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Once again it is proven that the military is mostly about making MIC rich. We have almost 40k American troops in Korea, yet it took almost a week to get troops in Our military police state to help American Citizens. When the vulnerability of the paper tiger American military is exposed, maybe we will go back to the paradigm where defending American citizens becomes our first priority, and not bombing hospitals and using armaments to make profits for MIC......No more fly overs and military demonstrations at public gatherings, and much more rapid help for American citizens.....a simple paradigm which only requires common sense and the ability to say no to MIC and their shills in Congress and the Pentagon. There is hope for America, but it starts with making the military footprint in America much much much smaller.

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After an earthquake shattered Haiti’s capital on Jan. 12, 2010, the U.S. military mobilized as if it were going to war.

Before dawn the next morning, an Army unit was airborne, on its way to seize control of the main airport in Port-au-Prince. Within two days, the Pentagon had 8,000 American troops en route. Within two weeks, 33 U.S. military ships and 22,000 troops had arrived. More than 300 military helicopters buzzed overhead, delivering millions of pounds of food and water.

No two disasters are alike. Each delivers customized violence that cannot be fully anticipated. But as criticism of the federal government’s initial response to the crisis in Puerto Rico continued to mount Thursday, the mission to Haiti — an island nation several hundred miles from the U.S. mainland — stands as an example of how quickly relief efforts can be mobilized.

By contrast, eight days after Hurricane Maria ripped across neighboring Puerto Rico, just 4,400 service members were participating in federal operations to assist the devastated island, an Army general told reporters Thursday. In addition, about 1,000 Coast Guard members were aiding the efforts. About 40 U.S. military helicopters were helping to deliver food and water to the 3.4 million residents of the U.S. territory, along with 10 Coast Guard helicopters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-responded-to-haiti-quake-more-forcefully-than-to-puerto-rico-disaster/2017/09/28/74fe9c02-a465-11e7-8cfe-d5b912fabc99_story.html?utm_term=.b4f62cd6acd0

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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/andres-oppenheimer/article175537031.html

Trump’s response to Puerto Rico’s Hurricane Maria: slow, unenthusiastic and mean

BY ANDRÉS OPPENHEIMER
aoppenheimer@miamiherald.com

SEPTEMBER 26, 2017 3:48 PM

President Trump's slow, unenthusiastic and — yes — mean response to the humanitarian crisis facing Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria is astonishing. He seems oblivious to the fact that the 3.4 million people living there are Americans, in many cases more patriotic than he is.

First, let's talk about Trump's delayed response to the disaster. While Trump visited Texas twice within a week shortly after Hurricane hit that state, and traveled to Florida five days after Hurricane Irma, he made no immediate plans to visit Puerto Rico.

Facing a barrage of criticism in the media and tweets from — among others — former Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton for ignoring the natural disaster in Puerto Rico, the White House announced Tuesday that Trump would visit the island on Oct. 3. It will be almost two weeks after the storm.

But that's a minor detail compared to the lack of interest Trump showed in the days that followed Hurricane Maria's Sept. 20 passage through Puerto Rico.

In the five days that followed, after the hurricane had left the entire island without electricity and half of it without water, Trump wrote only one tweet about Puerto Rico's tragedy — a message to the island's governor, Ricardo Rossello, saying, “We are with you.” By comparison, during the same period Trump wrote 17 tweets related to his claim that NFL athletes who kneel during the national anthem disrespect the flag.

There are legitimate reasons to wonder whether Trump has any credentials to give NFL players lessons about patriotism. “A great way to show respect for the flag is to refuse offers of clandestine election assistance from hostile foreign espionage agencies,” wrote The Atlantic magazine editor David Frum, referring to Trump's cozy ties with Russia during the campaign.

More to the point, it was utterly insensitive to start a debate over respect to the flag in the middle of the Puerto Rico tragedy. After several days of Trump's silence on Puerto Rico, singer Marc Anthony — whose parents are Puerto Rican — tweeted on Sept. 25, “Mr. President shut the [expletive] up about NFL. Do something about our people in need in Puerto Rico. We are American citizens too.”

When Trump finally reacted to the avalanche of criticism, he did it with a tweet that sounded mean, if not cruel. Trump said in a tweet that Puerto Rico is in “deep trouble” after Hurricane Maria, and that its billions of dollars in debts to Wall Street banks “must be dealt with.”

Puerto Rico is bankrupt, and it must reach a deal with Wall Street banks to get back on its feet. But Trump's tweet was the equivalent of lecturing a patient who is rushed into the emergency room in critical condition about the need to eat healthier and exercise.

“It is inconceivable that at a time like this, when hospitals in Puerto Rico don't have electricity, half of the island is without water, and people's lives are endangered by the threat of epidemics, that the president is worrying about Wall Street's interests,” says Edwin Melendez, director of the center for Puerto Rican Studies at Hunter College in New York.

Melendez told me that he has not been able to talk with his son and grandson on the island since the hurricane hit almost a week ago. He learned only that they are safe after speaking to a relative with access to a satellite phone.

At the very least, Trump should use his executive power to send more army engineers to the island. Puerto Rico needs boots on the ground to restore water and electricity services, and to rebuild roads and bridges.

In addition, Trump should exempt Puerto Rico from a FEMA regulation that requires local governments to pay 25 percent matching funds for certain types of emergency assistance. Puerto Rico's economy is totally paralyzed. It can't pay, even if it wanted to.

Finally, Trump should waive the so called Jones Act, a U.S. protectionist measure from the 1920s that requires that only American ships carry goods from one U.S. port to another. It is now preventing foreign ships coming from the U.S. mainland from bringing relief supplies to the island.

Above all, Trump must understand that — whether he likes them or not — Puerto Ricans are American citizens. More than 200,000 Puerto Ricans have served in the U.S. armed forces since 1917, including 48,000 during the Vietnam War (the same war that Trump avoided serving in by requesting several draft deferments.) They deserve better treatment.

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/01/flashback-san-juan-mayor-praised-fema-response-on-tuesday-video/

“Of course, the FEMA people–which have been wonderful, and have been here since last week–helping us and setting up logistics because it is a massive endeavor that we have to deal with,” Carmen Yulin Cruz said on CNN on September 26.

“Have no doubt, first of all, that we appreciate all the help,” she continued during the phone interview. “We appreciate all the FEMA workers who are here, they’re doing such a great job.”

Cruz’s comments on September 26 stand in stark contrast to her recent criticisms of the federal response that have landed her nonstop TV interviews.

“We are dying, and you are killing us with the inefficiency, and the bureaucracy,” Cruz said on September 30. “I am done being politically correct. I am mad as hell.”

Cruz’s shift in tone led Trump to attack her, accusing her of flip-flopping to appease the liberal media. Cruz hit back at Trump, asserting that he is used to dealing with women who “need to be told what to do.”

FEMA Chief Brock Long ultimately joined in on the battle, telling CNN that Cruz is out of touch with relief efforts because she isn’t in contact with the central field office.

“The problem that we have with the mayor unfortunately is that unity of command is ultimately what’s needed to be successful in this response,” Long told CNN’s Fredricka Whitfield. “What we need is for the mayor, the good mayor, to make her way to the joint field office and get plugged into what’s going on and be successful.”

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FEMA Chief Brock Long ultimately joined in on the battle, telling CNN that Cruz is out of touch with relief efforts because she isn’t in contact with the central field office.

“The problem that we have with the mayor unfortunately is that unity of command is ultimately what’s needed to be successful in this response,” Long told CNN’s Fredricka Whitfield. “What we need is for the mayor, the good mayor, to make her way to the joint field office and get plugged into what’s going on and be successful.”

The FEMA chief blames the Mayor! The mind reels.

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Gov. Ricardo A. Rosselló seems to think things are progressing, a little slow at first but increasing. The Mayor is only aware of her city - not the whole effort across the island. It's a tough logistical problem and anyone who thinks throwing thousands of people at it without solving some of those logistical problems first will solve anything must be smoking crack.

Comparing the PR response against Haiti is folly, two totally different problems requiring totally different responses. Also, the U.S. had some assets nearby Haiti that enabled quicker response initially without having to dodge the remnants of a HURRICANE to get there.

But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/30/exclusive-fellow-puerto-rico-mayor-rips-san-juan-mayor-shes-not-participating-in-any-meetings/

The mayor of Guaynabo, Puerto Rico cast serious doubt Saturday on the claims made by San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, who has repeatedly attacked President Trump and accused him of abandoning Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.

Guaynabo’s mayor, Angel Perez, said in an interview with The Daily Caller that his experience with the federal government has been different from Cruz’s, in part because — unlike Cruz — he has been participating in meetings with officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and other federal agencies.

Cruz has repeatedly accused Trump and the federal government of abandoning Puerto Rico. She demanded in a press conference on Friday that Trump do more to help the island, adding that “we are going to see is something close to a genocide” if more is not done.

Mayor Perez told TheDC that the story Cruz is telling the media doesn’t mesh with what he has seen from the federal government.

“My experience is different. I have been participating in different meetings at the headquarters of FEMA and our government and the help is coming in and right now my experience is different from hers. I’m receiving help from the government, we are receiving assistance from FEMA, I got people over here helping us with applications for the people that have damage in their houses. And we have here in Guaynabo, we have thousands of people that lost partially or totally their houses,” said Perez, who is a member of Puerto Rico’s New Progressive Party.

Perez’s comments echoed what FEMA administrator Brock Long said on Saturday. Long defended Trump’s tweets blasting Cruz and indicated that Cruz has failed to connect with the FEMA command center set up on the island to help with the relief effort.

When asked about Cruz’s “genocide” statement, Perez said, “I don’t know why she is saying that. What I can tell you is my experience. She is not participating in any meetings and we had a couple already with the governors and with representation of FEMA and of HUD, of these whole federal agencies that have given us help and she’s not participating in those meetings and some mayors from her political party have been participating, so I don’t know why she is saying that. My experience is very different.”

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PkrBoy is a reactionary dupe and a fool. Here's the full story of the character assassination of San Juan's mayor:

Sunday, October 01, 2017
THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF SAN JUAN'S MAYOR BEGINS
The right has declared war -- not against ISIS or Kim Jong Un, but against a mayor in a U.S. territory. Carmen Yulín Cruz of San Juan has criticized the Trump administration's response to the hurricane devastation in Puerto Rico, so of course she must be destroyed. The conservative media is fully mobilized.

I'm sure there'll be more attacks on the mayor. You can say that this is a uniquely Trumpian attack, but the right is ready to back him up because attacks like this are standard operating procedure on the right. Remember Sandra Fluke? Remember Graeme Frost? The right refuses to allow anyone to seize the moral high ground from a Republican. The inevitable response is war.

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-character-assassination-of-san.html

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But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings. Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency. If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service. We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

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The Daily Caller routinely makes stuff up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller

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2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

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gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

If you removed your head from your gluteous maximus you might see some reality.

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Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

If you removed your head from your gluteous maximus you might see some reality.  

From your posts I can tell you wouldn't recognize reality if it hit you in the face. Solved the Twin Towers conspiracy yet????

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gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

If you removed your head from your gluteous maximus you might see some reality.  

From your posts I can tell you wouldn't recognize reality if it hit you in the face. Solved the Twin Towers conspiracy yet????

Yes, I have. Bush & Cheney were definitely involved.

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Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

If you removed your head from your gluteous maximus you might see some reality.  

From your posts I can tell you wouldn't recognize reality if it hit you in the face. Solved the Twin Towers conspiracy yet????

Yes, I have.  Bush & Cheney were definitely involved.

Incredible! You have done the impossible! Think about that comment. When are you going to file charges?

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gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

If you removed your head from your gluteous maximus you might see some reality.  

From your posts I can tell you wouldn't recognize reality if it hit you in the face. Solved the Twin Towers conspiracy yet????

Yes, I have.  Bush & Cheney were definitely involved.

Incredible! You have done the impossible! Think about that comment. When are you going to file charges?

It was planned and could not have happened as it did without the cooperation of people in power at the time.

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Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

If you removed your head from your gluteous maximus you might see some reality.  

From your posts I can tell you wouldn't recognize reality if it hit you in the face. Solved the Twin Towers conspiracy yet????

Yes, I have.  Bush & Cheney were definitely involved.

Incredible! You have done the impossible! Think about that comment. When are you going to file charges?

It was planned and could not have happened as it did without the cooperation of people in power at the time.

OMG FT, please, PLEASE tell me you don't buy into conspiracy theories involving Bush, Cheney, or any other US citizen in 9/11.   PLEASE.

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RealLindaL wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:But you armchair quarterbacks should know that.

Heaven forbid should somebody expect Navy ships not to run into tankers, and Fema having a response center on Puerto Rico with supplies in Hurricane proof buildings.  Idiocy and once again giving a pass to utter incompetency.   If the American private sector ran their forecasts and capacity planning like the numbskulls who seem to find government service.  We got helicopters to Texas and Florida, but with three days lead time that Puerto Rico was going to get hit a SECOND time, two weeks later we are talking about a hospital ship being sent.....yea....armchair QBs...

You have become totally ignorant of reality. I feel sorry for you.

If you removed your head from your gluteous maximus you might see some reality.  

From your posts I can tell you wouldn't recognize reality if it hit you in the face. Solved the Twin Towers conspiracy yet????

Yes, I have.  Bush & Cheney were definitely involved.

Incredible! You have done the impossible! Think about that comment. When are you going to file charges?

It was planned and could not have happened as it did without the cooperation of people in power at the time.

OMG FT, please, PLEASE tell me you don't buy into conspiracy theories involving Bush, Cheney, or any other US citizen in 9/11.   PLEASE.

A conspiracy, Linda, is 2 or more people engaged in a plot. The so-called official story doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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a9A conspiracy, Linda, is 2 or more people engaged in a plot. The so-called official story doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

I honestly believe that any real conpirators would want cover with fuzzy thinking building 7, a missile in the pentagon, and precharged explosives in the tower........Bob was simply correct on all those silly conspiracies charges, but what about deep links with Cia from Afghanastan, which suddenly disappeared.......they have sealed bin Laden raid files under national security.....we need somebody assuring Congress that links were not involved. I cannot prove any conspiracy, but I find most conspiracy theories deal in these absurd motives........Making money as MIC shills can have America spend 6 Trillion and still spending was so simple......funding to Bin Laden and creating the need to protect to client states with American blood and wealth..

Saudi Arabia and Israel financed ISIS in Syria to forment civil war........simple geopolitical realities jump out......Saudis corrupt regime is protected by America and so is Israel......oh and isis illusion......four more years of entirely unnecessary war.

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Floridatexan wrote:A conspiracy, Linda, is 2 or more people engaged in a plot.  The so-called official story doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

You don't need to define conspiracy for me, FT, thanks. What did I do, forget to put the "s" on "citizens"?

There's hardly a thing that happens in this world that can't be said by someone not to stand up to their scrutiny, or to the scrutiny of others they've personally chosen to believe. That doesn't prove the existence of a nefarious plot or conspiracy, not by a long shot.

To actually posit that serving U.S. politicians would knowingly have participated in facilitating such a horrific tragedy on our own soil is simply beyond the pale, FT. Bush and Cheney have children, too, you know, and to think they would knowingly have orphaned so many...I could never in a million years understand how you could possibly believe this.

Not that you'll likely care, but I don't mind confessing I'm deeply shocked and disappointed. Obviously, of course, I don't know you at all, so I shouldn't be -- but there you are.

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2seaoat wrote:a9A conspiracy, Linda, is 2 or more people engaged in a plot. The so-called official story doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

I honestly believe that any real conpirators would want cover with fuzzy thinking building 7, a missile in the pentagon, and precharged explosives in the tower........Bob was simply correct on all those silly conspiracies charges, but what about deep links with Cia from Afghanastan, which suddenly disappeared.......they have sealed bin Laden raid files under national security.....we need somebody assuring Congress that links were not involved.   I cannot prove any conspiracy, but I find most conspiracy theories deal in these absurd motives........Making money as MIC shills  can have America spend 6 Trillion and still spending was so simple......funding to Bin Laden and creating the need to protect to client states with American blood and wealth..

Saudi Arabia and Israel financed ISIS in Syria to forment civil war........simple geopolitical realities jump out......Saudis corrupt regime is protected by America and so is Israel......oh and isis illusion......four more years of entirely unnecessary war.

If you label everything a conspiracy theory and immediately conclude that anyone believing something other than the official account is a loon, then you destroy any semblance of critical thought on the matter. You have just blamed ISIS on Israel and the Saudi royals, the very same countries that I believe were complicit in 9/11, but not without inside help. All our safeguards suddenly disappeared or were otherwise occupied? The tallest buildings in NYC just burned up from jet fuel...something that has never happened before or since? And what happened after the attacks? There...right there...is the tell. Bob was one of my dearest friends, but Bob was looking to disprove the involvement of our government. I didn't want to believe it either...but the evidence says otherwise.

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Floridatexan wrote: I didn't want to believe it either...but the evidence says otherwise.

"The evidence" as presented by those YOU have chosen to believe. Period.

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I'm in San Juan and have not seen any troops or fema folks. Hopefully they are out in the sticks helping people.

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