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2 Re: Sr is now threatening Republicans on 7/24/2017, 12:12 am

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I don't see it as a threat. I see it as the consequences of letting something remain in place that wasn't designed to last based upon how it was constructed. It was designed to fail so that single payer could be put into place when it did collapse. Both parties have to work together on this to fix it. Right now that is not going to happen. You can blame the Donkeys for creating it and you can blame the Elephants for not attempting to fix it. Given the political fervor on this issue, both parties are to blame for never working together on it. Unless we are all willing to give up 35-40 percent of our pretax income and live a life with less available money, we can't afford government run healthcare. You can look at the Social Security System and the VA to see how inept our government is at running these boondoggles. Both are failures. One is going bankrupt by 2027 unless cuts are made to what is paid out and the other kills people. Either example is bad.

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NPAatall wrote:I don't see it as a threat.  I see it as the consequences of letting something remain in place that wasn't designed to last based upon how it was constructed. It was designed to fail so that single payer could be put into place when it did collapse. Both parties have to work together on this to fix it.  Right now that is not going to happen.  You can blame the Donkeys for creating it and you can blame the Elephants for not attempting to fix it. Given the political fervor on this issue, both parties are to blame for never working together on it.  Unless we are all willing to give up 35-40 percent of our pretax income and live a life with less available money, we can't afford government run healthcare. You can look at the Social Security System and the VA to see how inept our government is at running these boondoggles. Both are failures. One is going bankrupt by 2027 unless cuts are made to what is paid out and the other kills people. Either example is bad.

Medicare is a very well run govt. program. We can afford govt. run healthcare. What you meant to say is people don't want to give up the greed of private healthcare and keep the staus quo of the rich. We have plenty of money for govt. healthcare. What we don't have is our people as priorities especially the middle class and poor. Give up all that other useless shit like helping foreign countries,million dollar inaugurations, secret service for cousin Billy, medicare fraud, studies for pee washing in Africa,$500 hammers for the Defense Dept.,farm aid or rich farmers and on and on and on!

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NPAatall wrote:I don't see it as a threat.  I see it as the consequences of letting something remain in place that wasn't designed to last based upon how it was constructed. It was designed to fail so that single payer could be put into place when it did collapse. Both parties have to work together on this to fix it.  Right now that is not going to happen.  You can blame the Donkeys for creating it and you can blame the Elephants for not attempting to fix it. Given the political fervor on this issue, both parties are to blame for never working together on it.  Unless we are all willing to give up 35-40 percent of our pretax income and live a life with less available money, we can't afford government run healthcare. You can look at the Social Security System and the VA to see how inept our government is at running these boondoggles.Both are failures. One is going bankrupt by 2027 unless cuts are made to what is paid out and the other kills people. Either example is bad.

I couldn't figure out what NPA stood for until I got to this last sentence. Obviously it stands for Non Performing Asset, the asset in question being the poster's intelligence.

Since the Federal government is the only source of US$ and since it can create as many of them as it needs to perform it's functions, it is, by definition, impossible for it to become insolvent. In this regard, it's like the Bank in Monopoly, it cannot run out of money.

The assertion that the Veterans Administration is killing people is so ridiculous that is doesn't deserve refutation.

Obviously, the person who wrote this post is either a brain-damaged dolt or lying.

Social Security is not "going bankrupt" and the VA is not "killing people". DUH!

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NPAatall wrote:I don't see it as a threat.  I see it as the consequences of letting something remain in place that wasn't designed to last based upon how it was constructed. It was designed to fail so that single payer could be put into place when it did collapse.

It was NOT designed to fail; rather it was designed as a stepping stone to single payer.  And the opposition was fierce...the GOP voted to repeal Obamacare more than 50 times and challenged the law in the courts.  Many states refused to implement it.  And in 2013, Marco Rubio and friends defunded the risk corridors...the pool of money set aside to buoy up the insurance companies through the transition.


Both parties have to work together on this to fix it.

Yet the GOP sent 10 men into a closed door session, excluding even members of their own party.



Right now that is not going to happen.  You can blame the Donkeys for creating it and you can blame the Elephants for not attempting to fix it. Given the political fervor on this issue, both parties are to blame for never working together on it.

This is a pathetic attempt at false equivalency.  The model for the bill came from the Heritage Foundation and was first implemented in Massachusetts when Mitt Romney was governor.  And the assertion that Republicans didn't participate in the passage of Obamacare is a lie.

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/141557/dems-ram-obamacare-congress-no-debate-lets-consult-calendar-oh-look-republicans-lying

Did Dems ram Obamacare through Congress with no debate? Let’s consult the calendar. Oh look! Republicans were lying. Today is Obamacare’s seventh anniversary. It is also the day House Republicans will try to pass a bill that would repeal Obamacare—a gratuitous thumb in the eye of anyone who helped write or pass the Affordable Care Act, or who has benefitted from it since. The technical term for this is a “dick move,” but it’s also a useful marker for the journalism community, where it’s fashionable to draw equivalence between both parties, and treat all partisan spin as worthy of unchallenged amplification.
For instance, Republicans have claimed for seven years now that Democrats rushed Obamacare through Congress without debate, and will use this claim as cover for doing the same..."


Unless we are all willing to give up 35-40 percent of our pretax income and live a life with less available money, we can't afford government run healthcare. You can look at the Social Security System and the VA to see how inept our government is at running these boondoggles. Both are failures. One is going bankrupt by 2027 unless cuts are made to what is paid out and the other kills people. Either example is bad.

SS and the VA are NOT failing.  That is a lie.  And there are cost savings to be realized...price negotiations for pharmaceuticals, for one.  The bills from the GOP...both the House and Senate versions, are ready for File 13...they are garbage bills that hurt families.  Even the idiots who voted for Trump are beginning to take notice.

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The VA and Social Security are totally broken and represent government dysfunction. How about the Charlie Gard case? Another example of how government will take people's rights away at the drop of a hat and screw up a decision.

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NPAatall wrote:The VA and Social Security are totally broken and represent government dysfunction. How about the Charlie Gard case? Another example of how government will take people's rights away at the drop of a hat and screw up a decision.

Hmm-m-m... and who could this be?

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9 Re: Sr is now threatening Republicans on 7/24/2017, 12:36 pm

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NPAatall wrote:The VA and Social Security are totally broken and represent government dysfunction. How about the Charlie Gard case? Another example of how government will take people's rights away at the drop of a hat and screw up a decision.

Hmm-m-m...     and who could this be?

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10 Re: Sr is now threatening Republicans on 7/24/2017, 12:58 pm

NPAatall wrote:The VA and Social Security are totally broken and represent government dysfunction. How about the Charlie Gard case? Another example of how government will take people's rights away at the drop of a hat and screw up a decision.

The Gard case is a medical decision. They do that here based on the best interests of the child especially in cases of religious fanatics. I disagree w/ their decision if the child is going to die anyway and think if he has a 10% chance it should be given.

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11 Re: Sr is now threatening Republicans on 7/24/2017, 2:16 pm

NPAatall wrote:The VA and Social Security are totally broken and represent government dysfunction. How about the Charlie Gard case? Another example of how government will take people's rights away at the drop of a hat and screw up a decision.

That is your OPINION with no basis in fact and nothing presented to back it up. As for the case of the baby, that is anecdotal. At this time, I don't know enough about it to even relate it to the subject at hand. If it's anything like the Schiavo case, politics needs to be left out of the equation.



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12 Re: Sr is now threatening Republicans on 7/24/2017, 5:35 pm

Wow is pissy dawg back with a new sock already? Very Happy

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