Vikingwoman wrote:The female officer wasn't unprofessional. No officer should have to be abused by a citizen. Oatie has issues w/ this stuff and as I said before cannot gauge appropriate behavior.
You're so right, Viking.
Vikingwoman wrote:The female officer wasn't unprofessional. No officer should have to be abused by a citizen. Oatie has issues w/ this stuff and as I said before cannot gauge appropriate behavior.
Vikingwoman wrote:IMASOCK wrote:I'm ALWAYS courteous to cops. I was married to one for 8 years. Y'all need to think of the interactions they have with the public. 99.5% are negative. I had a cop in Milton pull me over and I was being polite, asking to put my hands in my pockets, reach places on my motorcycle....he finally asked, "what is your problem?" I let him know I was married to a cop and didn't want an altercation. He asked me why act like I was and I told him I was married to a cop and he asked me who and I let him know....he said out of respect for your spouse, I am letting you out of the ticket for your behavior.
Would have cost me 300 bucks had I not been respectful.
If you were being respectful Dilbert why did he ask you what your problem was? The truth is you weren't and were waiting for a chance to say you were married to one because cops don't give spouses tickets. What an asswipe!
2seaoat wrote:I play poker. I would be happy to play poker with your grasp of probability. You remind of the person who falls in love with a pair of queens, and the flop is ace, king, five. You keep pushing the bet because of those queens without realizing that the probability of an ace or king being held by nine people at a poker table is like the probability of a vehicle in that part of Pensacola being driven by a black person. Certainly, not a hundred percent, and yes they truck may have had a white driver, just not probable, and certainly when the stop happened and the officer escalated the stop, she was doing that with a black man.
You queens will lose 70% of the time.
Floridatexan wrote:Commissioner May was stopped while black. I know this from personal experience...that black people are targeted for stops by police, and Pensacola is one of the places where this is somewhat routine. Trevor Noah stated that he had been stopped 8 to 10 times in 6 years of living in the US. That is way beyond the norm. He also said that he didn't believe the police themselves were racist...just their training. I tend to believe that most police are decent people, and some are extraordinary in their dedication. I've seen this in my personal experience. But I've also seen the other side of the coin.
2seaoat wrote:How did the officer know he was black?
The video showed only black people. I guess her following the vehicle for no reason a couple blocks where every visible person was black in vehicles and pedestrians probably did not factor into why she was in that neighborhood pulling people over for no reason Rationalizing the reality of being stopped for driving black, and then doing the plates did not run, and the window tint looked bad is a canned response to stopping black drivers. The States Attorney and Commissioner May were well respected elected officials, but most blacks get stopped continually for simply being a black driver. It is institutionalized racism and it is nationwide. Attacking the victims is the status quo in America.
2seaoat wrote:I am compliant and polite when I have given the officer a legitimate reason to stop me. Polite and conversational. I make commissioner may look like milk toast when I have been wrongly stopped.
I have told the story repeatedly on the PNJ. I had gone to Disneyworld with the wife and kids and was returning home at about 1 am only 10 miles from my home. I was wearing my baseball cap, and the wife had her head on the center padded counsel and the kids were asleep in the back. I looked like a lone male driver at 1am on a Sunday morning. I went through a town at 30mph because I knew it was notorious for issuing speeding tickets. My wife was awake looking at the speedometer all the way through town. When I hit the 40 mph speed sign I increased my speed to 40 when a police car started following me. He turned his lights on when the speed limit transitioned to 50mph.
The wife popped up. The kids woke up. The officer approached the car and said I was doing 41 in a 30, I told him that was not true, and that I was traveling 30 the entire time at which time my wife immediately said, I was watching his speed the entire time and he traveled at 30mph. He goes back to the squad and my wife and I hear the radio operator go......Hey, I know Seaoat, and he is a good guy. He comes back to the car and asks me to sign the citation. I tell him I will not sign the citation because this was a dui profile stop, and I want to be arrested and tell the judge at bond call in the morning exactly how I was stopped on a profile stop with my family hidden, and my wife who is a school teacher will testify to my compliance with the speed.
He asks my wife to leave the vehicle and talk to him. She goes over by the squad and tells her, I am going to have to take your husband to jail, and can you talk to him......he is being stupid. She says officer please take him to jail, and then I can drive the kids home and go to bed because we have driven all night and my husband is a big boy, and by the way......I am not a liar and he never went one mile per hour over 30, so go right ahead and arrest him.
She comes back to the car and tells me exactly what she said to the officer. I am waiting for him to ask me to get out of the car after he sat in the squad talking on the radio for about five minutes, and he returns and hands me the citation and says he will not ask me to sign it and then he politely gives me the court date and time and says we can go. I get my lawyer to appear as I had a conflict that day and asked him to ask for a trial. He calls me and says the state dismissed the citation, and the assistant states attorney told my lawyer that others had complained about this officer stopping people without cause, and that he had just got a community award for the most DUI arrests and the judges and state were getting wise to his act.
If you are not willing as a citizen to go to jail to defend our constitution and our right as citizens not to be abused by the police, then do not be surprised by what our country becomes. I am sick to death for apologist who empower these abuses by tacit approval of the police state. I have spent a lifetime fighting bullies and unfairness, and not always with good results because it is the exception when the good guys stop the abuses of this system.
2seaoat wrote:i have done my duty since I was an eagle scout. So when I am offended how commissioner May was treated, I make no apologies. For those who apologize for bad cops, they can kiss MY asz.
Am I clear.
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