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Embezzlement And Fraud Complaint Filed Against Donald And Eric Trump With New York AG

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By Jason Easley on Mon, Jun 12th, 2017 at 6:34 pm

A complaint has been filed against Donald and Eric Trump accusing them of fraud and embezzlement after it was reported that funds raised for charity were directed into Donald Trump's businesses.



The complaint filed by attorney J. Whitfield Larrabee states:




New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is looking into reports that Eric Trump funneled more than $1 million from charity golf tournaments to his father’s businesses.

Larrabee explained why he filed the complaint in a statement, “Donald Trump and Eric Trump took money from charities that they controlled and purchased paintings and luxury goods for themselves. Eric Trump hung a valuable painting that was donated to The Eric Trump Foundation in his living room. Donations to The Erik Trump Foundation were for children with cancer, not for one of the rich children of a billionaire. Donald Trump hung a valuable painting donated to the Donald Trump Foundation in the conference room of The Trump National Golf Club. His private golf club is not a charity. There are good grounds to charge Donald Trump and Eric Trump with embezzlement and fraud. The people deserve leaders who are honest and law abiding. We deserve better than this.”

Whether it is determined to be a criminal act or not, the moral point remains that America deserves honest leaders who don’t claim that all of the money is going to charity and then direct a million dollars into their own businesses. The million dollars that went into to Trump’s pocket was taken away from a hospital that treats children with cancer.

People need to use whatever resources they have at their disposal to voice their outrage and demand better. Not everyone can file a legal complaint or donate to candidates, but we all have a voice, and it costs nothing to use it.

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http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/12/embezzlement-fraud-complaint-filed-donald-eric-trump-york-ag.html

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This is civil not criminal, right? Well then, what's the worst thing that can happen? Trump, his kid and their respective organizations get a fine? Big whoop!

He had money laundering charges from the Treasury Department in Atlantic City and he settled that with a fine.

He made the Trump University cases go away with settlements as well, didn't he?

He and his scurvy kids look at this kind of stuff as just the cost of doing business.

The biggest effect of this is that it adds another straw to the already wobbly camel's back, nothing more.

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Even if he's found guilty, I'm wondering if it'll have much effect at this point. The public's gotten adjusted to crazy levels of sleaze around Trump and his spawn, so it's almost expected of them. Things that would sink any other candidate just get shrugged off for them, because the public's numb to it, and his supporters even cheer about it. It's like, "Huh, he stole charity money from a children's cancer fund? Is that all? Get back to us when they find film of him raping a nun."

The Trumps appear to have patterned themselves after the Gottis, right down to the "Teflon Don" thing. What sucks is that even though more sleaze is uncovered every day, they seem to be getting away with it because the public gives 'em a pass.

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In Illinois it is not civil. The AG has repeatedly gone after the Mob which sets up fraudulent fund raising and funnels the money to the mob through exorbitant rents.

(230 ILCS 30/12) (from Ch. 120, par. 1132) Sec. 12. Penalties.
(1) Any person who conducts or knowingly participates in an unlicensed charitable game commits the offense of gambling in violation of Section 28-1 of the Criminal Code of 1961, as amended. Any person who violates any provision of this Act, or any person who fails to file a charitable games return or who files a fraudulent return or application under this Act, or any person who willfully violates any rule or regulation of the Department for the administration and enforcement of this Act, or any officer or agent of an organization licensed under this Act who signs a fraudulent return or application filed on behalf of such an organization, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Any second or subsequent violation of this Act constitutes a Class 4 felony.


No person may receive any remuneration or compensation either directly or indirectly from any source for participating in the management or operation of the game.

In Illinois President Trump and his son would be facing criminal charges. This is run of the mill mob behavior, and I was shocked when candidate Trump had it exposed that he was using assets of the charity for his personal use. He would have been indicted in Illinois. It is morally wrong, but in Illinois the mob in Tony Soprano style of taking over a legitimate sporting store and fraudulently stealing is common and the AG does not hesitate because a person is a reality star. This should have been addressed before President Trump was elected.

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del.capslock wrote:This is civil not criminal, right? Well then, what's the worst thing that can happen? Trump, his kid and their respective organizations get a fine? Big whoop!

He had money laundering charges from the Treasury Department in Atlantic City and he settled that with a fine.

He made the Trump University cases go away with settlements as well, didn't he?

He and his scurvy kids look at this kind of stuff as just the cost of doing business.

The biggest effect of this is that it adds another straw to the already wobbly camel's back, nothing more.

RICO is criminal but leaves the door open to civil penalties.

https://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/rico.html



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2seaoat wrote:In Illinois it is not civil.  The AG has repeatedly gone after the Mob which sets up fraudulent fund raising and funnels the money to the mob through exorbitant rents.

In Illinois President Trump and his son would be facing criminal charges.  

Yeah, then he'd go in front of one of those sterling examples of rectitude that inhabit the bench in Illinois, pay a $50 fine, a $50,000 bribe and get adjudication withheld.

Eric'd get Operation Greylord tattooed on his ass and comp the judge and his whole extended family at the Trump International Waikiki for a month.

It was a Friday, and a group of lawyers--some prosecutors, some defense attorneys--had gathered in a Loop hotel on this day for a bachelor party. But the celebrating stopped when the television news broke this stunning story: For three years, the FBI had been running an undercover operation aimed at Cook County's court system. It featured at least one undercover operative and a listening device in a judge's chambers.

Four months after the Greylord investigation was revealed, the first indictments were announced, naming two judges, a former judge, three attorneys, two court clerks and a police officer.

Over the next several years, federal authorities launched similar investigations targeted at corruption in Chicago's City Hall (including Operations Incubator and Silver Shovel), other governmental bodies (Operation Lantern) and organized crime (Operation Gambat and Safebet). Scores of public officials, including aldermen, judges and legislators, were convicted.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/chi-chicagodays-greylord-story-story.html

You seem to have some sort of connection to the criminal justice system in Illinois--you were a para-legal or a court messenger or something, right?--so your even mentioning the legal system in Illinois is wonderfully ironic. Thanks for helping me start my day with laugh.

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Floridatexan wrote:
RICO is criminal but leaves the door open to civil penalties.


What I hope happens is that this adds more fuel to the tax returns fire. Today on Morning Joe one of the guests was talking about exactly that: Demanding his tax returns as part of discovery in a civil suit. Apparently the idea is starting to get some traction:

There is one proven method of getting Donald Trump to turn over his tax returns for scrutiny, and that’s to have a judge order him to do it. The only known instance in which the president has been forced to hand over his returns was when Trump sued then-New York Times reporter Timothy O’Brien, who claimed in a book that the onetime reality TV star wasn’t as rich as he claimed to be.

In the discovery process, Trump was forced provide the defendant access to his tax returns. Trump’s suit was thrown out by a judge, but little is known about the contents of the returns he provided because they were sealed by the court.

However, the fact that Trump was forced to cough up the documents that he once promised to release, only to postpone doing so indefinitely, has been an animating force behind a number of lawsuits filed against him since taking office in January.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/06/12/How-We-Finally-Get-Look-Trump-s-Tax-Returns

And the Fiscal Times isn't exactly a squishy liberal rag, either.

Watching all this stuff play out in real time is going to have the same effect on politics in the coming years that All the President's Men had on journalism. After the book and movie, J-school enrollments exploded. I think the same thing will happen to Public Administration and Political Science majors.

And law schools, of course, just so they can learn how to get away with corruption without getting caught, lawyers all being, by their very nature, sleazy, crooked and corrupt.

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court messenger or something, right?

Nope, in a prior life before my current career I was going to teach constitutional law at the college level, and ended up in one of our business interests being a part owner of a Title company which deals daily with legal issues, and litigation. in my professor days I would read thousands of cases and have a very firm grasp of the constitution and statute. I have a business entity in Florida, but it is not a title company so my interaction with Florida law is limited and I only use the Illinois law as being reflective of State's concerns that their not for profit organizations are not a front for a criminal enterprise. I also have a daughter who is a prosecuting lawyer, and many of her fellow employees have come to me for advice by the nature of my background and reading, and I deal regularly with constitutional criminal issues based on Supreme Court rulings. However, I will check out one of those court messenger jobs.....it sounds exciting.

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2seaoat wrote:
 However, I will check out one of those court messenger jobs.....it sounds exciting.

You might look into a bailiff's job. None of them pricks have a sense of humor either.

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