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The Insecure American

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26The Insecure American - Page 2 Empty Re: The Insecure American 6/2/2015, 9:28 am

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

But of course ego is what motivates all the Glenn Becks and Alex Joneses as well.

27The Insecure American - Page 2 Empty Re: The Insecure American 6/2/2015, 10:21 am

KarlRove

KarlRove

Bob wrote:
KarlRove wrote:
Bob wrote:
Markle wrote:


The ones of you who hate Obama will assign any conspiracy to him.

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Obama couldn't be part of any plan run by others because he is a narcissist. Everything has to be about him and making him look good. He's been a jack ___ for 6.5 years. There's no way BHO could keep a secret either like when Bin Laden was allegedly killed. He wasn't supposed to spike the football the way he did. Nothing was supposed to be said. It goes against every grain in his body not to showboat and grandstand and that's why you are wrong Bob.

You've confused me,  Karl.

If Obama "can't keep a secret".  And if he "couldn't be part of any plan run by others because he's a narcissist";  and if that's the reason he couldn't be part of a "Cloward Piven" conspiracy or any other conspiracy;
then how does that make me be wrong?  

Because I agree.  All politicians who even attempt to be president in this day and age are narcissists by necessity and that includes Obama.  Why else would they be willing to go through a nightmarish 2-year long campaign to get the job.  Ego is the only thing that would motivate an individual to want to do that.

It doesn't matter if it's Obama or Bush or Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney or whoever.  It applies to all of them.
So yes that's what drives them,  not some ridiculous conspiracy.

There is a difference. Cloward - Piven is an overt strategy.

28The Insecure American - Page 2 Empty Re: The Insecure American 6/2/2015, 10:30 am

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

KarlRove wrote:

There is a difference. Cloward - Piven is an overt strategy.

It would be an overt strategy/conspiracy only if Obama was freely admitting publically that it's the strategy/conspiracy he's adopted.

If Obama was actually following some 50 year old "strategy" devised by a couple of academics,  then it's a covert strategy because it would be political suicide to publically reveal that's what he was doing.

Absolutely no different than the "PNAC" strategy.  If Bush had actually been following such a thing that would be a covert strategy too for the same reason.

29The Insecure American - Page 2 Empty Re: The Insecure American 6/2/2015, 10:45 am

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

It's like the James Bond movies,  Karl.

If enough bullshit is presented to a movie audience to convince them Ernst Blofeld is the embodiment of all things evil,  then the audience will be more receptive to believing Ernst Blofeld is capable of overseeing a huge conspiracy.

The media bloviators (be they Beck or Alex Jones or Michael Moore or whoever) do the same thing.  If they can convince an audience that Bush and/or Obama are the embodiments of evil,  they can convince that audience that Bush and Obama are doing the same thing.

It's the 21st Century version of what P.T. Barnum invented in the 19th Century.  He had a good term for it which still applies today.  He called this sort of thing a "humbug".  
Only difference is,  unlike the Becks,  Joneses and Moores,   when called out on it Barnum admitted his humbugs were humbugs.  He practiced "overt" humbugs.
Same as wrastlin does.  It practices "overt" humbugs as well.  That's what I love about it.   lol

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