20 Killed in Orlando nightclub

RealLindaL wrote:

Markle wrote:You also admitted you have no clue what you are talking about regarding guns.

Please do me a large favor and show me where I said that.

Markle wrote:

Tell us what, in your opinion, specifically, what is an assault weapon, please.

Salinsky wrote:

Markle wrote:

Tell us what, in your opinion, specifically, what is an assault weapon, please.

A weapon with which you can carry out an assault on a nightclub, shooting over 100 people in a matter of minutes.

Can I help you out with any other rudimentary concepts?

Salinsky wrote:

Markle wrote:

Tell us what, in your opinion, specifically, what is an assault weapon, please.

A weapon with which you can carry out an assault on a nightclub, shooting over 100 people in a matter of minutes.

Can I help you out with any other rudimentary concepts?

PkrBum wrote:Woefully inadequate description... not at all "the truth". What y'all seem to have an issue with is guns in general.

Go ahead and be honest. You know you will support sweeping gun control when it finally comes to pass... and it will.

Salinsky wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Woefully inadequate description... not at all "the truth". What y'all seem to have an issue with is guns in general.

Go ahead and be honest. You know you will support sweeping gun control when it finally comes to pass... and it will.

Maybe inadequate, but certainly accurate.

While you're at it, maybe you could provide an adequate and accurate description of what you mean when you say, "sweeping gun control".

Because my definition of that is certainly not going to come to pass in my lifetime.

PkrBum wrote:

Salinsky wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Woefully inadequate description... not at all "the truth". What y'all seem to have an issue with is guns in general.

Go ahead and be honest. You know you will support sweeping gun control when it finally comes to pass... and it will.

Maybe inadequate, but certainly accurate.

While you're at it, maybe you could provide an adequate and accurate description of what you mean when you say, "sweeping gun control".

Because my definition of that is certainly not going to come to pass in my lifetime.

It's not an accurate definition. An ar15 is just a semi-auto... like almost all modern pistols and hunting rifles. In fact... it's actually underpowered for large game hunting... including deer in most states. Gawd y'all are a bunch of pantywaists.

Since the definition y'all have is so skewed by misinformation and hysteria... I say semi-auto will be sweeping control. But we all know crazies, criminals, and terrorists will still commit crimes and worse... and leftist will still blame gun rights.

PkrBum wrote:Those scary rifles are a tiny percentage of gun crime... pistols are the weapon used in most crimes. The vast majority take place in known high crime areas. The vast majority of both perps and victims are felons... already carrying unlawfully.

Focus now... what would be the best things to focus on to impact this issue most effectively?

RealLindaL wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Those scary rifles are a tiny percentage of gun crime... pistols are the weapon used in most crimes. The vast majority take place in known high crime areas. The vast majority of both perps and victims are felons... already carrying unlawfully.

Focus now... what would be the best things to focus on to impact this issue most effectively?

Actually, Pkr, if you're addressing me, I need you to please focus on the subject at hand, and try not to wander into the topic of individual murders, whether in high crime areas or elsewhere, which we could all discuss at length sometime but is not what this thread is about.  This is about a mass murder, and the question I raised was why this particular type of frightening event -- which is so very different in so many ways from, say, criminal shootings on the streets of Chicago -- happens with sickening regularity only in this country.

PkrBum wrote:It doesn't just happen in this country... that's a talkingpoint. See the paris attack where gun controls are strict.

RealLindaL wrote:

PkrBum wrote:It doesn't just happen in this country... that's a talkingpoint. See the paris attack where gun controls are strict.

Not a talking point at all -- reality, to quote Wordslinger. Paris was one. We have many -- and it seems to be accepted that these types of attacks will continue here.   I clearly recall waking last Sunday to a beautiful, peaceful day, and, before turning on the radio, almost reflexively saying to myself:   It's too quiet.  It's been too long since something terrible happened in this country....   Then I turned on the radio -- and BAM.

My question is, why here, with far more frequency than anywhere else?

Please read my lips from the above post and my earlier one on this thread -- the operative phrases are bolded for better ease of understanding my point:

"And I have yet to hear one cogent response to the question of why these continual, repetitive mass shootings only take place on a regular basis in the U.S.A. WHY???"

"...the question I raised was why this particular type of frightening event -- which is so very different in so many ways from, say, criminal shootings on the streets of Chicago -- happens with sickening regularity only in this country."

Salinsky wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

Salinsky wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Woefully inadequate description... not at all "the truth". What y'all seem to have an issue with is guns in general.

Go ahead and be honest. You know you will support sweeping gun control when it finally comes to pass... and it will.

Maybe inadequate, but certainly accurate.

While you're at it, maybe you could provide an adequate and accurate description of what you mean when you say, "sweeping gun control".

Because my definition of that is certainly not going to come to pass in my lifetime.

It's not an accurate definition. An ar15 is just a semi-auto... like almost all modern pistols and hunting rifles. In fact... it's actually underpowered for large game hunting... including deer in most states. Gawd y'all are a bunch of pantywaists.

Since the definition y'all have is so skewed by misinformation and hysteria... I say semi-auto will be sweeping control. But we all know crazies, criminals, and terrorists will still commit crimes and worse... and leftist will still blame gun rights.

The Orlando shooter didn't use an AR-15, he used a Sig Sauer MCX, which was developed at the request of U.S. special operations forces, and is touted by the manufacturer as, "an innovative weapon system built around a battle-proven core."

Sounds a lot like an assault weapon.

2seaoat wrote:Pantywaist......really.......when you cannot even have discussions about methods of qualifying that sane people can purchase weapons, then please do not call me a pantywaist because Congress has not had committee meetings to drill down on common sense protections. When the FBI database, the no fly database, and the three day investigatory wait period are not being coordinated, you would think that people in Congress representing Americans would have committee meetings to find out how this can be improved, but when a special interest industry can pour campaign contributions into Congress and threaten candidates who run and question the unfettered sale of dangerous weapons without common sense control.....I think Pantywaist might be better applied to the shills for gun merchants. have I got a deal for you PK..........

Salinsky wrote:Law abiding citizens have no legitimate need for a killing machine capable of mowing down over a hundred people in less than five minutes.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Salinsky wrote:Law abiding citizens have no legitimate need for a killing machine capable of mowing down over a hundred people in less than five minutes.

I agree. Do we need to remind everyone who allowed the Federal 1994 Assault Weapons ban to sunset in 2004?

Maybe a more liberal government under President Hillary Rodham Clinton will try to redress this issue again, like her husband did, and the more liberal Supreme Court she will appoint won't try to disassemble the new law.