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Like I said would happen! Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News: "WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION"!

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Markle

Markle

Like I said would happen! Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News: "WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION"!

Appearing on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News when Chris asked her what was needed to rescue Baltimore. She responded with several items including that WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION.

Rep. Edwards claimed to have spoken with a girl in high school who told Rep. Edwards that the text book they were using was 20 years old. She neglected to say what the subject was of the 20 year old text book.

IF, the subject was English, math or several other subjects, there would not be much difference. Especially when so many cannot read, write or do simple arithmetic problems.

Wouldn't you love to see the budget for education in Baltimore?

Guest


Guest

Markle wrote:Like I said would happen!  Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News:  "WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION"!

Appearing on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News when Chris asked her what was needed to rescue Baltimore.  She responded with several items including that WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION.

Rep. Edwards claimed to have spoken with a girl in high school who told Rep. Edwards that the text book they were using was 20 years old.  She neglected to say what the subject was of the 20 year old text book.  

IF, the subject was English, math or several other subjects, there would not be much difference.  Especially when so many cannot read, write or do simple arithmetic problems.

Wouldn't you love to see the budget for education in Baltimore?

Since the Baltimore school district per-student spending is 3rd or 4th highest in the country (depending on which report you cite) where did all the money go?  

Markle

Markle

colaguy wrote:
Markle wrote:Like I said would happen!  Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News:  "WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION"!

Appearing on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News when Chris asked her what was needed to rescue Baltimore.  She responded with several items including that WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION.

Rep. Edwards claimed to have spoken with a girl in high school who told Rep. Edwards that the text book they were using was 20 years old.  She neglected to say what the subject was of the 20 year old text book.  

IF, the subject was English, math or several other subjects, there would not be much difference.  Especially when so many cannot read, write or do simple arithmetic problems.

Wouldn't you love to see the budget for education in Baltimore?

Since the Baltimore school district per-student spending is 3rd or 4th highest in the country (depending on which report you cite) where did all the money go?  

No question in my mind. Administration. Not for buildings, materials, teachers or supplies. Same as in any Democrat run school system.

2seaoat



Teacher salaries......mostly. Schools work where there is parental and community involvement, but few schools can overcome poverty. My wife's career in teaching saw the horrible impacts of poverty on students and the differences in performance with those who were not living in poverty. We need jobs.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Teacher salaries......mostly.  Schools work where there is parental and community involvement, but few schools can overcome poverty.  My wife's career in teaching saw the horrible impacts of poverty on students and the differences in performance with those who were not living in poverty.  We need jobs.


Please show us budget from Baltimore showing your assertion.

As you know, the War on Poverty, begun by Liberal President Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Who creates jobs?

There are millions of jobs available, have no one qualified to fill them. Why?

2seaoat



Please show us budget from Baltimore showing your assertion.

As you know, the War on Poverty, begun by Liberal President Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Who creates jobs?

There are millions of jobs available, have no one qualified to fill them. Why?


Anybody who is knowledgeable knows that nationwide about 80% of public school budgets go for salaries and benefits. The war on Poverty despite your propaganda was successful. Many sources create jobs, and the government using the tax code can prioritize private sector jobs. Government job creation works best with training and tax credits. It just takes a Congress which is not bought and paid for by those who want continued subsidy to big Agriculture, Big Banks, and tax breaks for the wealthy......nothing hard to figure out here, unless one is living in a world of propaganda void of reality.

KarlRove

KarlRove

2seaoat wrote:Teacher salaries......mostly.  Schools work where there is parental and community involvement, but few schools can overcome poverty.  My wife's career in teaching saw the horrible impacts of poverty on students and the differences in performance with those who were not living in poverty.  We need jobs.


NO, the group you refer to fails to respect authority (see the riots), fails to value education (see the ACT scores of lack thereof), and has been conditioned to fall back on guaranteed government handouts if they give up.

KarlRove

KarlRove

2seaoat wrote:Please show us budget from Baltimore showing your assertion.

As you know, the War on Poverty, begun by Liberal President Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Who creates jobs?

There are millions of jobs available, have no one qualified to fill them. Why?


Anybody who is knowledgeable knows that nationwide about 80% of public school budgets go for salaries and benefits.  The war on Poverty despite your propaganda was successful.  Many sources create jobs, and the government using the tax code can prioritize private sector jobs.  Government job creation works best with training and tax credits.   It just takes a Congress which is not bought and paid for by those who want continued subsidy to big Agriculture, Big Banks, and tax breaks for the wealthy......nothing hard to figure out here, unless one is living in a world of propaganda void of reality.

Feds only contribute 5% of the state education funding. Quit blaming the feds.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Please show us budget from Baltimore showing your assertion.

As you know, the War on Poverty, begun by Liberal President Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Who creates jobs?

There are millions of jobs available, have no one qualified to fill them. Why?


Anybody who is knowledgeable knows that nationwide about 80% of public school budgets go for salaries and benefits.  The war on Poverty despite your propaganda was successful.  Many sources create jobs, and the government using the tax code can prioritize private sector jobs.  Government job creation works best with training and tax credits.   It just takes a Congress which is not bought and paid for by those who want continued subsidy to big Agriculture, Big Banks, and tax breaks for the wealthy......nothing hard to figure out here, unless one is living in a world of propaganda void of reality.

Salaries and benefits in BALTIMORE of whom? Janitors? Teachers? Administration?

How could the war on poverty be successful when we have a higher rate of Poverty today than when the War on Poverty began?

No such thing as "government job creation".

But you do remain a great foil.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I just checked.  There are 85,000 students in the Baltimore school district and the 2015 school budget is $1.34 billion.
That's $15,700 per student per year in spending.  OR $188,000 spent on one student going from grade 1 through grade 12.

$188,000 can't even teach them how to read and write and do arithmetic.  What a total clusterfuck of monumental proportions.  

You wanna know what the only real solution is.  Outsource the fucking education to Asia where they teach them everything they need to know and do it for a LOT less money.  And since that's where all the jobs have gone anyway then they'll be able to get an education and a job over there too.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Teacher salaries......mostly.  Schools work where there is parental and community involvement, but few schools can overcome poverty.  My wife's career in teaching saw the horrible impacts of poverty on students and the differences in performance with those who were not living in poverty.  We need jobs.


Please show us budget from Baltimore showing your assertion.

As you know, the War on Poverty, begun by Liberal President Lyndon Baines Johnson.  

Who creates jobs?

There are millions of jobs available, have no one qualified to fill them.  Why?


Let's look at Semi-sane's new lies -- unemployment for black men in Baltimore is 60%.

Who creates jobs? What difference does it make, since there are few if any jobs in downtown Baltimore?

The cause of under-education in Baltimore is an environment for kids from one-parent households, growing up where most black men, and women have no jobs or self-respect. Who's there to encourage kids to study? Baltimore is a place where ambition goes to die.

More money for textbooks or teachers won't make a measurable difference.

The CCC idea has real possibilities, but instead of discussing its pros and cons, the argument follows the normal "all blacks are worthless" vs. the "Life isn't fair for them" crapola.

I should have expected it, since republican conservatives are mostly white racists anyway.

What folks like War Hero and Semi Sane Markle want is a continuation of the "let's fill all our prisons with those black bastards," policies.

Reality.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

colaguy wrote:
Markle wrote:Like I said would happen!  Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News:  "WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION"!

Appearing on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, Congressman Donna Edwards of Maryland said on Fox News when Chris asked her what was needed to rescue Baltimore.  She responded with several items including that WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION.

Rep. Edwards claimed to have spoken with a girl in high school who told Rep. Edwards that the text book they were using was 20 years old.  She neglected to say what the subject was of the 20 year old text book.  

IF, the subject was English, math or several other subjects, there would not be much difference.  Especially when so many cannot read, write or do simple arithmetic problems.

Wouldn't you love to see the budget for education in Baltimore?

Since the Baltimore school district per-student spending is 3rd or 4th highest in the country (depending on which report you cite) where did all the money go?  

Newer textbooks and better-paid teachers won't make a measurable improvement in the literacy or workable knowledge of students who live in poverty, in a one-parent family, where no one has the time or the interest required to coach, help the child with homework or to urge them to study.

Democrat or republican approaches to educating kids from urban poverty sectors are equally unsuccessful. Proper education requires a positive environment at school and at home. The same problems with educating kids from urban poverty centers exists in red and blue states.

If someone has a better idea than the CCC solution with which I opened this debate, let's hear it!!

There are two components to be dealt with: inspiring young black students to study and dream of a productive, contributive future, and some kind of program that does the same for young, frustrated, victimized black men whose lives have been wasted by a failed system and rampant American racism.

Tell us how to inspire a 7-year-old kid from a one-parent family with five or six siblings, and a working mom who cleans motel rooms.

Tell us how to inspire an 17-year-old kid whose entire life is centered on getting by in a violent, crime-driven neighborhood where there are no jobs.

I'm all ears.

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