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Grady Hospital in ATLANTA, Obamacare will cause them a 45 MILLION DOLLAR deficit

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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/new-health-care-law-leaves-grady-45-million-short/nbCp8/

Such terrible news for a hospital that serves the poor in the Atlanta area. This Obamacare thing...such a good deal.Rolling Eyes 

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More false reporting. The Gov. caused the shortfall by not expanding medicaid. Not Obamacare.

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No, it's true. Why would a governor toss his state into something it could not afford?

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Someone has to pay for expanding Medicaid. Gov deal knew that would fall in the taxpayers. So, obamacare is nothing but an unfounded mandate by the Feds.

Dreamsglore wrote:More false reporting. The Gov. caused the shortfall by not expanding medicaid. Not Obamacare.
PLEASE, share with us where the $43 MILLION was supposed to come from this time?  More from the STASH of President Barack Hussein Obama?

http://www.youtube.com/v/19v5Kjmc8FI



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Dreamsglore wrote:More false reporting. The Gov. caused the shortfall by not expanding medicaid. Not Obamacare.
you don't understand the cuts, just like the other commies here don't.

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Dreamsglore wrote:More false reporting. The Gov. caused the shortfall by not expanding medicaid. Not Obamacare.
you don't understand the cuts, just like the other commies here don't.

I do, because I was the assistant to the administrator of a charity hospital in Houston the 1970's, and I was involved in preparing the budgets she presented to the county commission...the proper term here is "begging", because that's exactly what she did.

"... the U.S. Supreme Court left Medicaid expansion up to the states and Gov. Nathan Deal decided Georgia could not afford it..."

PRIORITIES.

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Wonder if Obama had not cut Medicare funds to pour into obamacare, if they would still be 45 mil
Short?

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See when people like zvug and sal say thst the GOP will lose and lose big in 2014. I laugh because the end is 2913 and all of 2014 is gonna be fresh in people's minds in how obamacare and the Dems screwed the people.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Wonder if Obama had not cut Medicare funds to pour into obamacare, if they would still be 45 mil
Short?
The "facts" you are using to base your opinion on are false.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/15/stephanie-cutter/ryans-plan-includes-700-billion-medicare-cuts-says/

Mitt Romney’s pick of U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate has rekindled a heated debate over Medicare.

Ryan, R-Wis., is the head of the Budget Committee in the U.S. House of Representatives and the architect of a plan to dramatically restructure Medicare.

Today, Medicare operates as a government-run health insurance plan for Americans over age 65.

Ryan’s idea is to eventually move Medicare toward private insurance companies by giving people a set amount to buy their own health insurance plans. The new system would be for people who are under age 55 now, and it would give them voucher-like credits to buy traditional fee-for-service Medicare or competing private insurance plans. (The credits are sometimes called "premium support.")

Though House Republicans voted overwhelmingly for Ryan’s plan, polling shows public opinion is mixed, with older voters the most wary of the plan.

The Republican response to attacks on the Ryan plan has been to attack back, saying President Barack Obama has cut "$700 billion" out of Medicare. And the Democratic response to that: Well, Paul Ryan cuts that amount, too!

For this check, we’re looking specifically at what Obama campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said on Face the Nation when debating Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom.

"You know, I heard Mitt Romney deride the $700 billion cuts in Medicare that the president achieved through health care reform," Cutter said. "You know what those cuts are? It’s taking subsidies away from insurance companies, taking rebates away from prescription drug company. Is that what Mitt Romney wants to protect? And interestingly enough Paul Ryan protected those cuts in his budget."

It’s a lot to digest if you’re not already a Medicare policy wonk, so let us sort it out for you. For now, we are going to put aside the question of whether it is accurate to call them "cuts" -- a claim we're checking in another item -- and focus on the question of whether Cutter is correct that Ryan relies on those same reductions in his budget.

$700 billion in Medicare cuts?

Because we’re wonks ourselves at PolitiFact, our ears pricked up at the claim in recent days that Obama cut $700 billion out of Medicare. Just a few weeks ago, the oft-cited number was $500 billion. How did he manage to cut another $200 billion when no one was looking?

Well, there are cuts and then there are CUTS. Neither Obama nor his health care law literally "cut" a dollar from the Medicare program’s budget.

Rather, the health care law instituted a number of changes to reduce the growth of Medicare costs. At the time the law was passed, those reductions amounted to $500 billion over the next 10 years.

What kind of spending reductions are we talking about? They were mainly aimed at insurance companies and hospitals, not beneficiaries. The law makes significant reductions to Medicare Advantage, a subset of Medicare plans run by private insurers. Medicare Advantage was started under President George W. Bush, and the idea was that competition among the private insurers would reduce costs. But in recent years the plans have actually cost more than traditional Medicare. So the health care law scales back the payments to private insurers.

In effect, the private sector was piggybacking on Medicare. Agents made huge commissions for enrolling people in the plans. And the major benefits reaped from these plans went to insurance companies and their employees.

Hospitals, too, will be paid less if they have too many re-admissions, or if they fail to meet other new benchmarks for patient care.

Still, the overall Medicare budget is projected to go up for the foreseeable future. The health care law tries to limit that growth, making it less than it would have been without the law, but not reducing its overall budget. So claims that Obama would "cut" Medicare need more explanation to be fully accurate. In the past, we’ve rated similar statements Half True or Mostly False, depending on the wording and context.

Because Medicare spending gets bigger every year, the cost-saving mechanisms in the health care law also get bigger. Also, it takes a few years for the health care law’s savings mechanisms to kick in. In fact, the effects of time are the main reason the $500 billion number has turned into $700 billion.

The CBO determined in 2011 that the federal health care law would reduce Medicare outlays by $507 billion between 2012 and 2021. In a more recent estimate released this year, the CBO looked at the years 2013 to 2022 and determined the health care law affected Medicare outlays by $716 billion.

So it’s timing that’s making the "cuts" bigger, not changes to Medicare...

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Cuts are now to be called savings... thank you for your cooperation comrade.

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Obama=America destroyer

I know this... He will not be the potus signing my retirement certificate.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Obama=America destroyer

I know this... He will not be the potus signing my retirement certificate.
Haters gonna hate........

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PkrBum wrote:Cuts are now to be called savings... thank you for your cooperation comrade.
No problem, Herr Kamerad.

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