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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4276276,00.html

Well, Hussein has pulled back the true covers on his support for Muslims over Israel.


Genesis 12:3 now comes to mind.


Genesis 12:3

New International Version (NIV)



3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”




You have to wonder how many slaps to the face God will take from America under the leadership of Obama to start judging our nation and very harshly. Harry Truman, the first world leader to recongnize Israel as a nation, must be rolling over in his grave.

Maybe God will give us one more chance and see if we vote out this despot in November before he makes a judgment on the USA?

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It's on The Blaze as well. The only thing this nation can hope for is to vote Obama out and repent for putting unGodly leaders in office.

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's on The Blaze as well. The only thing this nation can hope for is to vote Obama out and repent for putting unGodly leaders in office.

You are one sick puppy. I am not an Obama supporter but in this case I fully believe that he has done the right thing. Why put our young men and women in harms way just to settle a dispute that Israel has with Iran. That would be completely senseless and stupid.

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's on The Blaze as well. The only thing this nation can hope for is to vote Obama out and repent for putting unGodly leaders in office.

You are one sick puppy. I am not an Obama supporter but in this case I fully believe that he has done the right thing. Why put our young men and women in harms way just to settle a dispute that Israel has with Iran. That would be completely senseless and stupid.

We don't have to put our folks in harm's way. I've been to almost every base over there since 2001. Iran will blame us regardless. All Israel is asking for is support in the UN once it goes down. They will do the heavy lifting- the attacks themselves. All we have to be is a bobblehead doll and nod YES. Name one time in history that we have helped Israel and they have asked for US troop support? Not once. In 1948, nope- just material support. In 1967? Nope, just more material support. In 1973? Nope, just bombs and bullets. In the multiple times Israel has had to defend itself from Hamas in the South or Hezbollah in the North? Not once.

How about in 1980 when Israel took out the Iraqi reactor? Nope. They did it all themselves. 2006 when they took out the Syrian reactor? Nope, in and out before the world knew that the reactor was anything but a smoking hole in the ground.

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's on The Blaze as well. The only thing this nation can hope for is to vote Obama out and repent for putting unGodly leaders in office.

You are one sick puppy. I am not an Obama supporter but in this case I fully believe that he has done the right thing. Why put our young men and women in harms way just to settle a dispute that Israel has with Iran. That would be completely senseless and stupid.

You have to understand that Pacedoggy has personal religious and political beliefs that get in the way of any logical thinking on the issue of Iran and Israel. You can see this in his post, where he suggests Democratic voters need to repent for helping elect an "ungodly" leader like President Obama. A logical person would never say something stupid like that.

I suppose Pacedoggy believes Mitt Romney is a "godly" candidate who will rescue this nation from the grips of ungodliness if he can be elected...... Even though Mormonism is far, far away from the mainstream Christianity Pacedoggy says his beliefs lay. The Mormon faith is wierd, to say the least....



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Ghost_Rider1 wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's on The Blaze as well. The only thing this nation can hope for is to vote Obama out and repent for putting unGodly leaders in office.

You are one sick puppy. I am not an Obama supporter but in this case I fully believe that he has done the right thing. Why put our young men and women in harms way just to settle a dispute that Israel has with Iran. That would be completely senseless and stupid.

You have to understand that Pacedoggy has personal religious and political beliefs that get in the way of any logical thinking on the issue of Iran and Israel. You can see this in his post, where he suggests Democratic voters need to repent for helping elect an "ungodly" leader like President Obama. A logical person would never say something stupid like that.

I suppose Pacedoggy believes Mitt Romney is a "godly" candidate who will rescue this nation from the grips of ungodliness if he can be elected...... Even thought Mormonism is far, far away from the mainstream Christianity Pacedoggy says his beliefs lay. The Mormon faith is wierd, to say the least....

I suppose Bush was a "godly" candidate. It did seem that way, as he always had a scriptural quote on his daily war report. This kind of irony really can't be made up.

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Ghost_Rider1 wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's on The Blaze as well. The only thing this nation can hope for is to vote Obama out and repent for putting unGodly leaders in office.

You are one sick puppy. I am not an Obama supporter but in this case I fully believe that he has done the right thing. Why put our young men and women in harms way just to settle a dispute that Israel has with Iran. That would be completely senseless and stupid.

We don't have to put our folks in harm's way. I've been to almost every base over there since 2001. Iran will blame us regardless. All Israel is asking for is support in the UN once it goes down. They will do the heavy lifting- the attacks themselves. All we have to be is a bobblehead doll and nod YES. Name one time in history that we have helped Israel and they have asked for US troop support? Not once. In 1948, nope- just material support. In 1967? Nope, just more material support. In 1973? Nope, just bombs and bullets. In the multiple times Israel has had to defend itself from Hamas in the South or Hezbollah in the North? Not once.

How about in 1980 when Israel took out the Iraqi reactor? Nope. They did it all themselves. 2006 when they took out the Syrian reactor? Nope, in and out before the world knew that the reactor was anything but a smoking hole in the ground.

Regardless of whether Israel does it themselves is irrelevant. You basically said so yourself in that Iran is going to blame the US regardless and when they do, the retaliation will be directed toward us as well as the Israelis, thus putting our young men and women into harm's way needlessly and stupidly.

But, please by all means keep up your war mongering rhetoric and attempting to spread fear by using your Bible to justify our support of Israel.




http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Summary


This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past
aid programs, data on annual assistance, and an analysis of current issues. For general
information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim
Zanotti.
Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date,
the United States has provided Israel $115 billion in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral
aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received
significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel
receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for example, Israel can use some U.S.
military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military
purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, all U.S. assistance earmarked for Israel is
delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year, while most other recipients normally receive aid in
installments. In addition to receiving U.S. State Department-administered foreign assistance,
Israel also receives funds from annual defense appropriations bills for joint U.S.-Israeli missile
defense programs.
In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion
military aid package that gradually will raise Israel’s annual Foreign Military Financing grant
from a baseline of nearly $2.55 billion in FY2009 to approximately $3.1 billion for FY2013
through FY2018. For FY2013, the Obama Administration is requesting $3.1 billion in FMF to
Israel.
In the second session of the 112th Congress, in addition to the normal foreign operations
appropriations process, lawmakers may address: Administration or Israeli requests for additional
defense appropriations for joint U.S.-Israeli missile defense; an extension of U.S. loan guarantees
to Israel beyond FY2012 when they are set to expire; and new funding for joint U.S.-Israeli
scientific research.
The Obama Administration’s FY2013 request includes $3.1 billion in Foreign Military Financing
for Israel and $15 million for refugee resettlement. Within the U.S. Department of Defense, the
U.S. Missile Defense Agency’s FY2013 budget request includes $99.8 million in joint U.S.-
Israeli co-development for missile defense.
On March 5, 2012, House lawmakers introduced H.R. 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced
Security Cooperation Act of 2012. If passed, this bill would, among other things, allocate
additional weaponry and munitions for the forward-deployed United States stockpile in Israel;
provide Israel additional surplus defense articles and defense services, as appropriate, in the wake
of the withdrawal of United States forces from Iraq; expand Israel's authority to make purchases
under the Foreign Military Financing program on a commercial basis; encourage an expanded
role for Israel within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including an enhanced
presence at NATO headquarters and exercises; support extension of the long-standing loan
guarantee program for Israel, recognizing Israel's unbroken record of repaying its loans on time
and in full; and require the President to submit a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military
edge in light of current trends and instability in the region.

(See full report for details)

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http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Summary


This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past
aid programs, data on annual assistance, and an analysis of current issues. For general
information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim
Zanotti.
Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date,
the United States has provided Israel $115 billion in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral
aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received
significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel
receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for example, Israel can use some U.S.
military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military
purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, all U.S. assistance earmarked for Israel is
delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year, while most other recipients normally receive aid in
installments. In addition to receiving U.S. State Department-administered foreign assistance,
Israel also receives funds from annual defense appropriations bills for joint U.S.-Israeli missile
defense programs.
In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion
military aid package that gradually will raise Israel’s annual Foreign Military Financing grant
from a baseline of nearly $2.55 billion in FY2009 to approximately $3.1 billion for FY2013
through FY2018. For FY2013, the Obama Administration is requesting $3.1 billion in FMF to
Israel.
In the second session of the 112th Congress, in addition to the normal foreign operations
appropriations process, lawmakers may address: Administration or Israeli requests for additional
defense appropriations for joint U.S.-Israeli missile defense; an extension of U.S. loan guarantees
to Israel beyond FY2012 when they are set to expire; and new funding for joint U.S.-Israeli
scientific research.
The Obama Administration’s FY2013 request includes $3.1 billion in Foreign Military Financing
for Israel and $15 million for refugee resettlement. Within the U.S. Department of Defense, the
U.S. Missile Defense Agency’s FY2013 budget request includes $99.8 million in joint U.S.-
Israeli co-development for missile defense.
On March 5, 2012, House lawmakers introduced H.R. 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced
Security Cooperation Act of 2012. If passed, this bill would, among other things, allocate
additional weaponry and munitions for the forward-deployed United States stockpile in Israel;
provide Israel additional surplus defense articles and defense services, as appropriate, in the wake
of the withdrawal of United States forces from Iraq; expand Israel's authority to make purchases
under the Foreign Military Financing program on a commercial basis; encourage an expanded
role for Israel within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including an enhanced
presence at NATO headquarters and exercises; support extension of the long-standing loan
guarantee program for Israel, recognizing Israel's unbroken record of repaying its loans on time
and in full; and require the President to submit a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military
edge in light of current trends and instability in the region.

(See full report for details)

Not only, we give the Israelis access to the most sensitive U.S. military equipment. Israel then copies and steals the technology within and sells this to our enemies. To wit, back in the 80s, we paid for Israel's indigenously developed IAI Lavi fighter jet prototype, which the Israeli government eventually cancelled. They then sold the plans to the Red Chinese, who developed the jet into their own Chengdu J-10 fighter jet. I bet Pacedoggy had no problems with this.

Should Israel attack Iran, Iran will shut-down the Straits of Hormuz. Oil will skyrocket to $200 per barrel or perhaps higher. I guess Pacedoggy doesn't mind paying more for gasoline, just so long as Israel's agenda is supported.
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As usual, ZVUGLUM is uninformed and lacking any idea whatsoever.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/uae-starts-pipeline-bypass-strait-hormuz

With this pipeline, the Strait of Hormuz can become blocked and it will not matter. Oil barely jumps because it will continue to flow. Clueless as usual ZVUGUMUM. Aside from that the US Navy has no plans to let the striat become blocked. I know that is what you wish for in your demented mind.

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Floridatexan wrote:


http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Summary


This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past
aid programs, data on annual assistance, and an analysis of current issues. For general
information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim
Zanotti.
Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date,
the United States has provided Israel $115 billion in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral
aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received
significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel
receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for example, Israel can use some U.S.
military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military
purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, all U.S. assistance earmarked for Israel is
delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year, while most other recipients normally receive aid in
installments. In addition to receiving U.S. State Department-administered foreign assistance,
Israel also receives funds from annual defense appropriations bills for joint U.S.-Israeli missile
defense programs.
In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion
military aid package that gradually will raise Israel’s annual Foreign Military Financing grant
from a baseline of nearly $2.55 billion in FY2009 to approximately $3.1 billion for FY2013
through FY2018. For FY2013, the Obama Administration is requesting $3.1 billion in FMF to
Israel.
In the second session of the 112th Congress, in addition to the normal foreign operations
appropriations process, lawmakers may address: Administration or Israeli requests for additional
defense appropriations for joint U.S.-Israeli missile defense; an extension of U.S. loan guarantees
to Israel beyond FY2012 when they are set to expire; and new funding for joint U.S.-Israeli
scientific research.
The Obama Administration’s FY2013 request includes $3.1 billion in Foreign Military Financing
for Israel and $15 million for refugee resettlement. Within the U.S. Department of Defense, the
U.S. Missile Defense Agency’s FY2013 budget request includes $99.8 million in joint U.S.-
Israeli co-development for missile defense.
On March 5, 2012, House lawmakers introduced H.R. 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced
Security Cooperation Act of 2012. If passed, this bill would, among other things, allocate
additional weaponry and munitions for the forward-deployed United States stockpile in Israel;
provide Israel additional surplus defense articles and defense services, as appropriate, in the wake
of the withdrawal of United States forces from Iraq; expand Israel's authority to make purchases
under the Foreign Military Financing program on a commercial basis; encourage an expanded
role for Israel within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including an enhanced
presence at NATO headquarters and exercises; support extension of the long-standing loan
guarantee program for Israel, recognizing Israel's unbroken record of repaying its loans on time
and in full; and require the President to submit a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military
edge in light of current trends and instability in the region.

(See full report for details)

Not only, we give the Israelis access to the most sensitive U.S. military equipment. Israel then copies and steals the technology within and sells this to our enemies. To wit, back in the 80s, we paid for Israel's indigenously developed IAI Lavi fighter jet prototype, which the Israeli government eventually cancelled. They then sold the plans to the Red Chinese, who developed the jet into their own Chengdu J-10 fighter jet. I bet Pacedoggy had no problems with this.

Should Israel attack Iran, Iran will shut-down the Straits of Hormuz. Oil will skyrocket to $200 per barrel or perhaps higher. I guess Pacedoggy doesn't mind paying more for gasoline, just so long as Israel's agenda is supported.
Rolling Eyes

You forgot to mention the transfer of missile technology under Bill Clinton. Remember, Al Gore meeting Nuns from China with grocery bags full of cash? If not, read more, you being such a great reader.

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