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It is easy going to the dog track heading west on 98. but damn, I get twisted going back East

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I literally have gone to the dog track forty times since they legalized poker there. When we are staying in Navarre, it is easier to take 98 to the track. When we are staying at garcon point, it is really easy taking 10 west. It is easy returning on 10, but about half the time I get twisted around at 2am and end up going north when I wanted to go downtown and take three mile bridge. I lost two hundred dollars betting all in on a pair of sixes, and then played three card poker which has horrible odds and lost another eighty, so I was not in the best mood because the tables were boring and the conversations were not as much fun as I usually have talking to people.

So here are two questions. First, before the interstate systems in the late fifties and early sixties, how did truck traffic go from Navarre to New Orleans? Did they go through downtown Pensacola? What is the fastest method to get from the track to three mile bridge. I will not play again until late February or March, but last night was like the fourth time I took a wrong turn which took me north instead of downtown. I am used to squared off grid street systems, and I remember giving Bob a hard time about the Spanish setting up a great downtown, and then the Americans drew up the road system with all kinds of diagonal streets and chaos.......same folks who voted for Trump. It reminds me of all the Bridges failing in North Escambia and Santa Rosa County. They showed a photo of one of the bridges where people were running into each other on the bridge deck, and were blaming the motorist. When you look at the photos of the old concrete guardrails on the bridge deck, some Einstein decided to run fricking steel guardrails onto the bridge deck inside the old concrete guardrails which narrowed the bridge and was contributing to people side swiping their vehicles on the bridge decks.......I think they need to replace a lot of these so called engineers with people who actually have worked in the private sector. My rant is over.

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2seaoat wrote:I literally have gone to the dog track forty times since they legalized poker there.  When we are staying in Navarre, it is easier to take 98 to the track.  When we are staying at garcon point, it is really easy taking 10 west.  It is easy returning on 10, but about half the time I get twisted around at 2am and end up going north when I wanted to go downtown and take three mile bridge.  I lost two hundred dollars betting all in on a pair of sixes, and then played three card poker which has horrible odds and lost another eighty, so I was not in the best mood because the tables were boring and the conversations were not as much fun as I usually have talking to people.

So here are two questions.   First, before the interstate systems in the late fifties and early sixties, how did truck traffic go from Navarre to New Orleans?  Did they go through downtown Pensacola?   What is the fastest method to get from the track to three mile bridge.  I will not play again until late February or March, but last night was like the fourth time I took a wrong turn which took me north instead of downtown.   I am used to squared off grid street systems, and I remember giving Bob a hard time about the Spanish setting up a great downtown, and then the Americans drew up the road system with all kinds of diagonal streets and chaos.......same folks who voted for Trump.  It reminds me of all the Bridges failing in North Escambia and Santa Rosa County.  They showed a photo of one of the bridges where people were running into each other on the bridge deck, and were blaming the motorist.  When you look at the photos of the old concrete guardrails on the bridge deck, some Einstein decided to run fricking steel guardrails onto the bridge deck inside the old concrete guardrails which narrowed the bridge and was contributing to people side swiping their vehicles on the bridge decks.......I think they need to replace a lot of these so called engineers with people who actually have worked in the private sector.  My rant is over.

I don't know the answer to the first question. The quickest way to downtown from Navy Blvd. is Barrancas to Pace Blvd., left on Main/Bayfront Pkwy.

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I think I am missing a sign when I head north. 98 heading east from the dog track makes this right angle return. I know I need to make a right turn, but I continue going east after that right turn, until I run into a T intersection where the choice is right or left. There is no signage which helps me, and I seem to turn left at that T when I should turn right. I am really after almost fifty years of driving in the Panhandle just not that familiar with the west side.

The reason I ask about the old road system is all the single story motels from like the forties which are on the west side. They look mostly like dives now, but I could imagine the huge amount of east west traffic which would drive through Pensacola before the interstate. In Illinois, before the interstate they had state routes which carried the traffic, and when they got to towns like Pensacola they had bypass routes for trucks to go around the town. I am just looking for that old route to get to Navarre without having to go up to ten and then back down to the dog track.

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MUCH easier and just as fast if not faster:

Coming out of the track turn RIGHT (south) onto Dog Track Road.  Go through one light, then continue a ways to the stop sign (as I recall this is a dead end but am not 100% sure - doesn't matter anyway).  Turn LEFT (east) at the stop sign onto Gulf Beach Highway, and just keep straight on Gulf Beach, which will eventually become Barrancas Blvd. once you cross Navy Blvd..   Continue straight on Barrancas, crossing over the Bayou Chico bridge and through the Pace Blvd. intersection.*  Barrancas then curves left but just stay on it, keep to the very far right lane and turn right at the first light onto Main Street.  Stay on Main, which becomes Bayfront Pkwy., which of course dumps you right onto the Three Mile Bridge.  

So really it's just Dog Track south to left (east) onto Gulf Beach Hwy., keep straight all the way to the right turn onto Main Street, and you're home free.

Easy peasy!  

As an added attraction if it were daytime, going that way you will pass Brothers BBQ on the right a few miles east of Dog Track.

*The Pace Blvd. intersection at the foot of the Bayou Chico Bridge offers another eating option; you can turn right at Pace and end up running smack into the "dead end" parking lot of the Oar House restaurant on the water, providing a great view of  boats heading in and out of the marina.  It's a favorite local eatery.  We're usually there at lunchtime and I can recommend their excellent batter fried shrimp basket.  Don't usually eat fried but it's really fresh, light and excellent.  I get the cheese grits instead of fries, but there are other sides, too.   Really have never had a bad meal there and the menu's pretty extensive, with the emphasis on seafood.



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Lol.....great directions and I knew you would mention Brothers BBQ. Oar House use to be a favorite of mine.

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Joanimaroni wrote:Lol.....great directions and I knew you would mention Brothers BBQ. Oar House use to be a favorite of mine.

Smile

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RealLinda told you the easiest way. But you can turn left out of the track, right at the light. go past my house and continue on until it dead ends at Navy Blvd. Turn left stay in the right lane and follow it until the bridge.. You asked people used to get to New Orleans? Well 3 mile bridge to 17 ave(Graffiti bridge) to Cervantes, left on Cervantes to Mobile Highway to Seminole, then over the train tracks in Roblersdale. then right into Loxley the road turns west(Now Old Spanish Trail) to Daphne then right to Spanish fort on the causeway to Mobiles Government street the on to Mississippi..Or you could go thru Foley. There was no "New 98" You took Cervantes street to the Circle, then left to Lillian hiway and followed it to the little wood bridge( Close to where the Hereon Bayou bride is now. Then on to Foley and 59 to Robertsdale" Or if you were adventurous you could take 98 thru Fairhope to Daphane".

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Thanks. I am going to need to print a google map and read your post with the map. I am familiar with so many areas but I have gotten turned around so easily when leaving the poker room late at night.

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Well I am going to try to get over and play, but I told the wife as bad as I am feeling I will probably have to go over during the day. I have lost the last seven times I have played. Not a lot, but still I left a loser. I do not think that has happened in a lifetime of playing poker. The truth is my skills simply have diminished. So driving in the daylight hopefully will get me to three mile bridge going east. I guess I could program the GPS, but I am going to try Linda's suggested route and hopefully I will not get turned around and end up in Biloxi......my wife would not believe me that I got lost.

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Sea I hope the directions help -- I tried to make them as clear as possible so you shouldn't get turned around.  Let us know how it goes - just hope you feel well enough to enjoy the trip, and maybe win a little this time.

Don't know what day you're going (obviously I may be too late), but again, if the timing is right I highly recommend a stop at Brothers BBQ on Gulf Beach Hwy. - maybe get some to go and share with Mrs. Seaoat?   Their pulled pork and brisket are wonderful -- smoked on the premises, moist and scrumptious.  (Chicken can sometimes be a little dry, we found.)  We usually get the very generous sandwiches (most served on a bun) but plenty of people seem to order and enjoy the plates.  All sides are good but I personally love the collard greens - homemade, meaty, and the tastiest ever.

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my health took a drop today after spending the day in bed yesterday. I did some painting and received equipment which will be installed on Monday today. I was doing ok in the morning and then it was like I hit a brick wall. I really do not think I will get to play poker this trip, and as my wife told a tenant this may be my last trip down, as the kids are coming down at the end of March, but this cancer is getting very aggressive and there are no rebounds now, and a return trip in March seems doubtful. I may get well enough to go, but it is so unfair to have my wife drive me there and have to sit around for a couple of hours. I will not do that as she has her hands full as it is. I will try the bbq, but honestly when the liver starts failing you have no hunger and things you love make you sick to your stomach. I have been very lucky on this journey not to have suffered these final stages earlier.

We did stop at scooters for an amberjack sandwich after doing a little work, and it was delicious, but I almost threw up eating the fries. They suddenly became like concrete going down with no flavor. I did not realize I had not talked to my wife during the entire meal. A neighbor wanted to visit when we got home as I scurried for the bathroom, I heard my wife tell him that he did not talk with me at lunch, and he does not feel well enough to talk to anybody........that is a rare event.

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I'm heavy hearted hearing resignation in your words. I'm sure that's a natural response... it's just hard.

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How long are you here for this trip, Sea?  I don't like thinking this is the last time, even while knowing there has to be a last time for everyone and everything.

Am also sorry about your increasing difficulties with the foods you normally enjoy -- a bummer, whether or not you've been lucky on that score 'til now -- and your occasional need to withdraw is duly noted.  Wish to hell we could just fix it, dammitall.

I understand and fully believe you when you say that keeping active has sustained you, but I suppose there comes a time of diminishing returns on that score, and am glad you're paying attention to whatever your body's telling you at this juncture.  (Not that you have a helluva lot of choice in the matter, I realize.)

We'll have rainy, stormy skies the next couple of days - perfect for napping - so maybe you can manage some restorative rest, even though I know you'd rather be active.   And as for the poker route, you wouldn't want to be traveling Bayfront Parkway Saturday afternoon/evening anyway, as portions of it will be closed off for long periods due to the Mardi Gras parade (weather permitting).

Maybe sometime next week you'll feel more like poker.   Would the wife be able to read a book while you play? She may have her hands full but also might need a little getaway from project realities herself.   Just wondering; have no idea, of course.

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I have my shots and blood work on the 21st. We planned to leave that Monday before. We will probably leave before that now, and stay in Illinois about a week, and return if I am up for it. I was then going to stay until about the 21st of march in Florida, and like last year drive up and immediately turn around to enjoy the grandkids who are arriving on the 23rd. I am simply not in any shape to do the same, and I do not see improvements in the horizon. So we may just skip early march and come down after the shot on the 21st of March. This spring break with all four of my grandchildren is important, but honestly I am living in some kind of fantasy world now that my slow cancer spread has become liver failure with the tumor load. I do not schedule or assume anything anymore as the guy upstairs controls the day to day.

I also must be less frank with what is going on as I remember my feelings when Bob was slipping away. I will try to clean this up in regard to the decline because giving the details at the end is depressing and not a topic for discussion much longer. However, not to be a smart asz, I do feel better this morning.

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Thanks for the recap.  If you think of it, please do let us know when you head back to IL so we won't be too concerned if we don't hear from you for a couple of days.  It does seem like an eminently smart move to come back after the shot on the 21st.  Really hope you can make it then for the grandkids' visit. But whatever -- I'm sure you and Mrs. Sea will figure it all out, day by day or otherwise.

As for "cleaning up" your posts as time wears on, I for one say there's no need.    So it's depressing, Sea - so it's life.  You've always been open and frank about your illness and there's no need for you to change who you are now.  I say share what you will with this group; you can trust us to care, and to continue to learn from you, whatever the realities are and however you handle them.  We're big boys and girls and can take it,  even though there'll surely be sadness.  

Others, especially determined Pollyanna types, may disagree, but they don't have to read anything that might disturb them.

Whatever you decide, of course, but I vote for Sea's being Sea for as long as he's willing and able.

I'll just add that what Bob shared as he was failing only showed his trust in the long friendships he had developed here - no need for pretending; he told it like it was. It never diminished him nor his memory, at least not in my book.

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Agreed... be candid. We already know that dying ain't fer sissies. You might have the easy job... lol.

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What Linda and Pkr said.

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Felt good enough to have breakfast today. We went to the beach to the new hotel. Good views, but it was raining and you were limited by the same. The prices are higher than on the mainland, but the quality of the breakfast was surprisingly good. I had the steak and eggs and I am used to getting a chewy piece of steak, but this steak melted in your mouth and was good sized. It easily made the price very worthwhile. The potatoes were great. The liver pain is increasing with no relief, but I made in and out of the house, and hope my work on Monday will possibly free me up for an early return if I am not feeling better. It is amazing how utterly and completely powerless I find myself as the liver fails. My butt has disappeared and was last seen floating in the surf. I did make up the stairs to the restaurant so my leg muscles are hanging in, but I am going to have to punch a new belt hole.........my pants are hanging on my hips as the liver bloat has created a gut which I never had to this extent. I feel like if I had a stint, my abdomen would drain, but if I were to guess late April or early may.

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Glad you were able to enjoy the Beach House Bar & Grill (including the potatoes!), and thanks for the review, Sea. Haven't tried it yet but wouldn't hesitate, not only because of your comments, but also, as I've said before, since the hotel ownership is the same as for Margaritaville on PBeach, which has an excellent restaurant -- Frank & Lola Love Pensacola Cafe. (And they have a garage underneath with elevators to the Lobby level where the eatery is located- no need to walk stairs or ramps, no need to get wet.)

Listening to you describe your liver pain reminds me I've been meaning to ask: what about the marijuana derivatives that helped so much a few months back?

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Pk nailed it about six months ago. The medical pot is great for the background pain, but now this liver pain is major and the medical pot is totally ineffective to even moderate the pain. When I got sick three weeks ago, I backed off the medications completely. I take my blood pressure and other required pills, but pain pills......I am on my own. The pain wears you down and I slept most of the day, and sometimes the pain simply stops without rhyme or reason. Again, none of this is unbearable yet, but it is my understanding when I enter that last three days of liver failure it will get ugly. I go to bed each night knowing that I may enter that final phase, and there is nothing anybody can do.

As a babyboomer I was spoiled since birth with medicine always having an answer, but cancer......it has not changed much since my grandfather died of lung cancer at the end.....at that point that man finds out how totally medival our tools are still........and in twenty years I would be rescued, but right now I have had the best and brightest extend my life almost five additional years, but the magic is done, and the rabbit has left the building.

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My bs was physiology minor cellular biology... the more I learned the more I realized how little we know.

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You went all in with a pair of 6s? OK
What beat you?

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RealLindaL wrote:Thanks for the recap.  If you think of it, please do let us know when you head back to IL so we won't be too concerned if we don't hear from you for a couple of days.  It does seem like an eminently smart move to come back after the shot on the 21st.  Really hope you can make it then for the grandkids' visit.   But whatever -- I'm sure you and Mrs. Sea will figure it all out, day by day or otherwise.

As for "cleaning up" your posts as time wears on, I for one say there's no need.    So it's depressing, Sea - so it's life.  You've always been open and frank about your illness and there's no need for you to change who you are now.  I say share what you will with this group; you can trust us to care, and to continue to learn from you, whatever the realities are and however you handle them.  We're big boys and girls and can take it,  even though there'll surely be sadness.  

Others, especially determined Pollyanna types, may disagree, but they don't have to read anything that might disturb them.

Whatever you decide, of course, but I vote for Sea's being Sea for as long as he's willing and able.  

I'll just add that what Bob shared as he was failing only showed his trust in the long friendships he had developed here - no need for pretending; he told it like it was.  It never diminished him nor his memory, at least not in my book.


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You went all in with a pair of 6s? OK
What beat you?


There were over cards on the board, and he hit one of the over cards. You do not go all in with multiple over cards on the board. It was simply a stupid bet at the dogtrack as there were tight retired folks playing. I am no longer a very good poker player.

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That's were most bad players spike a 6 on the river against me... lol.

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