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There's a lot of sad truth to be found at this link.

That reporter tends to be more right-wing, and still recognizes Trump as the poison he is.

Uhlmann said Trump had shown “no desire and no capacity to lead the world” and was himself “the biggest threat to the values of the west”.


“He was an uneasy, lonely, awkward figure at this gathering and you got the strong sense that some of the leaders are trying to find the best way to work around him,” Uhlmann said.

“Where was the G20 statement condemning North Korea which would have put pressure on China and Russia? Other leaders expected it, they were prepared to back it, but it never came.”

Uhlmann said Trump was obsessed with “burnishing his celebrity” and had “diminished” his own nation to the benefit of Russia and China.

“We learned that Donald Trump has pressed fast-forward on the decline of the United States as a global leader. He managed to isolate his nation, to confuse and alienate his allies and to diminish America.

“[He is] a man who barks out bile in 140 characters, who wastes his precious days as president at war with the west’s institutions like the judiciary, independent government agencies and the free press.”

He finished with, "Some will cheer the decline of America. But I think we'll miss it when it's gone."

It's not surprising me to see countries like Russia cheering our decline. It is, however, dismaying to see so many Republicans cheering along with our enemies... all just because one of theirs is in charge. They aren't looking past that and are just rah-rah'ing any damage done to American values, just because boy does it piss off the liberals. Yeah, it does... but it should piss conservatives off, too. This is not all a Republican/Democrat thing... it's an American thing. We're abdicating leadership of the free world to others. We're blocking ourselves out of trade and cheating ourselves... all for one man's mentally illness: vanity.

I get it that we're a divided country when it comes to politics, I'm on board with that, too, but there comes a point where patriotism should override partisanship. A few, like Lindsay Graham and John McCain, realize this, but from what I'm seeing, we still haven't reached that point yet for far too many. History will not look back kindly on those who supported this man.


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Wordslinger wrote:

Here's a secret . . . Russia is no longer a communist nation.  And I'm a democratic socialist.  No doubt you're a Trump fan ... what's it like when your leader is a Russian puppet?  I think the Pussy Grabber should be convicted of treason and executed.  Tell us just how much you trust him when he's in bed with Putin  ...

Evidence? None.

But we have Barry on tape telling Medvedev he has just one more election until there is more flexibility. We have nothing on trump except that the Russians offered dirt on Hillary which our own media covered up to help her get elected in a rigged election which she still lost. Please run her out again in 2020 so she can be 0/3.

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IMASOCK wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:

Here's a secret . . . Russia is no longer a communist nation.  And I'm a democratic socialist.  No doubt you're a Trump fan ... what's it like when your leader is a Russian puppet?  I think the Pussy Grabber should be convicted of treason and executed.  Tell us just how much you trust him when he's in bed with Putin  ...

Evidence? None.

But we have Barry on tape telling Medvedev he has just one more election until there is more flexibility. We have nothing on trump except that the Russians offered dirt on Hillary which our own media covered up to help her get elected in a rigged election which she still lost. Please run her out again in 2020 so she can be 0/3.

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Hello Markle. How are you doin'?

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This was before Putin fucked with our election process -- most likely with help from Trump and gang. Reality

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Wordslinger wrote:


Hello Markle.  How are you doin'?


Lol....often wrong but never in doubt.

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Wordslinger wrote:

This was before Putin fucked with our election process -- most likely with help from Trump and gang.  Reality

Says the butthurt Hillary lover.

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IMASOCK wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:

This was before Putin fucked with our election process -- most likely with help from Trump and gang.  Reality

Says the butthurt Hillary lover.


Peedog. You back again? Full of the same old crap too. Still love the Pussy Grabber and his Russian boss? LOL

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Whatever Amerika......

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IMASOCK wrote:Whatever Amerika......

Brilliant post! Way to go kid, you just showed us that your well-of-stupidity is bottomless.

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Thanks!

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IMASOCK wrote:Thanks!

The defense rests, your honor.

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Wordslinger wrote:
IMASOCK wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:It must be terrible that trump puts America first in foreign policy and is freeing up business by undoing Obama's executive edicts and regulations. Oh the horror... quick get to the fainting couch.


And your team's mantra is "fuck the poor."  Why am I not surprised?

From an avowed communist, please explain how well the poor do in Mother Russia...

Here's a secret . . . Russia is no longer a communist nation.  And I'm a democratic socialist.  No doubt you're a Trump fan ... what's it like when your leader is a Russian puppet?  I think the Pussy Grabber should be convicted of treason and executed.  Tell us just how much you trust him when he's in bed with Putin  ...

Like Obama telling Medvedev after the election he will have more flexibility? Or Hilz selling Putin's boys 20% of our uranium stockpile?

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IMASOCK wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
IMASOCK wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:It must be terrible that trump puts America first in foreign policy and is freeing up business by undoing Obama's executive edicts and regulations. Oh the horror... quick get to the fainting couch.


And your team's mantra is "fuck the poor."  Why am I not surprised?

From an avowed communist, please explain how well the poor do in Mother Russia...

Here's a secret . . . Russia is no longer a communist nation.  And I'm a democratic socialist.  No doubt you're a Trump fan ... what's it like when your leader is a Russian puppet?  I think the Pussy Grabber should be convicted of treason and executed.  Tell us just how much you trust him when he's in bed with Putin  ...

Like Obama telling Medvedev after the election he will have more flexibility? Or Hilz selling Putin's boys 20% of our uranium stockpile?

So your point here is that if someone does something wrong it's okay for someone else to do it.  Right?  Are you capable of finding your ass with both hands in the dark?

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Well... Obama was asking for Russia's cooperation during the election process so that once elected he could concede more American interests. But that didn't even raise a comrade eyebrow. Why?

Don't bother answering... we know why.

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PkrBum wrote:Well... Obama was asking for Russia's cooperation during the election process so that once elected he could concede more American interests. But that didn't even raise a comrade eyebrow. Why?

Don't bother answering... we know why.

What Obama didn't do was collude with Putin to gain his help in winning re-election. And the sanctions that Obama later placed on Russia are the ones that Trump is working right now to eradicate.

And you can no longer whine there's no real proof.  Not when it's been revealed that all of Trump's closest staff, including his son-in-law and his son, had clandestine meetings with Russian during the campaign.  Meetings, by the way, that they have been forced to reveal after spending weeks and months denying such trysts. "Oh, I forgot those meetings," all of them have responded. ALL OF THEM "FORGOT" the meetings that now force them to hire private attorneys!

Donald Jr. met with a Russian attorney who promised information the Trumps could use against Hillary.  

TRUMP'S GANG COMMITTED TREASON AND
THERE'S REAL PROOF NOW.

And all of this shit is just a hair in the mammoth rug of collusion that Mueller is weaving.

You conservatives continue to give your full support to this nest of traitors. What do you get out of it? Forget Hillary or Obama's history. They're no longer in the driver's seat. Isn't it time for you to realize that Trump didn't win the popular vote and that Trump is simply not acceptable to the broad majority of voting Americans. And that isn't going to change. As long as Trump and Pence continue to have the support of the Republican Party, they will face rigid, unbending opposition and the healthcare, budget, tax cuts, and other legislation you claim to be for, will lie steaming in the same toilet full of crap where Trumpcare is right now.

If Trump and gang stay, nothing will get done and our two political parties will continue their war against compromise.

And Putin will laugh at what he's accomplished.

Reality.

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Do you really think that meeting with parties that claim to have dirt on opponents is unusual?

It just gets sillier and sillier. Unless he lied to doj/under agencies... there's no there... there.

Edit: oh... and Obama asked for space (compliance/collusion) from Russia during the campaign.

But that's OK... amiright?

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Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Well... Obama was asking for Russia's cooperation during the election process so that once elected he could concede more American interests. But that didn't even raise a comrade eyebrow. Why?

Don't bother answering... we know why.

What Obama didn't do was collude with Putin to gain his help in winning re-election. And the sanctions that Obama later placed on Russia are the ones that Trump is working right now to eradicate.

And you can no longer whine there's no real proof.  Not when it's been revealed that all of Trump's closest staff, including his son-in-law and his son, had clandestine meetings with Russian during the campaign.  Meetings, by the way, that they have been forced to reveal after spending weeks and months denying such trysts. "Oh, I forgot those meetings," all of them have responded.  ALL OF THEM "FORGOT" the meetings that now force them to hire private attorneys!

Donald Jr. met with a Russian attorney who promised information the Trumps could use against Hillary.  

                      TRUMP'S GANG COMMITTED TREASON AND
                       THERE'S REAL PROOF NOW.  

And all of this shit is just a hair in the mammoth rug of collusion that Mueller is weaving.

You conservatives continue to give your full support to this nest of traitors.  What do you get out of it?  Forget Hillary or Obama's history.  They're no longer in the driver's seat.  Isn't it time for you to realize that Trump didn't win the popular vote and that Trump is simply not acceptable to the broad majority of voting Americans.  And that isn't going to change.  As long as Trump and Pence continue to have the support of the Republican Party, they will face rigid, unbending opposition and the healthcare, budget, tax cuts, and other legislation you claim to be for, will lie steaming in the same toilet full of crap where Trumpcare is right now.  

If Trump and gang stay, nothing will get done and our two political parties will continue their war against compromise.

And Putin will laugh at what he's accomplished.

Reality.


With your logic Bill Clinton should've been resigning in 1992 and 1996 because he never got a majority of the vote either . Reality!!!

Also, don't talk about compromise when Chuck Schumer said they will compromise on nothing .

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The thing that bothers me about the data in your links is that many of the people receiving some sort of government assistance are working. I am seeing what looks like corporate welfare. Taxpayers are subsidizing Wal-mart and the fast food industry because they don't pay their workers enough to survive.

Why are so few of those on the right not concerned about taxpayers basically supporting very profitable corporations (the wealthy) but scream like scalded cats over the thought that their tax money might go to a poor working family to help feed their children (because their paycheck from corporate america is not providing them with a living wage)?

I personally would not mind paying a bit more for food and junk at W-mart if that's what it would take but really, with the profits they're making they seem to be in a position to raise wages without raising prices if they would take a cut in their profits. But of course that is out of the question.

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The thing that bothers me about the data in your links is that many of the people receiving some sort of government assistance are working. I am seeing what looks like corporate welfare. Taxpayers are subsidizing Wal-mart and the fast food industry because they don't pay their workers enough to survive.

Why are so few of those on the right not concerned about taxpayers basically supporting very profitable corporations (the wealthy) but scream like scalded cats over the thought that their tax money might go to a poor working family to help feed their children (because their paycheck from corporate america is not providing them with a living wage)?

I personally would not mind paying a bit more for food and junk at W-mart if that's what it would take but really, with the profits they're making they seem to be in a position to raise wages without raising prices if they would take a cut in their profits. But of course that is out of the question.

And Obama addressed this issue where in his eight years? And America's richest man is a Democrat right? (Bill Gates), but I don't see you harping on his bringing in foreigners on H1B visas to pay them less to work at Microsoft. Heck, The whole PC industry (Apple et al) does this and run by alleged democrats. Hypocrite much?

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othershoe1030 wrote:

The thing that bothers me about the data in your links is that many of the people receiving some sort of government assistance are working. I am seeing what looks like corporate welfare. Taxpayers are subsidizing Wal-mart and the fast food industry because they don't pay their workers enough to survive.

Why are so few of those on the right not concerned about taxpayers basically supporting very profitable corporations (the wealthy) but scream like scalded cats over the thought that their tax money might go to a poor working family to help feed their children (because their paycheck from corporate america is not providing them with a living wage)?

I personally would not mind paying a bit more for food and junk at W-mart if that's what it would take but really, with the profits they're making they seem to be in a position to raise wages without raising prices if they would take a cut in their profits. But of course that is out of the question.

And Obama addressed this issue where in his eight years? And America's richest man is a Democrat right? (Bill Gates), but I don't see you harping on his bringing in foreigners on H1B visas to pay them less to work at Microsoft. Heck, The whole PC industry (Apple et al) does this and run by alleged democrats. Hypocrite much?

What has anything you've just mentioned have to do with taxpayers subsidizing underpaid workers? I doubt if any of the H1B people are on food stamps.

Obama passed the Lilly Ledbetter equal pay bill and signed executive orders to raise the minimum wage for federal contractors. He also supported raising the national minimum wage to $10.10/hour but couldn't get it through congress.

As for the old saw about rich democrats, that is so worn out. Even to cite Bill Gates when he's donated so much money and supported so many beneficial causes around the world is too sad. It's not simply having money that makes a person ethical or moral to me it is having enough and doing things to help others that is the right thing to do.

It looks like all Trump cares about is building more luxury towers and gilding another toilet seat. Not to say people shouldn't enjoy their money but I think it's better to not be so egocentric about it. Fake Time magazine covers and so on.

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Trump is a traitor to his country and to the American middle and lower classes. And you republicans are okay with it as long as you can pass laws that favor the richest 2%.

McCain and Lindsay Graham have it right. Why don't you?

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Wordslinger wrote:Trump is a traitor to his country and to the American middle and lower classes.  And you republicans are okay with it as long as you can pass laws that favor the richest 2%.

McCain and Lindsay Graham have it right.  Why don't you?

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