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AARP and AMA......not supportive of Trumpcare.

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I do not have a link, but ABC just reported problem with folks who do not know how to govern. This is a cluster F.

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I don't have a link either but read an article from an insurance benefit mag today and there are hundred's in the health care industry that came out against the bill only one was an insurance company so far. The AMA and large hospital's are very much against it and some wanted to keep status quo. They all stand to lose million's. The person who wrote the article said it's too bad these people did not speak up a year or so ago.

The industry screamed when Obama tried to cut Medicare/Medicaid payment's well if you haven't read the bill there are huge cuts to both.

Oh the only one's they found in favor were medical device maker's.



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ppaca wrote:I don't have a link either but read an article from an insurance benefit mag today and there are hundred's in the health care industry that came out against the bill only one was an insurance company so far. The AMA and large hospital's are very much against it and some wanted to keep status quo. They all stand to lose million's. The person who wrote the article said it's too bad these people did not speak up a year or so ago.

I'm sure plenty of people spoke out...the problem is that the GOP leadership has wanted to kill the ACA since the beginning. BTW, I know what AARP says publicly, but they're a tool of The Hartford. Their public statements don't match their lobbies.

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Floridatexan wrote:
ppaca wrote:I don't have a link either but read an article from an insurance benefit mag today and there are hundred's in the health care industry that came out against the bill only one was an insurance company so far. The AMA and large hospital's are very much against it and some wanted to keep status quo. They all stand to lose million's. The person who wrote the article said it's too bad these people did not speak up a year or so ago.

I'm sure plenty of people spoke out...the problem is that the GOP leadership has wanted to kill the ACA since the beginning.  BTW, I know what AARP says publicly, but they're a tool of The Hartford.  Their public statements don't match their lobbies.

Most of the industry did speak out early on and they were against it. Now they see. Too late.

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I am get a growing sense of optimism from moderate Republican senators from Maine, Ohio, and other states who are not on board to the harsh reality. To compound this is the crazies who want nothing to be directed on helping Americans secure health insurance. Nothing will pass the senate. This is a boondoggle. The ACA is turning out to be a great piece of legislation which needs some tweeking, but to save face, expect the party to suicide bomb American health care to carry the illusion of failure to its natural conclusion.....their intentional destroying health care for Americans. On ABC morning news an example was given where a woman fighting cancer will lose five thousand dollars under the new plan and Sec. Price just said complete nonsense for five minutes arguing that you cannot attack the bill because a few people get hurt.......I wanted to reach into the TV and kick his arrogant asz. The woman is going to lose 5k of coverage when she is deadly sick and this bastard with his conservative talking points which are completely removed from reality.....just kept talking over the truth......I think there is a growig anger in America as folks finally are figuring out the fleecing of America for the wealthy has just happened.

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At minimum there will be open debate... and likely compromises and deals openly considered.

Not what you leftists are used to... I know. It's called a democratic process.

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PkrBum wrote: At minimum there will be open debate...

Dumbass.

They're gonna try to push this through before the CBO even has a chance to score it.

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Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote: At minimum there will be open debate...

Dumbass.

They're gonna try to push this through before the CBO even has a chance to score it.

Oh... so first they're supposed to feed bs manipulated numbers into the cbo... then shove it down our throat.

Sorry... sometimes I'm not sure which set of rules you leftist asshats are playing by.

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Pk cannot even recognize the contradictions of what he said over the years and now appears to be defending the very things he found fault.  I guess its hard to live a lie and expect that you can tie up the loose ends.  The truth is simple.  The ACA helped Americans.  Trumpcare as scored by AARP and the AMA conclude it will hurt American health care.  The truth is upper income folks got a tax cut.  The truth is poor people will lose access to medical treatment.  You can debate with yourself about how open the Republican legislation has been, but the fact is simple.....it looks EXACTLY like the ACA process, but not very successful for anybody but the rich.

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I don't like what I know about it so far. But what can we do when the legislative process has been bastardized with laws like obamacaid, patriot act, ndaa... etc. Now all it takes is lies, smoke, and mirrors.

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FT I guess I may have been partially wrong, Seaoat here's your link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ama-oppose-obamacare-repeal-bill_us_58c010c2e4b0d1078ca2a977?

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PkrBum wrote:
Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote: At minimum there will be open debate...

Dumbass.

They're gonna try to push this through before the CBO even has a chance to score it.

Oh... so first they're supposed to feed bs manipulated numbers into the cbo... then shove it down our throat.

Sorry... sometimes I'm not sure which set of rules you leftist asshats are playing by.

The irony is that you think you have any kind of standing that allows you to call someone else an asshat.

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Floridatexan wrote:BTW, I know what AARP says publicly, but they're a tool of The Hartford.  Their public statements don't match their lobbies.

Oh, is United Health Care part of The Hartford now? I didn't know that.

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ppaca wrote:The industry screamed when Obama tried to cut Medicare/Medicaid payment's well if you haven't read the bill there are huge cuts to both.

You're saying huge cuts to Medicare reimbursements?? Good grief, that's all we need. Evil or Very Mad

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