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The stress of being a young American ... and the Opiod epidemic.

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We're about to enter WWIII, with a mad, narcissistic, woman-hating lying pervert who may have been illegally elected at the helm.  Healthcare, college, and a good paying job are getting more and more out of reach everyday.  The economy has been manipulated so only the rich get richer.  Hatred for minorities, non-Christians, LGBT, increases daily, and every week we hear of some hate group, KKK, neo-Nazis, marching and threatening everyone who is hopeful and sane. The hatred being pushed against immigrants coming into our country illegally because they have no future in their own --people who want to work hard where there is relative security and a real chance to succeed and raise their families. Our nation is becoming more and more divided every day. Our law enforcement officers, men and women, white and black have taken to enforcing their idea of what's right, without any rules. Young people, men and women, boys and girls, blacks and browns and greens are being beaten, brutalized and killed by these quasi-military gangs who call themselves cops.  The country is being run by old white people, and nobody is paying any attention to millennials who have chosen to avoid the conflict by not participating in any meaningful way.  The military has gone totally mad and is sending young Americans to be mutilated or die all over Africa, the MidEast, and Asia, in wars that are meant to never end.  Wages are stagnant and new college graduates end up working the line at McDonalds.  Environmentally, the coral reefs that are the building blocks of aquatic life are dying all over the southern oceans, hurricanes, droughts, forest fires, floods increase every year, and our 70-yr-old leaders who are addicted to donations by oil companies claim global warming is a Chinese hoax.

Here's the real truth: illicit use of drugs -- all over the world -- is always prevalent when poor people are badly stressed. Often, street drugs are one of the only ways to gain relief from a life of misery and stress.

Take a guess why so many young Americans are hooked and dying from Opiod use that almost always leads to heroin addiction and then fentanyl.

If you're one of the older assholes who insists on honoring brutalizing cops, standing for the National Anthem, and referring to every victimized young person in a uniform as a hero, you're as guilty as the kids on Opioids for destroying what was once a great country.

Reality.

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And meanwhile they're trying to ban kratom, which supposedly helps wean people off of opioids. They scream about the problem while trying to cut off the solutions. It's insane.

I've always been straightedge so I never messed with drugs, don't even drink... but I know plenty of people who have had big drug problems (they're usually Republicans' kids, oddly enough), and they seldom get addressed properly. It just goes ignored until it destroys 'em. In the South they just throw religion at it, and that almost never works... and yet they want to cut off alternative ways of handling it.

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zsomething wrote:And meanwhile they're trying to ban kratom, which supposedly helps wean people off of opioids.  They scream about the problem while trying to cut off the solutions.  It's insane.

I've always been straightedge so I never messed with drugs, don't even drink... but I know plenty of people who have had big drug problems (they're usually Republicans' kids, oddly enough), and they seldom get addressed properly.   It just goes ignored until it destroys 'em.  In the South they just throw religion at it, and that almost never works... and yet they want to cut off alternative ways of handling it.

Thanks for your input.

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zsomething wrote:And meanwhile they're trying to ban kratom, which supposedly helps wean people off of opioids.  They scream about the problem while trying to cut off the solutions.  It's insane.

I've always been straightedge so I never messed with drugs, don't even drink... but I know plenty of people who have had big drug problems (they're usually Republicans' kids, oddly enough), and they seldom get addressed properly.   It just goes ignored until it destroys 'em.  In the South they just throw religion at it, and that almost never works... and yet they want to cut off alternative ways of handling it.

Actually it was a Bipartisan effort to get the DEA to delay/stop the ban last year. Apparently facts are easy to ignore......

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Wordslinger wrote:
If you're one of the older assholes who insists on honoring brutalizing cops, standing for the National Anthem, and referring to every victimized young person in a uniform as a hero, you're as guilty as the kids on Opioids for destroying what was once a great country.

Amen.

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zsomething wrote:And meanwhile they're trying to ban kratom, which supposedly helps wean people off of opioids.  They scream about the problem while trying to cut off the solutions.  It's insane.

I've always been straightedge so I never messed with drugs, don't even drink... but I know plenty of people who have had big drug problems (they're usually Republicans' kids, oddly enough), and they seldom get addressed properly.   It just goes ignored until it destroys 'em.  In the South they just throw religion at it, and that almost never works... and yet they want to cut off alternative ways of handling it.

Actually it was a Bipartisan effort to get the DEA to delay/stop the ban last year. Apparently facts are easy to ignore......

Apparently neither party has acted to curtail big pharma's push to continue furnishing prescription opiods to feed the thousands of addicts they've created. That's a fact. As far as I know, the government is still avoiding the issue -- at the behest of lobbyists of big pharma. Any comment on this?

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Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:And meanwhile they're trying to ban kratom, which supposedly helps wean people off of opioids.  They scream about the problem while trying to cut off the solutions.  It's insane.

I've always been straightedge so I never messed with drugs, don't even drink... but I know plenty of people who have had big drug problems (they're usually Republicans' kids, oddly enough), and they seldom get addressed properly.   It just goes ignored until it destroys 'em.  In the South they just throw religion at it, and that almost never works... and yet they want to cut off alternative ways of handling it.

Actually it was a Bipartisan effort to get the DEA to delay/stop the ban last year. Apparently facts are easy to ignore......

Apparently neither party has acted to curtail big pharma's push to continue furnishing prescription opiods to feed the thousands of addicts they've created.  That's a fact.  As far as I know, the government is still avoiding the issue -- at the behest of lobbyists of big pharma.  Any comment on this?

Apparently both party's have:

"Senate bill 892, the Opioid Addiction Prevention Act of 2017. The proposed legislation defines conditions of acute pain and tells physicians how they may prescribe for them.

This bipartisan bill, offered by Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), would require physicians who prescribe opioids to certify, in order to secure registration or renewal of registration under the Controlled Substances Act, that they would, to treat acute pain, not write a prescription for more than a 7-day supply of an opioid. Further, the bill prohibits the refill of such prescriptions for acute pain. It does appear that the bill would not prohibit a physician to treat acute pain that lasts for more than 7 days by issuing serial 7-day,but nonrefillable prescriptions."

http://www.fdalawblog.net/fda_law_blog_hyman_phelps/2017/04/new-legislation-seeks-limits-on-opioid-prescriptions-for-acute-pain-but-will-it-reduce-opioid-abuse-.html

That was easy enough to find.....

If you want address the issue seriously what are YOUR solutions besides throwing rocks?

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You have to understand how a temporary ban works before you can have an intelligent conversation about the merits of the ban. If you read the entire regulatory findings and discussions, I think you will agree that it is not as clear cut as one might think. I have received great relief from medical pot, but there is 30years of objective medical testing of the same. Potency and objective benefits are clear. I think an expedited fact finding and collection of beneficial outcomes are important to use this as medicine. You should start in Southeast Asia where this herb has years and years of use and benefits. The regulatory process is a double edged sword, in some cases a drug is released without enough review, and as in the case of medical pot, forty years of foot dragging.

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DEA-2016-0015-0003

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2seaoat wrote:  I have received great relief from medical pot, but there is 30years of objective medical testing of the same.

Good for you! I have received great relief from recreational pot with 50 or so years of subjective informal testing of the same.

It's only taken conservatives half-a-century to wise-up to the fact that weed is a relatively benign intoxicant--further evidence that most conservatives are dolts.

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gatorfan wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:And meanwhile they're trying to ban kratom, which supposedly helps wean people off of opioids.  They scream about the problem while trying to cut off the solutions.  It's insane.

I've always been straightedge so I never messed with drugs, don't even drink... but I know plenty of people who have had big drug problems (they're usually Republicans' kids, oddly enough), and they seldom get addressed properly.   It just goes ignored until it destroys 'em.  In the South they just throw religion at it, and that almost never works... and yet they want to cut off alternative ways of handling it.

Actually it was a Bipartisan effort to get the DEA to delay/stop the ban last year. Apparently facts are easy to ignore......

Apparently neither party has acted to curtail big pharma's push to continue furnishing prescription opiods to feed the thousands of addicts they've created.  That's a fact.  As far as I know, the government is still avoiding the issue -- at the behest of lobbyists of big pharma.  Any comment on this?

Apparently both party's have:

"Senate bill 892, the Opioid Addiction Prevention Act of 2017. The proposed legislation defines conditions of acute pain and tells physicians how they may prescribe for them.

This bipartisan bill, offered by Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), would require physicians who prescribe opioids to certify, in order to secure registration or renewal of registration under the Controlled Substances Act, that they would, to treat acute pain, not write a prescription for more than a 7-day supply of an opioid. Further, the bill prohibits the refill of such prescriptions for acute pain. It does appear that the bill would not prohibit a physician to treat acute pain that lasts for more than 7 days by issuing serial 7-day,but nonrefillable prescriptions."

http://www.fdalawblog.net/fda_law_blog_hyman_phelps/2017/04/new-legislation-seeks-limits-on-opioid-prescriptions-for-acute-pain-but-will-it-reduce-opioid-abuse-.html

That was easy enough to find.....

If you want address the issue seriously what are YOUR solutions besides throwing rocks?

OK. Stop arresting addicts but put them into withdrawal therapy. Stop allowing physicians to prescribe opiods to cover more than seven days' supply. Vigorously pursue pharma companies who are caught dealing their wares to anyone other than a legitimate pharmacy. Estimate how many drugs would be necessary to take care of current addicts and patients, and make whatever moves are necessary to shut off any amount of opiods beyond the immediate needs. Remove all laws that give opiod manufacturers any sort of advantage over the DEA.

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Wordslinger wrote:
 Remove all laws that give opiod manufacturers any sort of advantage over the DEA.

And put a few of the fuckers in jail, starting with the Sackler family of Perdue Pharmaceutical, the manufacturers of Oxycontin.

The richest newcomer to Forbes 2015 list of America’s Richest Families comes in at a stunning $14 billion. The Sackler family, which owns Stamford, Conn.-based Purdue Pharma, flew under the radar when Forbes launched its initial list of wealthiest families in July 2014, but this year they crack the top-20, edging out storied families like the Busches, Mellons and Rockefellers.

How did the Sacklers build the 16th-largest fortune in the country? The short answer: making the most popular and controversial opioid of the 21st century -- OxyContin.

Purdue, 100% owned by the Sacklers, has generated estimated sales of more than $35 billion since releasing its time-released, supposedly addiction-proof version of the painkiller oxycodone back in 1995. Its annual revenues are about $3 billion, still mostly from OxyContin. The Sacklers also own separate drug companies that sell to Asia, Latin America, Canada and Europe, together generating similar total sales as Purdue’s operation in the United States.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexmorrell/2015/07/01/the-oxycontin-clan-the-14-billion-newcomer-to-forbes-2015-list-of-richest-u-s-families/#e58226e75e02

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