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Vikingwoman wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
Markle,
Why do you make comments on something you know nothing about? Seriously? No, that would not be the platinum plans. That would be the silver plans and the premiums are based on your income and they have ZERO deductibles.Ask PPACA.
ppaca wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
If it's such a boon for insurance company's why is Assurant out of business at the end of this year, Humana for sale all because of their hugh losses on ACA business? It will be the big three before this is all over, BC, UHC and Aetna if they can gobble up cigna and humana. No boon for insurance company's their losses on this line of business are mounting.
ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
There are some gold plan without deductible's and also some silver depending on ones FPL. Not all silver plans have a high deductible once the FPL is figured and cost sharing.
Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
There are some gold plan without deductible's and also some silver depending on ones FPL. Not all silver plans have a high deductible once the FPL is figured and cost sharing.
How many households, living below the Federal Poverty Level buy high cost Silver or Gold plans?
ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
There are some gold plan without deductible's and also some silver depending on ones FPL. Not all silver plans have a high deductible once the FPL is figured and cost sharing.
How many households, living below the Federal Poverty Level buy high cost Silver or Gold plans?
Not many gold but mostly silver and a slew of them buy them, you have to remember the government is subsidizing these plans.
Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
Markle,
Why do you make comments on something you know nothing about? Seriously? No, that would not be the platinum plans. That would be the silver plans and the premiums are based on your income and they have ZERO deductibles.Ask PPACA.
Who pays the difference?
Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
There are some gold plan without deductible's and also some silver depending on ones FPL. Not all silver plans have a high deductible once the FPL is figured and cost sharing.
How many households, living below the Federal Poverty Level buy high cost Silver or Gold plans?
Not many gold but mostly silver and a slew of them buy them, you have to remember the government is subsidizing these plans.
No, TAX PAYERS are subsidizing others. Another government transfer of wealth.
Vikingwoman wrote:Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
There are some gold plan without deductible's and also some silver depending on ones FPL. Not all silver plans have a high deductible once the FPL is figured and cost sharing.
How many households, living below the Federal Poverty Level buy high cost Silver or Gold plans?
Not many gold but mostly silver and a slew of them buy them, you have to remember the government is subsidizing these plans.
No, TAX PAYERS are subsidizing others. Another government transfer of wealth.
Wrong again, Markle Farkle. You just can't seem to get anything right, now can you?
Lisa12 wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
There are several policies w/ zero deductibles and very low deductibles.
Indeed there are. That would be the Platinum Plans with the highest premiums. Out of reach of many so low and middle income people are stuck with plans with such high deductible they might just as well have no insurance.
There are some gold plan without deductible's and also some silver depending on ones FPL. Not all silver plans have a high deductible once the FPL is figured and cost sharing.
How many households, living below the Federal Poverty Level buy high cost Silver or Gold plans?
Not many gold but mostly silver and a slew of them buy them, you have to remember the government is subsidizing these plans.
No, TAX PAYERS are subsidizing others. Another government transfer of wealth.
Wrong again, Markle Farkle. You just can't seem to get anything right, now can you?
You are too f*****g stupid for words...
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2seaoat wrote:Yes, taxes do redistribute wealth. I have been paying taxes which mostly have gone to defense spending......it is transferring wealth from the shrinking middle class to the MIC.....so Markle's logic is correct, it just his priorities are Not the average American, but MIC and large corporate tax breaks and subsidies which transfer wealth......heck.....the ACA is a piker.....hardly had redistributed a thing........compared to the MIC.
Markle wrote:ppaca wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:My guess is most getting their health insurance via ObamaCare whose incomes are so low they recieve a very large subsidy for their premiums won't be able to afford the deductibles anyway. The plan is doomed so far as it's intended purpose of insuring the uninsured working poor.
“Even with Obamacare, Americans Find Health Insurance Too Expensive”
What a boon for the insurance companies though ... who wrote the law & are guaranteed a profit under the law.
Despite Glitches, Obamacare Profit Windfall To Insurers Well Underway
In 2008, the Obama administration wrote the ACA in collaboration with all the major players in the health care industry, the drug and insurance companies, the major hospital chains, and lobbyists representing the largest employers in the country.
If it's such a boon for insurance company's why is Assurant out of business at the end of this year, Humana for sale all because of their hugh losses on ACA business? It will be the big three before this is all over, BC, UHC and Aetna if they can gobble up cigna and humana. No boon for insurance company's their losses on this line of business are mounting.
This year, and tapering off, insurance companies will be reimbursed for their losses.
2seaoat wrote:Yes, taxes do redistribute wealth. I have been paying taxes which mostly have gone to defense spending......it is transferring wealth from the shrinking middle class to the MIC.....so Markle's logic is correct, it just his priorities are Not the average American, but MIC and large corporate tax breaks and subsidies which transfer wealth......heck.....the ACA is a piker.....hardly had redistributed a thing........compared to the MIC.
Vikingwoman wrote:That happened to me. I got a large settlement and lost my subsidy but I accept that.I'm just going to do w/o insurance and pay the fine until next year.
Markle wrote:Vikingwoman wrote:EmeraldGhost wrote:
Not many gold but mostly silver and a slew of them buy them, you have to remember the government is subsidizing these plans.
No, TAX PAYERS are subsidizing others. Another government transfer of wealth.
Wrong again, Markle Farkle. You just can't seem to get anything right, now can you?
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