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Two hours from the first shot to a swat team blowing the door

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Deus X

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It might be useful to remember that Mandalay Bay is owned by Mandalay Resort Group which used to be Circus Circus Enterprises, the same tacky casino organization Hunter S. Thompson wrote about so bitingly in his brilliant masterwork Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: A Savage Journey to the Heart of the American Dream.

They don't give a shit about anything but fleecing the sheep. All their security is concerned with is protecting the casinos from getting taken by cheats and scam artists. As HST puts it: "If Charlie Manson checked into the Sahara tomorrow morning, nobody would hassle him if he tipped big." They don't give a shit about anyone outside their casinos.

If you listen to the sheriff, the shills and the tame county officials at the press conferences, you realize that the the only the that really concerns them now is telling the world that they never imagined something like this could happen and that Las Vegas is still safe to visit. A savage journey indeed.

2seaoat



Agree. Right now they are facing the same safety concerns to the public which they faced after the MGM fire. Despite the fantasy of what is currently being sold to the public, this was a massive failure and those who failed are more concerned in not costing the casinos any more money to make it safe. Venture into a large venue in America at your own risk because one thing is certain......our police state is primarily nothing more than the old slave militas, and actually deterring crime is a distant second place. They openly and in front of the world said they could never have imagined an elevated sniper shooting from a hotel in Vegas, and then began talking about their collective heroism in getting this guy. The truth. Clark County officials serve the Casinos. An hour and twenty minutes passed before they breached the door. The gunman shot himself. The cost to put window monitoring systems in the casino will be large. End of discussion.....until the next shooter.

PkrBum

PkrBum

Except that you've been wrong from your thread title to this summation. The police response was sound.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


The shooter's father was a notorious bank robber:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-las-vegas-shooter-family-from-chicago-20171003-story.html

2seaoat



keystone cops.......the illusion is maintained every time by immediate false praise and then the truth comes out.....event after event in our police state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-latest-hotel-questions-new-timeline-of-vegas-shooting/ar-AAtgOT3?li=BBnb7Kz

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Floridatexan wrote:
The shooter's father was a notorious bank robber:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-las-vegas-shooter-family-from-chicago-20171003-story.html


It was reported the day after the shooting.

2seaoat



"This changes everything," said Joseph Giacalone, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and a former New York City police sergeant. "There absolutely was an opportunity in that timeframe that some of this could've been mitigated."

Giacalone added: "By engaging the shooter ahead of time during this event, it could've saved a lot of heartache."

Deus X

Deus X

2seaoat wrote:"This changes everything," said Joseph Giacalone, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and a former New York City police sergeant. "There absolutely was an opportunity in that timeframe that some of this could've been mitigated."

Giacalone added: "By engaging the shooter ahead of time during this event, it could've saved a lot of heartache."

And the event wasn't an hour old before the cop apologists were out front declaring what a great job the "brave" men in blue had done. At the first press conference, that fat piece-of-shit Sisolak, a Clark County commissioner, practically snatched the microphone away to proclaim what a great job the first responders had done.

Yeah, right, the SWAT team hid in the hall until any danger was past then blew the door and "stormed" the room. What a bunch of cowards.

The Sheriff is quoted as saying "I think they prevented a thousand deaths..." HAH! The only thing they prevented was any risk of injury to themselves.

Before the Las Vegas massacre began, a wounded Mandalay Bay hotel security guard called hotel officials to warn them about a gunman on the 32nd floor, an investigator told the Los Angeles Times on Tuesday.

But police did not arrive at the room where the guard had been shot until after Stephen Paddock had finished a 10-minute shooting rampage on a crowd gathered below for a country music festival, the investigation now shows

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-las-vegas-guard-20171010-story.html

Even Fox News is calling them out on this:

Judge Andrew Napolitano, Fox News’ senior judicial analyst, said on “Cavuto: Coast to Coast,” that the news from the new timeline is not that the security guard was shot earlier than previously stated, but that the news was "that the agent of the hotel who should have been carrying with him a recording device -- a device which would have allowed the head of security or somebody in security to listen in – was shot at 200 times by an automatic weapon.”

He continued, “So Mandalay Bay knew of the existence and presence and workability of the automatic weapon six minutes before he started killing people. That should have triggered an enormous response,” he said, considering the argument lawyers could make to a jury, if it gets to that point.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/11/mgm-resorts-disputes-las-vegas-police-timeline-shooting.html

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