2seaoat wrote:Oats is mostly right on the generalities, but definitely wrong on some specifics.
You should confer with your daughter, Oats.
She'll set you straight.
That is what daughters are for to set you straight........but on this subject......well lets just say she and some of her fellow SA's seek my advice. Nothing like an old handyman to give advice on how to fix things. When you talk to one of those lawyers ask them if they have read Gant and Rodriguez which just came out in 2015(they did not if they say I am wrong on the specifics).....if they say I am wrong after reading those cases, get a new lawyer.
Considering your opinion on the May case and this case I would get a real lawyer rather than listen to what you said. You couldn't get straight the officer had a right to ask her to get out of the car until the end of these discussions.