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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.


It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

KarlRove

KarlRove

U r fraud

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:U r fraud
If that's your best shot, you're truly laughable.

Vikingwoman



It is a fraud we tell ourselves,unfortunately. There are so many other countries that are much better than we are.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Then pack your bags and shag arse.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:Then pack your bags and shag arse.


No, War Hero, running away is your game not hers.  She chooses to stay and improve our second-rate country.  And so do I.

Shagging arse is your game, not ours. 

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Other than acting like a spoiled little boy, is there any part of my opening statement  you disagree with?  We're not the richest, we're not the most educated, we're not the healthiest, etc. 



So what makes us exceptional?  Ex-military chumps like you?

Vikingwoman



KarlRove wrote:Then pack your bags and shag arse.

Actually, I would love to "shag" but I have ties here that keep me from leaving.

2seaoat



America is exceptional. It is our founding fathers and the beauty of our constitution which makes it so..........I make no apologies for this great country and being first or living a year longer is no measure of this great country. It is great because we are not perfect, we are not without flaws, but the American people overall believe in fundamental fairness. The problem is that evil exists in this country. It has slowly bought our congress. It is getting more control of our media sending its propaganda to the weak of mind.....however, they will fail and America will prevail. We need to end the war on drugs.....we need to reduce our military and government by twenty five percent over the next decade. We need to attack those who use racism as a political tool, and we need to have fun......living in fear and having hissy fits while killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians is seriously not fun and is quite insane......we can work on our flaws, but this country is remarkable and exceptional and every day I give thanks that I was born in America.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Liberals even want to apologize for America's success. That's goofy

Vikingwoman



Countries who are exceptional are those that provide healthcare to their citizens and provide for their poor. Millions are still w/o healthcare.That is not exceptional.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies. Must be the sheer desperation. You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
KarlRove wrote:U r fraud
If that's your best shot, you're truly laughable.

Well, it does sum you up perfectly Wordslinger. Did your hero, Adolph Hitler, not do the same thing as you are doing now? LIE?

KarlRove

KarlRove

by Vikingwoman Today at 7:06 pm
Countries who are exceptional are those that provide healthcare to their citizens and provide for their poor. Millions are still w/o healthcare.That is not exceptional.

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We've printed all the funny money we can. How do you propose to pay for it all without crushing the
Middle class who is footing the Obamacare bill as it is. If it's so important, start writing checks

Vikingwoman



So you're ok w/ the middle class footing the bill and not the rich? That is why what you post is so stupid all the time. You have no common sense at ALL!

Markle

Markle

Vikingwoman wrote:So you're ok w/ the middle class footing the bill and not the rich? That is why what you post is so stupid all the time. You have no common sense at ALL!

Did not all income levels pay in the past? Why should they middle and lower income levels get a free ride?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

We do have the highest percentage of prisoners.  We are 37th in healthcare.  Our life expectancy is less than many other modern countries.  I guess that does indeed make us exceptional!

Reality. 

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

We do have the highest percentage of prisoners.  We are 37th in healthcare.  Our life expectancy is less than many other modern countries.  I guess that does indeed make us exceptional!

Reality.

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies. Must be the sheer desperation. You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

We do have the highest percentage of prisoners.  We are 37th in healthcare.  Our life expectancy is less than many other modern countries.  I guess that does indeed make us exceptional!

Reality.

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

The difference Semi-sane "I know NOSSING!" Markle, is my comments are believable and yours aren't.

Guest


Guest

In a land, so rife with freedom there is not going to be uniformity of outcomes.  The freedoms America provides include the freedom to fail.  Americas’ exceptionalism is all about the freedoms that are bestowed upon its citizens (and to a large degree to its immigrants).  We have the opportunities that many other nations do not have.  Some of us take advantage of these opportunities, some do not.  If not all of us take advantage of the (mostly) free education, that does not make America less exceptional.  If not all of us take advantage of the availability of nutritious food, and that leads to obesity and complicated health problems, that does not make America less exceptional.  It does not make America less exceptional that some do not adhere to the established laws of the land, and find themselves in prison – America still has one of the best legal systems.  America is exceptional because of the opportunity of choice.  It is the (poor) choices that many have made that leads to less than desirable outcomes.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

We do have the highest percentage of prisoners.  We are 37th in healthcare.  Our life expectancy is less than many other modern countries.  I guess that does indeed make us exceptional!

Reality.

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

The difference Semi-sane "I know NOSSING!" Markle, is my comments are believable and yours aren't.

In YOUR opinion only.

You have been forced to admit that you have no clue what the criteria used in that healthcare rating. It is NOT that you do not know, you do not want to admit you know and how they render the decades old rating wrong. Nor why they quit this rating because of the INACCURACY.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

We do have the highest percentage of prisoners.  We are 37th in healthcare.  Our life expectancy is less than many other modern countries.  I guess that does indeed make us exceptional!

Reality.

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

The difference Semi-sane "I know NOSSING!" Markle, is my comments are believable and yours aren't.

In YOUR opinion only.

You have been forced to admit that you have no clue what the criteria used in that healthcare rating.  It is NOT that you do not know, you do not want to admit you know and how they render the decades old rating wrong.  Nor why they quit this rating because of the INACCURACY.


Show us the truth.  Is the following statement true or false, if false prove it:  "Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland."

Does any other industrialized nation incarcerate a higher percentage of its citizens than the U.S.?  Let's hear your version, and back it up because no one believes you Semi Sane Markle. 


Tell us why we shouldn't believe that the U.S.A. should be rated 37th for Healthcare. 

We're all ears. 

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

We do have the highest percentage of prisoners.  We are 37th in healthcare.  Our life expectancy is less than many other modern countries.  I guess that does indeed make us exceptional!

Reality.

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

The difference Semi-sane "I know NOSSING!" Markle, is my comments are believable and yours aren't.

In YOUR opinion only.

You have been forced to admit that you have no clue what the criteria used in that healthcare rating.  It is NOT that you do not know, you do not want to admit you know and how they render the decades old rating wrong.  Nor why they quit this rating because of the INACCURACY.


Show us the truth.  Is the following statement true or false, if false prove it:  "Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland."

Does any other industrialized nation incarcerate a higher percentage of its citizens than the U.S.?  Let's hear your version, and back it up because no one believes you Semi Sane Markle. 


Tell us why we shouldn't believe that the U.S.A. should be rated 37th for Healthcare. 

We're all ears.

You, and the other Progressives, have been shown the FACTS many times over. They do not play into your agenda, who you continue to post garbage.

Tell us what are the criteria used to evaluate countries, who provides that information?

What is the date of that "study" and why was it stopped?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:3. American Exceptionalism Is Absolute Nonsense in 2015
No matter how severe the U.S.’ decline becomes, neocons and the Tea Party continue to espouse their belief in “American exceptionalism.” But in many respects, the U.S. of 2015 is far from exceptional. The U.S. is not exceptional when it comes to civil liberties (no country in the world incarcerates, per capita, more of its people than the U.S.) or healthcare (WHO ranks the U.S. #37 in terms of healthcare). Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland.

It must all be Obama's fault .... LOL

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

We do have the highest percentage of prisoners.  We are 37th in healthcare.  Our life expectancy is less than many other modern countries.  I guess that does indeed make us exceptional!

Reality.

You just keep repeating the same disproven twists and lies.  Must be the sheer desperation.  You know it is WRONG, yet you have nothing else so you hope against hope everyone is STUPID as Jonathan Gruber called all Progressives.

The difference Semi-sane "I know NOSSING!" Markle, is my comments are believable and yours aren't.

In YOUR opinion only.

You have been forced to admit that you have no clue what the criteria used in that healthcare rating.  It is NOT that you do not know, you do not want to admit you know and how they render the decades old rating wrong.  Nor why they quit this rating because of the INACCURACY.


Show us the truth.  Is the following statement true or false, if false prove it:  "Nor is the U.S. a leader in terms of life expectancy: according to the WHO, overall life expectancy in the U.S. in 2013 was 79 compared to 83 in Switzerland and Japan, 82 in Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Canada and 81 in the Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Austria and Finland."

Does any other industrialized nation incarcerate a higher percentage of its citizens than the U.S.?  Let's hear your version, and back it up because no one believes you Semi Sane Markle. 


Tell us why we shouldn't believe that the U.S.A. should be rated 37th for Healthcare. 

We're all ears.

You, and the other Progressives, have been shown the FACTS many times over.  They do not play into your agenda, who you continue to post garbage.  

Tell us what are the criteria used to evaluate countries, who provides that information?  

What is the date of that "study" and why was it stopped?
You've made the same arguments several times and have been shot down in shame each time.  too bad you haven't the backbone to admit failure.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:

You, and the other Progressives, have been shown the FACTS many times over.  They do not play into your agenda, who you continue to post garbage.  

Tell us what are the criteria used to evaluate countries, who provides that information?  

What is the date of that "study" and why was it stopped?
You've made the same arguments several times and have been shot down in shame each time.  too bad you haven't the backbone to admit failure.

And you never have the internal fortitude to post what you have been taught.  Not surprised.  Again, so you don't have to search.

Tell us what are the criteria used to evaluate countries, who provides that information?  Oh, and how many of those criteria apply to health care?

What is the date of that "study" and why was it stopped?

Come on Wordslinger, no guts, no glory!

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