.   I don't think we've seen the real Pence yet on the national stage ... on the campaign trail or in action as an elected official.  He's biding his time, and quietly using the the Vice Presidency to achieve what he can of his agenda.

Conservative turnout would go through the roof for Pence in 2020, and particularly with evangelicals ... he'd probably get more votes than Trump could.  But he'll not likely get that chance because Trump will survive the next couple of years and will run for re-election unless he becomes convinced he's likely to lose, in which case he'll find some excuse (health, business, family etc) to pass the baton to early.  But then again, Trump's not really a "team player" so "passing the baton" when appropriate for the good of the party (or anyone/thing else for that matter) won't come naturally to him.  The only thing that would cause him not to run for another term would be a fair certainty he wouldn't win ... because "losing" would tarnish everything he's supposed to be about.

It will be interesting to see how things go, anyway.   Stay tuned, folks!!!



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7 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 3/28/2018, 10:59 am

The evangellybeans who are humiliating themselves trying to support Trump would LOVE a chance to vote for Pence.

If you really want to understand what evangelicals are wanting, go read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Nation-Frederic-C-Rich/dp/0393240118/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522248148&sr=1-1&keywords=christian+nation It's a novel, but it's got more truth in it about the Dominionist plans than you're likely to find anywhere else, and it's backed up with facts even though the narrative is speculative fiction.

Today I got behind a car with an old bumper sticker that said "VOTE GOD BACK 2014." That's really all these people are focused on. They see the kind of stranglehold the Taliban got over Afghanistan, and it made them jealous. It's what they want to do to this country. They admit it.



Pence is what they want. Yeah, he's bland and he's boring, but he's an extremist fanatic, and he has enough sense to behave himself. They won't constantly have to make hypocrites of themselves defending his morals, and they'll enthusiastically back him as he blandly goes about all their goals -- shoving homosexuals back in the closet (or outlawing them altogether), taking every right away from women, making life hell for anyone who isn't white and Christian. That's what they want -- absolute conformity to White Christian Males, to the point of fascism.

Letting Pence in there would be a gift to them. His boring-ness would feel like a refreshing reset to the country after the chaos of Trump, and the policies would be just as horrible. But evangelicals would be behind it all the way.

These idiots need to be shut out, not emboldened. I wouldn't do them the favor of removing Trump from office and letting radical-cleric Pence imbed himself. Let Trump drag out his time lame-ducked by his scandals and reveal the Republican/evangelical party for the hypocritical sham that it is, and then vote them all out in 2020 and kill their insidious movement off for good. Otherwise we're going to be seeing some version of The Handmaid's Tale, only with more resistance. This country's too good to hand it over to radicalized religious scumfucks.

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8 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 3/28/2018, 12:16 pm

zsomething wrote:The evangellybeans who are humiliating themselves trying to support Trump would LOVE a chance to vote for Pence.

If you really want to understand what evangelicals are wanting, go read this book:  https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Nation-Frederic-C-Rich/dp/0393240118/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522248148&sr=1-1&keywords=christian+nation   It's a novel, but it's got more truth in it about the Dominionist plans than you're likely to find anywhere else, and it's backed up with facts even though the narrative is speculative fiction.  

Today I got behind a car with an old bumper sticker that said "VOTE GOD BACK 2014."  That's really all these people are focused on.   They see the kind of stranglehold the Taliban got over Afghanistan, and it made them jealous.  It's what they want to do to this country.  They admit it.  



Pence is what they want.  Yeah, he's bland and he's boring, but he's an extremist fanatic, and he has enough sense to behave himself.  They won't constantly have to make hypocrites of themselves defending his morals, and they'll enthusiastically back him as he blandly goes about all their goals -- shoving homosexuals back in the closet (or outlawing them altogether), taking every right away from women, making life hell for anyone who isn't white and Christian.   That's what they want -- absolute conformity to White Christian Males, to the point of fascism.

Letting Pence in there would be a gift to them.  His boring-ness would feel like a refreshing reset to the country after the chaos of Trump, and the policies would be just as horrible.   But evangelicals would be behind it all the way.

These idiots need to be shut out, not emboldened.   I wouldn't do them the favor of removing Trump from office and letting radical-cleric Pence imbed himself.   Let Trump drag out his time lame-ducked by his scandals and reveal the Republican/evangelical party for the hypocritical sham that it is, and then vote them all out in 2020 and kill their insidious movement off for good.  Otherwise we're going to be seeing some version of The Handmaid's Tale, only with more resistance.   This country's too good to hand it over to radicalized religious scumfucks.

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9 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/11/2018, 8:08 pm

Pence is every bit as corrupt, if not as clownish, as the orange diarrhea.

He would be easily contained with a short shelf life due to his own scandals.

Pence is not a reason to avoid Trump's impeachment.

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10 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/12/2018, 1:14 am

Sal wrote:Pence is every bit as corrupt, if not as clownish, as the orange diarrhea.

He would be easily contained with a short shelf life due to his own scandals.

Pence is not a reason to avoid Trump's impeachment.

It's a moot point, you need 2/3 of the Senate to convict. Not likely to happen.

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11 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/12/2018, 8:30 am

My guess is Pence is behind a lot of Trump's appointments ... like this Wendy Vitter tool.

What he is, like MIke Huckabee and Ted Cruz (to a degree) is a Christian Reconstruction/Dominionist

Link: Wiki - Dominion Theology

Link:  http://brewminate.com/christian-reconstructionists-and-dominionism-theocratic-pursuits-in-american-politics/

I may lean conservative on many issues (fiscally, constitutionally) ... but I detest these people.

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12 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/12/2018, 12:43 pm

EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is Pence is behind a lot of Trump's appointments ... like this Wendy Vitter tool.

What he is, like MIke Huckabee and Ted Cruz (to a degree) is a Christian Reconstruction/Dominionist

Link: Wiki - Dominion Theology

Link:  http://brewminate.com/christian-reconstructionists-and-dominionism-theocratic-pursuits-in-american-politics/

I may lean conservative on many issues (fiscally, constitutionally) ... but I detest these people.

You're going straight to HELL, you friggin' heathen!

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13 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/13/2018, 10:10 am

Deus X wrote:

You're going straight to HELL, you friggin' heathen!

Didn't they teach you anything in Kindergarten?  Like .... no yelling.  

You need to stand in line & wait your turn to tell me that like everybody else.   And it just might be a pretty long line depending on what day, week it is .... so I'd think about bringing a snack if I were you.   Laughing

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14 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/13/2018, 11:07 am

EmeraldGhost wrote:
Didn't they teach you anything in Kindergarten?  Like .... no yelling.  

Sorry, I got one of them prayer cloths once from Jim Bakker but if you fold it wrong or put it in your hip pocket and sit on it, Jerry Falwell pops out and starts yelling. Nothin' personal.

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15 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/15/2018, 2:49 am

Sal wrote:Pence is every bit as corrupt, if not as clownish, as the orange diarrhea.

He would be easily contained with a short shelf life due to his own scandals.

Pence is not a reason to avoid Trump's impeachment.

Which scandals are those, Sal? Wondering what I must've missed on that score.

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16 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/15/2018, 7:31 am

RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:Pence is every bit as corrupt, if not as clownish, as the orange diarrhea.

He would be easily contained with a short shelf life due to his own scandals.

Pence is not a reason to avoid Trump's impeachment.

Which scandals are those, Sal?  Wondering what I must've missed on that score.  




Spiro T Agnew wasn't on anyone's radar when Watergate broke but he was gone before Nixon was. So this wouldn't be the first American double resignation at the top shop. The amazing thing is their party keeps surviving these massive fails.

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17 Re: The Danger of President Pence on 4/15/2018, 2:53 pm

Thanks, Tel. Can always hope, I suppose.

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